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Computer is starting to not handle games/run well. Someone help?

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March 28, 2012 11:23:34 PM

Okay, so I got Battlefield 3 and the Multilayer is literally unplayable. Now, I don't have the best system, but I was expecting to be able to play the game at least low with some medium. I just tried and I can't even play the game on ALL low at 1280 × 1024 (my native is 1920 x 1080). I get like 15-25 fps with spikes that make the game unplayable. What the hell is that? The longer I play, the worse it gets by the way. Maybe its a heat issue?

Now I'm not even comparing the two graphics wise, but I can literally max MW3 (I know three year old engine). I know battlefield looks better (at max) and is much more resource intensive, but this is ridiculous. How is that possible?

I just spent the time overclocking my CPU from 2.4 to 3.0 and noticed no increase in performance.

I've noticed slowing in other games as well. Games I used to play at higher settings I now have to lower the settings or they will lag - like network lag spikes would be but I can tell it's system lag, very strange. A friend of mine has a system that is equal, if not worse than my system and I watch him play BF3 multiplayer in a 64 player match on med low with zero lag.

I was referred to this site by a friend, and by the looks of things you guys all know what you're talking about. I appreciate your time and I hope someone will be able to help me out.

If its a straight case of my rig is getting old, and that's what you genuinely think, I'll just plan on buying a new GPU then.


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DxDiag Info
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System Information
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Time of this report: 3/27/2012, 19:57:36
Operating System: Windows Vista 64 bit™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.110617-0336)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: EP45-DS3L

BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 3326MB RAM ----I should have 4 gigs. Strange.----

Page File: 2685MB used, 4176MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4850 512mb
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9442)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9442&SUBSYS_E810174B&REV_00
Display Memory: 1913 MB
Dedicated Memory: 505 MB
Shared Memory: 1407 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver Version: 8.17.0010.1119 (English)
DDI Version: 10.1
BGRA Supported: Yes
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/14/2012 21:17:04, 957952 bytes
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_1458A002&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5618 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail

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Also, my RAM is registered at 3.3 gigs, but I have vista 64 bit installed and 4 gigs in my rig.
So, I thought maybe one was shot, took each out and tested them; both showed up as 2gigs.
However, in "CPUz" it registers 4 gigs, "Welcome Center" reconizes 4gigs, but "DxDiag" only sees 3326. Odd.
March 28, 2012 11:38:00 PM

I would definitely consider an upgrade to your GPU, and an overclock on your cpu. Something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is a cost effective option if you do not have need the highest available graphics settings. If not, consider the Nvidea 570, 580, 680, or the AMD 7000 series.

On your RAM issue, make sure there are no "Max Memory" options selected in your bios. I'm guessing you upgraded from a 32 bit os to the 64 bit windows 7 at some point?
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March 29, 2012 12:33:11 AM

What are your temperatures? Run HWMonitor and then play BF3 for a bit (10 min should be plenty), then look at the Max.

If the 4850 has to throttle itself due to heat then its performance is going to go down the drain, otherwise it should definitely be able to handle BF3 at least at low.
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March 29, 2012 12:35:28 AM

I was just rereading your post and since you state you've already done some overclocking and saw no improvements, it points towards your GPU as your wink link. An upgrade to that would definitely show an improvement in your gaming, especially with newer titles.
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March 29, 2012 12:56:24 AM

Well the 4850 has 512MB of RAM, I think that is a major issue. Considering you have 4GB of RAM in total and if the video card is sharing 1.5GB of that, then your system (Vista uses around 1.5GB) and BF3 will take up around 1GB.... I think the best option would be a video card with at least 1.5GB of VRAM.

I can't comment on the Q6600 but it is an old cpu and BF3 is very cpu intensive in multiplayer. I think you will need a bigger overclock, maybe to 3.4 if you can manage it. A new CPU, Mobo, RAM and video card will solve all your issues though :) 
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March 29, 2012 1:05:54 AM

pezonator said:
Well the 4850 has 512MB of RAM, I think that is a major issue. Considering you have 4GB of RAM in total and if the video card is sharing 1.5GB of that, then your system (Vista uses around 1.5GB) and BF3 will take up around 1GB.... I think the best option would be a video card with at least 1.5GB of VRAM.

I can't comment on the Q6600 but it is an old cpu and BF3 is very cpu intensive in multiplayer. I think you will need a bigger overclock, maybe to 3.4 if you can manage it. A new CPU, Mobo, RAM and video card will solve all your issues though :) 



You have no idea what you are talking about.

The video card sharing RAM part seems to refer to a 32-bit OS's 4GB RAM address limit, but OP has a 64-bit OS and in that case a GPU with more RAM will compound the problem since VRAM is addressed first.

Vista also uses RAM and not VRAM.
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March 29, 2012 1:17:05 AM

Display Memory: 1913 MB
Dedicated Memory: 505 MB
*Shared Memory: 1407 MB*

How can you not see that?

I've seen screen shots of BF3 using 1GB of system RAM. I've had Windows Vista and seen it use 1.5GB of system RAM and I know what Shared Memory is... That's when system RAM is used by the video card. It's pretty basic stuff, been doing it for years mate :) 

Maybe I worded it wrong...
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April 2, 2012 8:52:38 PM

pezonator said:
Display Memory: 1913 MB
Dedicated Memory: 505 MB
*Shared Memory: 1407 MB*

How can you not see that?

I've seen screen shots of BF3 using 1GB of system RAM. I've had Windows Vista and seen it use 1.5GB of system RAM and I know what Shared Memory is... That's when system RAM is used by the video card. It's pretty basic stuff, been doing it for years mate :) 

Maybe I worded it wrong...


So, would more RAM do anything for me? Like if I moved up to 8 gigs?
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