User Accounts

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I have asked this queston several times, but no answers yet. I have three
User Accounts shown in the CP > User Accounts. My account is shown as (my
name) Computer Administrator, Password Protected & then other accts that I
have set up. In Window's Explorer all of my folders are under the Owner
Acct. (MyDocuments, ect.). (I understand now that I should not have used the
"Owner" acct.) The (my name) folders are under "Default Acct". I don't know
how or when this acct was established?? I have changed the name (my name) on
my acct (Owner) a few times trying to figure this out. It did read Owner at
one point. My question is how am I logging in now? It seems like I am
logging into the Default Acct., but all My Documents, ect are still under
Owner. Task Manager shows No Users. It used to show "Owner".
Run>USERPASSWORDS2 shows the accts I set up, Owner, Computer Administrator
and ASPNET, no (my name)?? Also what is ASPNET? That was not always in
there.

Somebody did answer part of my question before. This is NOT the Window's
"built-in" User according to a script that was provided to me. I have always
had my computer set to show hidden files, so this "Default" Acct. should
have always been visable. I have looked in Event Viewer. Don't understand
it much, but there are a lot of failure entries for the Owner logon.
Everything under the User is N/A. Any help appreciated. I just don't get
it. :(
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  1. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    You are babbling around a mess that you have created...

    The only thing that counts is what is in "Local Users and Groups" >
    "Users"...that can be gotten to by right clicking on "My Computer", either
    on your desktop or in the start menu. Clean that up...ie delete all, except
    the administrator and the guest account.

    Next cleanup the registry...all of your past a present users are there under
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
    NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\... the S-1-5-18, S-1-5-19 and S-1-5-20
    accounts are needed for windows to work, so do not touch them. The
    S-1-5-21-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxx accounts are the ones listed in
    CP or deleted accounts. You have one of two choices here...because I am
    explaining this to you, I suggest that you delete the whole S-1-5-21-...
    folders, except the administrator account, and start all over again. The
    other option is to edit the information here to what you want it to be...I
    don't think that you have the computer savey to accomplish this option, that
    is why I suggested the former.

    As Confusion say..."Rots of Ruck!"
  2. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:27:08 -0700, ^^Patty^^ wrote:

    > I have asked this queston several times, but no answers yet. I have three
    > User Accounts shown in the CP > User Accounts. My account is shown as (my
    > name) Computer Administrator, Password Protected & then other accts that I
    > have set up. In Window's Explorer all of my folders are under the Owner
    > Acct. (MyDocuments, ect.). (I understand now that I should not have used the
    > "Owner" acct.) The (my name) folders are under "Default Acct". I don't know
    > how or when this acct was established?? I have changed the name (my name) on
    > my acct (Owner) a few times trying to figure this out. It did read Owner at
    > one point. My question is how am I logging in now? It seems like I am
    > logging into the Default Acct., but all My Documents, ect are still under
    > Owner. Task Manager shows No Users. It used to show "Owner".
    > Run>USERPASSWORDS2 shows the accts I set up, Owner, Computer Administrator
    > and ASPNET, no (my name)?? Also what is ASPNET? That was not always in
    > there.
    >
    > Somebody did answer part of my question before. This is NOT the Window's
    > "built-in" User according to a script that was provided to me. I have always
    > had my computer set to show hidden files, so this "Default" Acct. should
    > have always been visable. I have looked in Event Viewer. Don't understand
    > it much, but there are a lot of failure entries for the Owner logon.
    > Everything under the User is N/A. Any help appreciated. I just don't get
    > it. :(

    I got lost trying to follow your description but have a tip that may help
    you sort this out:

    If you type %userprofile% into Start> Run, Windows Explorer will open a
    folder window - the main folder for the account that you are currently
    logged on with.

    --
    Sharon F
    MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
  3. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    Ok, Thank you. I am still logged in under Owner, which is fine. I just
    don't know where this "Default Acct" came from. An extra account which
    somehow was created & the (My Documents, etc) has my name on them, the name
    which shows when I login (which is actually the Administrator/Owner Acct, the
    one I always use). Nothing ever goes into the Default Acct. It just looks
    like another user account, only it is called "Default" & it is a hidden
    folder. This Default User does not appear in CP, My Computer,
    CONTROLUSERPASSWORDS2 or anywhere else. Seems weird. This Default Account
    just mysteriously appeared by itself in Window's Explorer and does not appear
    anywhere else. It is like this Default Acct and the Owner Acct are somehow
    intermingled. I know I probably screwed this all up. I am trying to figure
    out a way to fix it w/o starting over. Thank you again for your input.


