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March 30, 2012 5:48:04 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: Between $3000 AUD and lets say close to $4000 AUD

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Adobe Master Collection (Rendering), High demanding video games, (other things, but lets face it, with the other stuff in mind, there wouldn't be anything that I also need to add)

Parts Not Required: Speakers, mouse, keyboard

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon (unless they can't do international shipping), tigerdirect

Country: Australia

Parts Preferences: Intel and Nivida

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Monitor Resolution: 5760 x 1080 (3x 1920 x 1080)

Additional Comments: Already got two EVGA GTX 680's in my shopping basket, need three screens 24" preferably with a small frame so they can fit together without much of a black space, would like 1.5TB main HD

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March 30, 2012 6:23:24 AM

Note the word usually.
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March 30, 2012 6:29:54 AM

Well if you say so, I haven't found a case where that has been true. Well either way, the budget is as it was, so if the parts come off another website it won't bother me.
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March 30, 2012 7:23:00 AM

So has anyone got any recommendations for screens? I'm looking for them to be 24" LED 1920x1080 with 120HZ refresh rate
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March 30, 2012 8:06:04 AM

Hggh12345 said:
Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: Between $3000 AUD and lets say close to $4000 AUD

Additional Comments: Already got two EVGA GTX 680's in my shopping basket, need three screens 24" preferably with a small frame so they can fit together without much of a black space, would like 1.5TB main HD


Dual GPU is not supported by Premiere Pro, so it is a waste of money to get two cards. A single 680 supports 3 screens. Samsung F2380 with small bezels may be an option.

Have a look here: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/947698?tstart=0

Your disk setup is the weakest point. You need at least three different 7200 RPM disks for a beginner/hobby system editing easy codecs, but with DSLR, RED or EPIC material, you need a way better disk setup.
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March 30, 2012 8:08:11 AM

Hggh12345 said:
So has anyone got any recommendations for screens? I'm looking for them to be 24" LED 1920x1080 with 120HZ refresh rate

Can they be higher size?
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March 30, 2012 1:34:37 PM

azeem40 said:
Can they be higher size?

Well I would prefer 24" as I'm used to using that, they also can't be much bigger than that as they won't fit on my desk
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March 30, 2012 1:37:52 PM

Harm Millaard said:
Dual GPU is not supported by Premiere Pro, so it is a waste of money to get two cards. A single 680 supports 3 screens. Samsung F2380 with small bezels may be an option.

Have a look here: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/947698?tstart=0

Your disk setup is the weakest point. You need at least three different 7200 RPM disks for a beginner/hobby system editing easy codecs, but with DSLR, RED or EPIC material, you need a way better disk setup.


In relation to the comment about the hard drives, I'm currently using one 7200 RPM 1TB disk and that seems to work well with Premiere Pro, it's never seemed to be slow?
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March 30, 2012 2:10:32 PM

my recommendation

http://www.tigerdirect.com/cgi-bin/ShoppingCart.asp?prc...

intel i7 3960k
noctua nh d-14
asus x79 sabertooth 3 way sli
corsair xms 4x4 gb 1600 ddr3
2 x evga gtx 680 2gb
ocz 1250 w 80+ gold psu
lg blue ray burner
seagate 3 tb 7200 hdd
crucial m4 128 gb sata 3
3 x asus 24" 1920 x 1200 ips professional monitor
cooler master storm tropper full tower case

cost :$4,357.86

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March 30, 2012 2:20:18 PM

serialkiller said:
my recommendation

http://www.tigerdirect.com/cgi-bin/ShoppingCart.asp?prc...

intel i7 3960k
noctua nh d-14
asus x79 sabertooth 3 way sli
corsair xms 4x4 gb 1600 ddr3
2 x evga gtx 680 2gb
ocz 1250 w 80+ gold psu
lg blue ray burner
seagate 3 tb 7200 hdd
crucial m4 128 gb sata 3
3 x asus 24" 1920 x 1200 ips professional monitor
cooler master storm tropper full tower case

cost :$4,357.86


Could you please post links for each of these items? The shopping cart link doesn't work because it relies on cookies that are on your computer, not mine. And the i7 3960k? I couldn't find a link for that
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March 30, 2012 2:51:10 PM

Hggh12345 said:
In relation to the comment about the hard drives, I'm currently using one 7200 RPM 1TB disk and that seems to work well with Premiere Pro, it's never seemed to be slow?


