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March 28, 2012 9:17:50 AM

Hi Guys,


Approximate Purchase Date: 2 Weeks

Budget Range: £2000-£2400

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Movies, Office Work, Internet

Parts Not Required: Keyboard/Mouse/Speakers/Montior

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: No preference

Country: United Kingdom

Parts Preferences: No preference

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Looking for advice on replacement/ better value for performance parts.


I currently have a build that I'm looking at purchasing very soon and I am just looking for an critisim or thoughts on how to improve the build based and "futureproof" it more.

Case - Cosmos 2 - £309
MoBo - Asus Rampage 4 Extreme - £320
CPU - I7 3930k - £452
CPU Cooler - Corsair H100 - £85
Memory - GSkill Ripjawz Z Series 16GB - £80
GPU - EVGA GTX 680 - £430
PSU - Corsair TX850 - £100
HDD - WD 1TB Caviar Black - £100
SSD - Samsung 830 64GB - £83
Sound - Creative Labs X-FT Titanium with I/O Drive - £137
OS - Win7 Pro 64bit OEM - £100
Optical - Samsung 12x BR Reader + Lightscribe Software - £60


I apologise for not having the links to the part I specified but it was more so a word document I have been updating for the past couple of months or so and the parts kept changing.

Kind Regards,

Grant.



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March 28, 2012 9:25:44 AM

Rahhh - EDIT SHORTLY ;) 
March 28, 2012 9:39:11 AM

i5-2500k or i7-2600k (if its really necessary....) £163 / £223
ASRock Extreme7 GEN3 £227
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-z68-extreme7-gen3...(x16)-d-sub-dp-hdmi-dvi-
EVGA GTX 680 x2 £430 + £430 = £860
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-evga-gtx-680-28nm-pc...
WD Caviar Black £100
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-western-digital-wd10...
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit £106
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/microsoft-windows-7-prof...
XFX 850W PRO XXX £107 (80PLUS Silver and Modular)
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/850w-xfx-xxx-p1-850b-ukb...
Samsung 830 Series SSD 128GB £150
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/128gb-samsung-830-series...
Samsung 12x BR Reader + Lightscribe Software - £60
Corsair H100 - £85
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-h100-hydro-serie...
8GB Corsair Dominator 1866MHz - £83
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-dominator-gt-ddr3-pc3-14900(1866)-nonecc-unbuffered9-10-9-27-dhx-xmp-150v

£2001 total

No need for sound card, can still fit Cosmos 2 into budget if its really "necessary".

i5/i7 shouldn't bottleneck the SLI 680's and you'll get much better performance from SLI 680's then a single 680 with an over-priced CPU ;) 
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March 28, 2012 9:53:53 AM

The Idea was to go X79 to help futureproof it somewhat, and surely going for 2500k/2600k now with the newer Ivy-Bridge stuff expected within the next few weeks sounds like a backwards move also?

I was always going to get a second 680 it's just not fully required at the mo until I sort out the space for a better monitor setup :p 

My big debate is between getting a Cosmos 2 or a Storm Trooper case (both which you know I like very much)

Also...Big need for soundcard so I can properly abuse the Razer Tiamat 7 headset with a possible surround system I want to put in aswell.

Any thoughts on this?
March 28, 2012 11:29:44 AM

X79 to me has always just been an overpriced chip-set and never really displayed any benefits when it comes to gaming.

Socket 1155 is still very much up and alive and Ivybridge CPU's will be compatible. The smart move would probably be to wait a little while until they have been released and benched and see what's what.

While the 3930K is no doubt a good CPU, it's not going to perform any better than the 2500k/2600k in the area you want it to - gaming. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3930k-3820-...

If the IvyBridge Socket 1155 CPU's are any better than the current SandyBridge, then you'll get more performance from one of those, at a much lesser price than the Socket 2011 stuff.

Cosmos 2 is always going to be my shout, can't stand the stormtrooper!