    "Sharon F" wrote:

    > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:27:08 -0700, ^^Patty^^ wrote:
    >
    > > I have asked this queston several times, but no answers yet. I have three
    > > User Accounts shown in the CP > User Accounts. My account is shown as (my
    > > name) Computer Administrator, Password Protected & then other accts that I
    > > have set up. In Window's Explorer all of my folders are under the Owner
    > > Acct. (MyDocuments, ect.). (I understand now that I should not have used the
    > > "Owner" acct.) The (my name) folders are under "Default Acct". I don't know
    > > how or when this acct was established?? I have changed the name (my name) on
    > > my acct (Owner) a few times trying to figure this out. It did read Owner at
    > > one point. My question is how am I logging in now? It seems like I am
    > > logging into the Default Acct., but all My Documents, ect are still under
    > > Owner. Task Manager shows No Users. It used to show "Owner".
    > > Run>USERPASSWORDS2 shows the accts I set up, Owner, Computer Administrator
    > > and ASPNET, no (my name)?? Also what is ASPNET? That was not always in
    > > there.
    > >
    > > Somebody did answer part of my question before. This is NOT the Window's
    > > "built-in" User according to a script that was provided to me. I have always
    > > had my computer set to show hidden files, so this "Default" Acct. should
    > > have always been visable. I have looked in Event Viewer. Don't understand
    > > it much, but there are a lot of failure entries for the Owner logon.
    > > Everything under the User is N/A. Any help appreciated. I just don't get
    > > it. :(
    >
    > I got lost trying to follow your description but have a tip that may help
    > you sort this out:
    >
    > If you type %userprofile% into Start> Run, Windows Explorer will open a
    > folder window - the main folder for the account that you are currently
    > logged on with.
    >
    > --
    > Sharon F
    > MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
    >
  4. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    I am well aware that I caused this "mess". My "babbling" was an effort to
    make things clear. I don't have an Administrator or Guest Acct in My
    Computer. I have some knowledge of the registry & have made changes in the
    past. However, you are right, I am not "computer savey" enough to make the
    changes you are suggesting. I will continue to research. I am just having a
    hard time understanding the whole XP concept with User Accounts. Thank you.



    "<©¿©>" wrote:

    > You are babbling around a mess that you have created...
    >
    > The only thing that counts is what is in "Local Users and Groups" >
    > "Users"...that can be gotten to by right clicking on "My Computer", either
    > on your desktop or in the start menu. Clean that up...ie delete all, except
    > the administrator and the guest account.
    >
    > Next cleanup the registry...all of your past a present users are there under
    > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
    > NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\... the S-1-5-18, S-1-5-19 and S-1-5-20
    > accounts are needed for windows to work, so do not touch them. The
    > S-1-5-21-xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxx-xxx accounts are the ones listed in
    > CP or deleted accounts. You have one of two choices here...because I am
    > explaining this to you, I suggest that you delete the whole S-1-5-21-...
    > folders, except the administrator account, and start all over again. The
    > other option is to edit the information here to what you want it to be...I
    > don't think that you have the computer savey to accomplish this option, that
    > is why I suggested the former.
    >
    > As Confusion say..."Rots of Ruck!"
    >
    >
    >
    >
  5. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:19:04 -0700, ^^Patty^^ wrote:

    > Nothing ever goes into the Default Acct. It just looks
    > like another user account, only it is called "Default" & it is a hidden
    > folder.

    Yes, this is normal. "Default User" is a template account. It is used as a
    base. Create a new account and Default User supplies the basics. Then the
    "trimmings" of All Users and the individual's preferences are added to
    create a "total profile experience."

    --
    Sharon F
    MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
  6. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    I just told you what the default account was! Don't you read? See my post
    above.
  7. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    Nothing in your post told me what the default account was.

    "<©¿©>" wrote:

    > I just told you what the default account was! Don't you read? See my post
    > above.
    >
    >
    >
    >
  8. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    ^^Patty^^ wrote:

    > My question is how am I logging in now? It seems like I am
    > logging into the Default Acct.,

    "Default User" is not a user account you can use to logon on with,
    actually, it is not a user account at all, you are seeing the folder
    structure that is used as a template for all new user accounts that
    is created on the computer (all the files/folders under "Default User"
    will be copied to the new user's profile folder.


    > but all My Documents, ect are still under Owner.

    Then you are logged in as Owner still.


    > Task Manager shows No Users. It used to show "Owner".
    > Run>USERPASSWORDS2 shows the accts I set up, Owner, Computer Administrator
    > and ASPNET, no (my name)?? Also what is ASPNET? That was not always in
    > there.

    What is the ASP.NET Machine Account?
    http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php


    --
    torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
    Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
    the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
  9. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    Thank you.