See this blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/toddkopriva/2011/02/optimizing-f...

Even Adobe confirms that three different 7200 RPM disks is the practical minimum, but if you use complex and heavily compressed codecs like RED 4K or EPIC 5K, even three disks is not enough. You have to keep in mind that SATA is a half-duplex connection and that slows everything down to a crawl for video editing. Look at some of the Hardware FAQ's under the Overview tab here: http://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere/hardware_for...

I suggest you try the http://ppbm5.com/index.html Benchmark test and see how fast/slow your system is.
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March 30, 2012 2:51:41 PM
March 30, 2012 3:07:00 PM

As he is gonna play on 3 monitors at high to ultra res
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March 30, 2012 3:12:30 PM

serialkiller said:
As he is gonna play on 3 monitors at high to ultra res


That is handled by a single card. At least for normal monitor resolutions, up to 2500 something. Not if you are talking about 4K monitors, then it is a different ball game.

I would rather save the $ 600 on the second 680 card and use it to improve the disk setup. Look here http://www.videoguys.com/Blog/
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March 30, 2012 3:18:47 PM

Harm Millaard said:
Why two GTX 680 cards, when only one can be used? Seems like a pretty effective way to throw money down the drain.


I've been offered a deal that for this computer I don't have to pay $3000 of it, so I'm trying to future proof it as much as possible
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March 30, 2012 3:19:22 PM

Harm Millaard said:
That is handled by a single card. At least for normal monitor resolutions, up to 2500 something. Not if you are talking about 4K monitors, then it is a different ball game.

I would rather save the $ 600 on the second 680 card and use it to improve the disk setup. Look here http://www.videoguys.com/Blog/


Go on about the disk setup?
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March 30, 2012 3:31:22 PM

As the ops wish

i feel about that same like you guys.
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March 30, 2012 4:20:14 PM

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Go with triple 23" monitors instead, i found a monitor with really thin bezels!

GPU: 2X http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... =1020$
CPU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... = 570
MOBO: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... =255$
RAM:http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... = 165$
PSU:http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... = 200$
MNITR: 3X http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... =840$
CASE: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... = 200$
SSD: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... = 180$
HDD: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... =110$
OPTDRV: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... =80$
CPUCOOLER: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... = 60$

Grand Total: 3680$ + Shipping to Australia AND if i were you, i will add a third GTX 680 wich will bring the total up by (510$ GTX 680) + (Current Build 3680$) = 4190$, if were you i will get the third GTX 680, Why?? because @ 5170x 1080p games get pretty heavy, so you will need a lot of power to move them @ 5670x1080 w/ Max settings.


Shipping comes in at $1,146.06, bring it to more than $4800
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March 30, 2012 4:51:07 PM

http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-16011485-Corsair_Carbide_Se... $155.00 inc. GST
Corsair Carbide 500R Case - Black

http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/153305/POWERSUPPLIES_800W_-... $148.00
XFX 850W Core Edition - 135mm Fan, 80Plus Bronze

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $239.00
ASRock X79 Extreme4 Motherboard

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $309.00
Intel Core i7 3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core with Hyper-Threading

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $39.00
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-BladeMaster-Silent-... $11.99 USD
Cooler Master BladeMaster 120mm PWM High Air Flow Silent Case Fan (R4-BMBS-20PK-R0)

http://www.megabuy.com.au/gskill-manufacturer-gskill-gs... $272.27 (Inc. GST)
G.Skill [ ARES ] F3-1600C10Q-32GAO 32Gb (4x 8Gb) DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) 1.5v

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $109.00
Seagate Barracuda 1TB ST1000DM003

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $159.00
Patriot Pyro SE 120GB SSD

http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-42051144-EVGA_GeForce_GTX_6...(GPU_ $627.10 inc. GST
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (02G-P4-2680-AR)

http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-42051144-EVGA_GeForce_GTX_6...(GPU_ $627.10 inc. GST
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (02G-P4-2680-AR)

