Bad Gamer: i5 2400 vs i5 2500k vs i5

[fpolac0198]

Hello, some of you may remember may (ha, doubt it).

Anyway, I'll go with a Z77 motherboard, most likely the MSI Z77A-G43, thanks to the pwnage-user ncc74656, but I am unsure of what processor to get.

Previous Build
PSU: Thermaltake - 750W TR2 RX (I believe)
MOBO: Biostar N68SA-M2S (N68S+)
CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 240
GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5770 - 1GB XFX
RAM: 2x - 1GB Crucial Ballistix 1066Mhz DDR2 Memory (2GB total)

I haven't overclocked before and I am most likely going to just use the stock heatsink. I want this build to last, that is, just the processor. While the over-clockable processor will obviously last me longer if I overclock, but I don't even want to at this point.

Anyway, so a i5 2400 or a i5 2500k, stock heatsink, of course!


Also, the i5 3450 is an option, as the price is in between the i5 2500k. :3 thanks lmao

 

[FinneousPJ]

IMO 3450 if no OC.

 

[amuffin]

Well, if you are going to upgrade.

GET RID OF THE THERMAL TAKE POWER SUPPLY.

 

[fpolac0198]

Well, if you are going to upgrade.

GET RID OF THE THERMAL TAKE POWER SUPPLY.

Well my current processor is broken (semi-broken) so upgrading my processor is a priority

 

[IntelEnthusiast]

I would go with the Intel® Core™ i5-2500K and in a year overclock it. Overclocking these modern unlocked processors is really simple and you we be amazed at how much extra performance you can get from this processor.

 

[Anonymous_26]

How is your CPU semi broken, CPU's are probably the most reliable piece of hardware in a computer. Usually it either works or it doesn't. Also I wouldn't overclock with the stock heatsink even a small overlock. The stock heatsink is good enough for dissipating heat from normal operation but it can't handle the extra heat caused by overclocking, even a small overclock.

 

[fpolac0198]

How is your CPU semi broken, CPU's are probably the most reliable piece of hardware in a computer. Usually it either works or it doesn't. Also I wouldn't overclock with the stock heatsink even a small overlock. The stock heatsink is good enough for dissipating heat from normal operation but it can't handle the extra heat caused by overclocking, even a small overclock.

It is quite old and something inside of it is malfunctioning that is making it run much hotter than usual, even with a new heatsink.

 

[BlizzardGamer]

I'd go with intel i7 3770k because it supports pci-e 3.0, and has integrated graphics too, just like i5 2500k has

 

[nikorr]

2500K - That's the deal.

 

[fpolac0198]

I'd go with intel i7 3770k because it supports pci-e 3.0, and has integrated graphics too, just like i5 2500k has

Throughout this thread I've stated nothing about i7's nor caring about integrated graphics. Also, if having PCI-E 3.0 support matters a lot, which I'm guessing it should, shouldn't I go for the i5 3450 or will it make almost no difference when upgrading to a PCI-E 3.0 later on?

OK but have you settled on that motherboard you listed.?

Of course not. I'm not settled on anything indefinitely until it is actually bought =)

 

[amuffin]

Not a good board....

 

[amuffin]

I'd go with intel i7 3770k because it supports pci-e 3.0, and has integrated graphics too, just like i5 2500k has

So does the i5-2500k.

 

[FinneousPJ]

2500K does not support PCIE3.

 

[nikorr]

I think amuffin meant integrated graphics.

PCIE 3.0 means not much today, yet.

 

[nikorr]

Biostar N68SA-M2S is the weak link.

 

[amuffin]

Didn't specify that

Anyways, with the PCIE 3.0 crap. If the highest end cards can't even saturate the pcie 2.0 slot, what does that make of PCIE 3.0? Well, we don't have fast enough cards that can really take advantage of it, plus there's barely any difference between the two slots.

 

[fpolac0198]

I think amuffin meant integrated graphics.

PCIE 3.0 means not much today, yet.

But I'd like this build to last.

With that said, should I go for the i5 3450 instead?


Also, what is wrong with the previous motherboard? Shouldn't I get a Z77 board? Plus I'm quite a fan of MSI, and I haven't heard of masses of people complaining about them, so it couldn't be the brand either. What motherboard should I get, then?

 

[amuffin]

The PCIE 3.0 isn't on the processor, but it's on the motherboard

 

[amuffin]

I'd get an ASrock Z77 board.

 

[Guest]

i would go with i5-3570k, $10 more and it has native support for usb 3.0 and pcie 3.0, $10 for a more future proof and faster machine.

depending on what size you you want to go with [atx, micro atx, or itx]

these are some pretty decent atx boards

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

micro atx

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303

itx

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157312

im not partial to asrock but they tend to have the best bang for the buck and the most connectivity at their price range.

i would get a z77 board if you can, other wise a z68 rev3 board will work just as well. its always worth it to invest $10 more to get something more future proof even if the said technology cannot be completely harnessed yet [referencing pcie 3.0]

i know you went 2 gigs of memory on you last build but id say go 8gig [2x 4gigs matched] as its the best bet for i5, if you were going i3 id say get 4gigs and get 8 if you can. ddr3 ram is dirt cheap right now, you can get value ram for about $40

ram

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

 

[Guest]

i5-2500k is an awesome processor, i have one in my gaming rig, i have yet to be in a situation were i actually need more power but id say go i5-3570k if you can. make sure you get a better heat sink, it doesnt cost much for get a decent air cooler like a hyper 212 but your cpu will thank you for not using the stock intel cooler, stock intel coolers belong in the rubbish bin

 

[billybobser]

an unlocked cpu would also be worth more on the second hand market when you come to upgrade in the future

 

[fpolac0198]

Alright, so ignoring the price, say they were the same price (though they aren't, but seeing as they're in the $200-range, $10 won't make a difference to me), so the i5 3750k is the better way to go? I'm looking for which one will last me longer, not which one will be the best right away.

And as I previously stated, I will not overclock until I start to need/want it, so I'm not going to overclock right away with anything. Not only that, but I am going to start off with a stock heatsink and I will get a better one, but only when it is time to overclock. With that said, it'll give me another reason to not want to overclock right away.

Also, I've always been told that overclocking, over time, will hinder the life and performance of my processor over time.