Maybe this sound card: Reviews put them about neck and neck
http://www.ebuyer.com/141346-asus-xonar-d2x-soundcard-7...
March 28, 2012 12:33:59 PM

So If i stuck with Socket 1155 - wouldn't the Z77 Boards be a better choice to look for to better compensate the newer IB chips? I know the difference between Z68 and Z77 are only minor but it just seems logically the next step in progression?
March 28, 2012 12:38:38 PM

I'd go with the cosmos. Your list is fine but I too am partial to the 2500k. If you can't wait for the new stuff that's the way I'd go. Good luck with your build.
March 28, 2012 12:51:07 PM

grantwooduk said:
So If i stuck with Socket 1155 - wouldn't the Z77 Boards be a better choice to look for to better compensate the newer IB chips? I know the difference between Z68 and Z77 are only minor but it just seems logically the next step in progression?

The Z77 board would be fine. It offers a bit more when it comes to overclocking (12+4 phases vs 4+2 power phases) as you're going to do.
March 28, 2012 1:02:11 PM

My real debate at the moment is between building the one I listed above putting me around the £2400 budget bracket, or I just stick with pure current gaming market builds which would not take me over the £1400 mark. It just seemed more future proof and ebtter moving forward to go for the newer X79 stuff giving what it has to offer overall.
March 28, 2012 1:08:53 PM

It's your build. You are going to have to live with it. Do what makes sense to you. While I or AdrianPerry wouldn't go with the x79 that doesn't mean that you can't. These are only our opinions after all. Time will tell (so to speak). If the x79 will make you happy - that's all that counts.
March 28, 2012 1:38:40 PM

As Chaz said, I wouldn't personally pay extra for the X79 set up as it would give me no extra benefits for what I use the system for :( 

2500k + 680 + 8GB 1600MHz RAM + Z68 is going to provide exactly the same gaming performance as 3930k + 680 + 16GB 1866MHz RAM + X79 and the first option is going to be around 1/3 of the price.

Internet browsing, office apps and movie watching are also not seeing any benefit from an X79 set up.

Current hardware (namely 2500k/2600k) has proved itself time and time again as absolute rock solid performance with so much over-clock potential and zero bottlenecking of graphics cards it just doesn't make sense to shell out anymore money.

You could probably buy an i5-2500k and a Z68 at present and then swap both the CPU and motherboard (if even necessary) for something newer in a year or 2, at more than likely still lower cost than buying an X79 and 3930k now.
March 28, 2012 1:41:15 PM

grantwooduk said:
My real debate at the moment is between building the one I listed above putting me around the £2400 budget bracket, or I just stick with pure current gaming market builds which would not take me over the £1400 mark. It just seemed more future proof and ebtter moving forward to go for the newer X79 stuff giving what it has to offer overall.


Here's how you can decide. In 6months when Ivy Bridge-E comes out for x79 ask yourself. Will you be willing to drop another $500-700 on a cpu? If your answer is yes go with x79. If your answer is no go with 1155 z77 Ivy Bridge or z77 and i5 2500k (personally I see the upgrade worth more then the upgrade in the cpu at this point). The gains are marginal from i5 2500k (overclocks better than IB) to Ivy Bridge and most of the time the z77 board makes the difference.

Here's my explanation:

x79 has 1 more cpu gen left. If you do not upgrade then you might as well save your money because the price/performance ratio of x79 is not worth it.

1155 Has z77 boards and Ivy Bridge. This is the last gen cpu for this socket. Haswell will be out in a year or 2. This performance will last you just fine until then if you do not have money to upgrade if you go the x79 route. Because you won't be able to upgrade until haswell this route so you do not have to worry about it, and imo you will only be loosing out on marginal performance/ a lot of cash.

Remember x79 is also for heavy duty tasks like rendering, and large files (the ram), and design work. For example auto cad etc. I see you said movies but I assume thats watching them? not making them.

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I would definitely go for a bigger ssd...128 at minimum but 256 would be good, specially on your budget.
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