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $285.00
Samsung S23A750 23in 120Hz 3D Widescreen LED Monitor

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $285.00
Samsung S23A750 23in 120Hz 3D Widescreen LED Monitor

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $285.00
Samsung S23A750 23in 120Hz 3D Widescreen LED Monitor

Total: $3,547.46 AUD

***Alternative CPU

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $629.00
Intel Core i7 3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619I73930K

***Alternative Memory Kits

http://www.mwave.com.au/sku-37141020-G_Skill_ARES_16GB_(2x_8GB)_Dual_Channel_Memory_Kit_PC3_10666_DDR3_1333MHz_240pin $116.20 inc. GST
G.Skill ARES 16GB (2x 8GB) Dual Channel Memory Kit - PC3-10666 / DDR3-1333MHz - 240pin DIMM - CL 9-9-9 2N - 1.5V - Unbuffered - Non-ECC (F3-1333C9D-16GAO)

http://www.spotit.com.au/buy/120545_G_Skill_DDR3_1600_1... $139.00 inc.GST
G.Skill DDR3-1600 16GB Dual Channel [ARES] F3-1600C10D-16GAO GS-F3-1600C10D-16GAO

***Alternative Power Supplies

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $159.00
Silverstone Strider Plus 850W ST85F-P 100% modular 80 PLUS Silver

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $175.00
OCZ Technology ZX Series 850W Power Supply Fully Modular 80+ Gold

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... $155.00
Antec High Current Gamer 900W Power Supply HCG-900 80 PLUS Bronze certified

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/x79-extreme4-dx79to... <----- Review of that motherboard

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4480/asrock_x79_extrem... <----- Review of that motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=X79%20Extre... <---- more on that board...get your updated bios here

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <---- a better look at that case
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March 30, 2012 4:52:58 PM

Where is gpu and monitors
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March 30, 2012 5:00:24 PM

serialkiller said:
Where is gpu and monitors

The OP is going to buy 680's and I posted a 3D monitor on that link. I think he's buying 3 monitors so just x 3.
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March 30, 2012 5:03:47 PM

Harm Millaard said:
Why two GTX 680 cards, when only one can be used? Seems like a pretty effective way to throw money down the drain.

If you read OP carefully, he stated he is gaming on 3 1080p monitors, which means the res will be 5760x1080. He will need two 680s to play on ultra at max settings with 60fps constant.
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March 30, 2012 5:28:51 PM

Here's how I would spend that money:

Case: Corsair Carbide 500R - $159.99
PSU: Corsair HX850 Gold - $245.99
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 - $375.99
CPU: 3.2GHz Intel Core i7-3930K - $569.99
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 LGA2011 Edition - $89.00
RAM: G.Skill Ares 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1866 MHz 1.5V - $135.00
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $179.99
HD: Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB - $139.99
Optical: LG BD-R Burner - $79.99
OS: Windows 7 Pro - $129.99
Video Card: 2 x EVGA Geforce GTX 680 - $699.99 each
Monitor: 3 x Acer V243H 24" LED LCD - $159.99 each

Total: $3,919.82
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March 30, 2012 5:46:58 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Here's how I would spend that money:

Case: Corsair Carbide 500R - $159.99
PSU: Corsair HX850 Gold - $245.99
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 - $375.99
CPU: 3.2GHz Intel Core i7-3930K - $569.99
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 LGA2011 Edition - $89.00
RAM: G.Skill Ares 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1866 MHz 1.5V - $135.00
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $179.99
HD: Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB - $139.99
Optical: LG BD-R Burner - $79.99
OS: Windows 7 Pro - $129.99
Video Card: 2 x EVGA Geforce GTX 680 - $699.99 each
Monitor: 3 x Acer V243H 24" LED LCD - $159.99 each

Total: $3,919.82

Note he mentioned 120Hz. The build suggested by serial fits all his needs without leaving anything out.
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March 30, 2012 5:51:41 PM

@ gunit-1111

you could get corsair carbide 600t white edition just by adding few extra bucks.