    "Sharon F" wrote:

    > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:19:04 -0700, ^^Patty^^ wrote:
    >
    > > Nothing ever goes into the Default Acct. It just looks
    > > like another user account, only it is called "Default" & it is a hidden
    > > folder.
    >
    > Yes, this is normal. "Default User" is a template account. It is used as a
    > base. Create a new account and Default User supplies the basics. Then the
    > "trimmings" of All Users and the individual's preferences are added to
    > create a "total profile experience."
    >
    > --
    > Sharon F
    > MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
    >
  10. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    Thank you. Understand ASPNET now & I understand that what appears to be a
    Default Acct is a really a template. So as I understand it, when I change
    the name of my (Owner) Acct in CP, to say XXX this change is reflected under
    the Default Acct Template's directory as XXX's Documents, etc. in Window's
    Explorer because I have always used the Owner Acct from the beginning & never
    really set myself with a User Acct. Am I on the right track?


    "Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:

    > ^^Patty^^ wrote:
    >
    > > My question is how am I logging in now? It seems like I am
    > > logging into the Default Acct.,
    >
    > "Default User" is not a user account you can use to logon on with,
    > actually, it is not a user account at all, you are seeing the folder
    > structure that is used as a template for all new user accounts that
    > is created on the computer (all the files/folders under "Default User"
    > will be copied to the new user's profile folder.
    >
    >
    > > but all My Documents, ect are still under Owner.
    >
    > Then you are logged in as Owner still.
    >
    >
    > > Task Manager shows No Users. It used to show "Owner".
    > > Run>USERPASSWORDS2 shows the accts I set up, Owner, Computer Administrator
    > > and ASPNET, no (my name)?? Also what is ASPNET? That was not always in
    > > there.
    >
    > What is the ASP.NET Machine Account?
    > http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/aspdot.php
    >
    >
    > --
    > torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
    > Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
    > the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
    > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
    >
  11. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    NO!!! You are biting off more than you can chew. Take smaller bites.

    you have missed the boat compleatley...again.

    Yes, the "default user" is a like a template.

    No, if you change something in an egsiting account, the default user account
    has nothing to do with your changes at this point...and nothing will change
    in it the way you describe what you are doing.
  12. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    Patty I am having the same problem, I guess during set up microsoft asked for
    our names, and they used our names as a base for the user acct. All of that
    nothing that the others have typed, which is pointless has not solved the
    problem. I looked a C:/, document and settings, and I see my name and All
    users, and another user acct I tried to create. I tried to delete the one
    with my name and it did not work. I hope maybe you won't feel like it is only
    your problem. Maybe someone with some real knowledge will help you and I.

    "^^Patty^^" wrote:

    > I have asked this queston several times, but no answers yet. I have three
    > User Accounts shown in the CP > User Accounts. My account is shown as (my
    > name) Computer Administrator, Password Protected & then other accts that I
    > have set up. In Window's Explorer all of my folders are under the Owner
    > Acct. (MyDocuments, ect.). (I understand now that I should not have used the
    > "Owner" acct.) The (my name) folders are under "Default Acct". I don't know
    > how or when this acct was established?? I have changed the name (my name) on
    > my acct (Owner) a few times trying to figure this out. It did read Owner at
    > one point. My question is how am I logging in now? It seems like I am
    > logging into the Default Acct., but all My Documents, ect are still under
    > Owner. Task Manager shows No Users. It used to show "Owner".
    > Run>USERPASSWORDS2 shows the accts I set up, Owner, Computer Administrator
    > and ASPNET, no (my name)?? Also what is ASPNET? That was not always in
    > there.
    >
    > Somebody did answer part of my question before. This is NOT the Window's
    > "built-in" User according to a script that was provided to me. I have always
    > had my computer set to show hidden files, so this "Default" Acct. should
    > have always been visable. I have looked in Event Viewer. Don't understand
    > it much, but there are a lot of failure entries for the Owner logon.
    > Everything under the User is N/A. Any help appreciated. I just don't get
    > it. :(
  13. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize (More info?)

    "{ABNER}" <{ABNER}@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
    | Patty I am having the same problem, I guess during set up microsoft asked for
    | our names, and they used our names as a base for the user acct. All of that
    | nothing that the others have typed, which is pointless has not solved the
    | problem. I looked a C:/, document and settings, and I see my name and All
    | users, and another user acct I tried to create. I tried to delete the one
    | with my name and it did not work. I hope maybe you won't feel like it is only
    | your problem. Maybe someone with some real knowledge will help you and I.


    When you tried to delete the acct with your name, had you logged on to
    another admin acct, then went into Control Panel > User Accounts >
    Picked "acct with your name" > Delete the account ?
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