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January 23, 2012 2:42:07 AM

Always hear of this site and just now decided to check out and see if you all can help me out on what GPU I should buy next. I would like to say my price rang is anything $300 but if its worth it I'll go $400ish. I have had both ATI and Nvidia. I come to a conclusion I like them both pretty much equal lol So I'm not picky there. Right now I'm looking at the ATI 5970 and the Nvidia GTX580, but I just cant decide. If anything else you guys can recommend that would be great :)  I need to start keeping up with the new GPU's that come out XD I'm always somewhat lost when I'm ready to upgrade. Here are my specs to help.


Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 630 Processor (4 CPUs), OC'd 3.3GHz
Memory: OCZ AMD black edition 6GB DDR3 1600
Video Card: XFX 5870 1GB Eyefinty overclocked.
Motherboard: ASUS EVO/U23S6 SLI USB 3.0
Power supply: Roswill 650watt.


Also I did the measurements and the 5970 will fit just fine. And If anyone knows if the AM3+ socket will work with AM3 socket? I would like to upgrade to a 8core but see they have a AM3+ socket now so I was like "uuuuhhh when did that happen o.0" And
If you could pick upgrading CPU or GPU first ? lol My CPU is still running strong so I don't believe I need to upgrade it yet. Hell my whole PC is still going strong still maxing everything out, but I just feel the need to upgrade something XD


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January 23, 2012 7:26:36 AM

where did you plan on buying a 5970? ebay? i don't think retailers stock them anymore. wait until january 31st and buy a 7950.
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a c 169 U Graphics card
January 23, 2012 7:36:48 AM

I had 5970 and had to sell it and got a 580 and I'm extremely happy with it.
5970 is a great card but the driver support isn't great,as a result in games that don't benefit from CF,you'll experience low FPS.So I'd recommend getting 580.It maybe slower in some games(not notable) but at least you have proper driver support and also it runs cooler,quieter and is less noisier
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a c 84 U Graphics card
January 23, 2012 7:44:21 AM

it will be better to get an hd 6950 or 6970 instead of hd 5970 and it will be good if u wait until 31st january because of the hd 7950 it will be under $400 and it is made up of new architecture of 28nm.:) 

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-radeon-hd-7950-hd-...
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a c 93 U Graphics card
January 23, 2012 8:19:16 AM

get another 5870 in crossfire if you can.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
January 23, 2012 11:11:00 AM

Wait for 7950... It should bring you much better experience of graphic card at ~$400.
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January 23, 2012 1:43:53 PM

I found the 5970 on newegg lol. I could wait I'm in no rush to upgrade. If the 7950 is under 400 then That sounds pretty awesome. Maybe someone will have benchmark's for the 7950 and 580 someday then I can see how they both do.

Anyone know about the AM3+ socket CPU working with AM3? Bought a AM3 motherboard cause I thought AMD's 8 core would be AM3 but I see they are AM3+.
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a b U Graphics card
January 23, 2012 2:14:35 PM

If you don't need the new card urgently then wait for Kepler as well...see which card is best at $300-$400.

My suggestion is to get another 5870...if you can get a second hand one for $150-$200. the reason being that your CPU is weak and will bottleneck a top end GPU. You need a 2500k or you can wait for Ivy bridge 3500k (should be available around May/June). None of the current Amd processors can match 2500k once its overclocked to 4.2ghz+...this is in gaming..they are good for other stuff but for gaming 2500k rules
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a b U Graphics card
January 23, 2012 2:21:13 PM

well gtx 580 is old comparing to 7970. 7970 will be faster, why not wait till nvidia comes out with the 600 series and see the prices drop? 7970 is $550 atm
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January 23, 2012 2:23:39 PM

I may wait and see what comes out in the next few months my 5870 is still going strong. I'm a little lost, what do you mean by "2500k"? lol If the new CPU are a different socket that means a new motherboard :(  lol I hate buying new motherboards -_-'
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a b U Graphics card
January 23, 2012 2:46:56 PM

7950, defintely, don't crossfire your 5870, performance scales very badly.
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January 23, 2012 2:48:14 PM

2500k is the intel I5 2500k CPU.

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a b U Graphics card
January 23, 2012 2:52:31 PM

really now is just not a great time to buy a gpu, however 2-3 months from now will be a great time with all the new releases/aftermarket versions of them will come out
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January 23, 2012 3:08:54 PM

Your issue looks a bit like mine, I have an i5 750 oc'd at 4ghz on an asus evo p7p55 m/b with 8 gb ram at 1600 and want to change my current 5850 to a newer one. I got various respomses, as you did, from the community, a guy suggested I should get 2 560 with SLI. I also hate the fact that to change cpu you have to change mobo as well, and the term bottleneck really hits my nerves... For the time being I stick to what I have and maybe will consider the 7950, or see what nvidia will bring out ... Sli and Xfire I dont really trust (power consumption, microstuttering.. etc.)
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a c 185 U Graphics card
January 23, 2012 3:26:45 PM

Well I don't think it's a good Idea to get bulldozer, since the performance of bulldozer is not that great in games that utilize only two core. Get a Phenom II X4 980, an AM3 socket and in those games it should be at least the same or better.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Use your old cooler (AM3 cooler are compatible with another AM3 cooler, just you need a thermal paste).