Corsair hx850 isnt 80+ gold its 80+ silvet.

In the cost of that psu you could get seasonic x-850 gold.

Also sli two gtx 680 needs 78 amps which an 850w cant provide.

Suggestion is get the pc power and cooling silencer mkii 950w 80+ silver psu.

Why 1866mhz he wont see any difference between 1600 and 1866mhz.



What happened to you. you used to give unmatchable performance.
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March 30, 2012 5:53:02 PM

a $400 motherboard .....
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March 30, 2012 5:55:07 PM

@ serial: His philosophy doesn't match the needs of the OP.
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March 30, 2012 6:11:48 PM

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@ gunit-1111


you could get corsair carbide 600t white edition just by adding few extra bucks.


I personally like the Carbide 500R better than the 600T - the 600T - which I have - is too big to fit under most desks, the Carbide is a lot slimmer.

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In the cost of that psu you could get seasonic x-850 gold.


Also sli two gtx 680 needs 78 amps which an 850w cant provide.


I didn't see Seasonic listed on that site. Otherwise I would have picked that PSU over the HX 850 any day of the week. That site is a bit difficult to navigate.

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Note he mentioned 120Hz. The build suggested by serial fits all his needs without leaving anything out.


I always forget about the refresh rates, those monitors are quite expensive.

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Why 1866mhz he wont see any difference between 1600 and 1866mhz.


Yeah true - like I said that site isn't as easy to navigate as Newegg or Tiger but I definitely get that.

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What happened to you. you used to give unmatchable performance.


Well hey even Dexter slips up every once in a while... :lol: 
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March 30, 2012 6:19:09 PM

*edit
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March 30, 2012 6:20:38 PM

True the site is not user friendly.
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March 30, 2012 6:21:32 PM

Excellent advice from Why_Me. However, I think the deal on the 950W PCPC Silencer is too good to give up. It's $10 less and has a 4 year longer warranty! :) 
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March 30, 2012 6:25:15 PM

azeem40 said:
Excellent advice from Why_Me. However, I think the deal on the 950W PCPC Silencer is too good to give up. It's $10 less and has a 4 year longer warranty! :) 


I know that PSU is a steal for the price, I'm planning on upgrading my system to that at some point.
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March 30, 2012 6:25:56 PM

I just bought it. :D 
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March 30, 2012 6:26:14 PM

azeem40 said:
Excellent advice from Why_Me. However, I think the deal on the 950W PCPC Silencer is too good to give up. It's $10 less and has a 4 year longer warranty! :) 

How much to ship it to Australia and what's the conversion rate for AUD to USD + import tax?



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March 30, 2012 10:24:22 PM

Why_Me said:
How much to ship it to Australia and what's the conversion rate for AUD to USD + import tax?


One thing I'd be worried about with that is the power requirements - I'm sure they're much different in Australia than they are here in the US.
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March 30, 2012 11:52:34 PM

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Actually the power requirements of anything is the same in any location on the world, an i7 consumes 130W in the U.S or china, what MIGHT changes is the voltage, and it doesnt matter where you are, the power outlet will output 110V or 220V, so, if in europe you have 220v outlets, then, when you connect your PSU to the outlet be sure to chane the switch from 110V to 220V so it can do the propper power convertion, every PSU has that switch :bounce: 


It's not the internal components so much as it is the PSU - the voltage is definitely what I'd be worried about far more than the rest of the internal components.
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March 31, 2012 4:55:23 AM

230V is used in Australia, so just flip the switch.
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March 31, 2012 6:18:39 AM

So in the end for anyone who is curious, this is what I have decided to go with.

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It will cost me $3946.69, or $3886.69 after coupon cash back things.
Thanks everyone who helped, which was actually quite a few, it will be hard to decide a 'top answer' as i suppose most of them were top answers.
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March 31, 2012 6:46:12 AM

For SLI 680, you don't need more than 850W.
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March 31, 2012 7:33:39 AM

Best answer selected by Hggh12345.
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March 31, 2012 7:34:32 AM

Selected as the best answer simply because it's the one that I based the computer off the most at the start, changing it as I went
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