Then buy a 7950 when it comes out, good luck.

Also, make sure you have a motherboard that support more than 125W. It would be nice if you show me your motherboard.
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January 23, 2012 6:17:47 PM

My next rig will be Intel but that wont be for another 5-10 months when I'm out of the academy and make real money XD Until then I stick to AMD/ATI cause they cheap and get the job done rofl. So I'm trying to make this rig last me as long as it can. But yeah I'll think I'll wait and see what the 7950 has to hold when it comes out, and look up benchmarks comparing it to Nvidia's upcoming series.

Until then think I'll just buy a new PSU, this 650 one has lasted maybe 6 years XD,But its time for a 750/800watt. then a new CPU maybe i'll get a new GPU last so it gives me time to see how the upcoming ones preform and see peoples feedback on them.
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a b U Graphics card
January 23, 2012 6:54:02 PM

Quoting MissDazzle:

"Until then think I'll just buy a new PSU, this 650 one has lasted maybe 6 years XD,But its time for a 750/800watt. then a new CPU maybe i'll get a new GPU last so it gives me time to see how the upcoming ones preform and see peoples feedback on them."

-how about a real psu, rosewill is absolute garbage and you will be able to run your system on a quality 500W unit... SMH

it will do you no good to buy another junk 750-850W psu you will be much better served by a corsair tx650 or something along those lines, if anything in the mean time you should at least get a reliable PSU
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January 23, 2012 7:49:26 PM

I don't know much on what brand is better, I just figure rosewill is fine. It has lasted 6 years or more so I'm happy with that XD But I'm thinking I'll go with atec or something.
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a b U Graphics card
January 23, 2012 7:55:32 PM

yeah lets just say you got lucky but also realize that you actual system draw for these past years was likely no more then 300-400 Watts and I can almost guarantee your PSU is/was not delivering proper wattage/amperage and voltage regulation.

As a rule of thumb I usually buy Antec, Corsair, XFX, or Seasonic, IMO those are all good names. Yes most companies have a high and a low end but at the end of the day these are the brands I trust.

I have a backup rig running an oc'ed amd quad (955) and a oc'ed 6850 with a 380W Antec Earthwatts PSU, it has 28 AMPs on the 12v rail which is more then enough for my system. My point is that you do not need big sloppy power supplies... they can lead to crying and ultimately ruining your components if you are not careful.

Buy a PSU that fits your system, not the other way around and from the specs you are talking I do not see the need for you to have more then a quality 600w unit
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January 26, 2012 3:43:02 PM

I'll keep that in mined jj thanks for the info from everyone.
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January 27, 2012 1:10:58 PM

Red and black, I'm sold already! lol
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a b U Graphics card
January 28, 2012 9:00:46 AM

a quality 650w for over a hundred is a shite deal imo, besides all those psus are absolute overkill for you needs...

The psus you guys listed are dope but just not needed for the OP, a quality 500-600W unit will more then do the trick and the antec 650w unit that was listed is a ripoff imo... I got my XFX 650W XXX Black Edtion PSU which is a seasonic for 80 bucks and I felt that was a decent deal given its modular design and reliability... with that exact PSU, I currently run the rig in my sig with no issue which happens to be GTX 560ti SLi (oc'ed) and a i52500k oc'ed to 4.5ghz... (just for a frame of reference) in comparison your system draw will be a lot less, so I'd say even a 650W would be more than fine for you (the OP)... that is if its a quality unit which it seems that you have developed a keen eye for those types of products, now you just gotta find a deal... good luck; just start trolling some sites for a few days and something good should pop up...
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a c 185 U Graphics card
January 28, 2012 11:58:40 AM

You are right jjb8675309, but in my opinion there is no such thing as 'overkill PSU' in my opinion, because PSU is the part you would change least (Beside the Drives or maybe case), so the PSU will bring you a big upgradebility :) .
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a b U Graphics card
January 28, 2012 1:19:35 PM

Ok fair enough but personally I buy a psu for the components they we be running not the other way around.... but that's just me
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January 28, 2012 3:41:08 PM

A 650 would be fine for me, that I do know cause its what I been running with. Just thought maybe a bigger one would be more future proof. But I really don't know as much as I thought about PSU's I guess lol. I always just looked for 80 certificate and just good old reviews of people.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
January 29, 2012 10:05:40 AM

Well if you don't want to overkill your PSU, It's OK, but more than $100 just for 650W is a rip off, you can get XFX Core 650W or Corsair TX650 for less than $100. Now why I am suggesting you to get an Antec HCG 900W is because you have the budget to buy it, which means that if you are willing to pay to buy that PSU, better buy the PSU that I suggested. But if you like to buy a 650W one it's fine, but if you are willing to pay more I see that there is no mistake for you to do that. It will bring you the upgradebility for maybe more than 5 years.
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a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2012 10:51:32 AM

I say 7950.
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a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2012 3:55:50 PM

just cause its 80+ doesnt mean that its a good unit, just means it efficient
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