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Okay. I'm pretty sure that this topic was addressed several time, but here I'm at it...

Okay, what would do better in gaming? GTX 560 Ti Superclocked, or an HD 6950? A link to the 2 cards are below:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7191453&CatId=3669

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7203653&CatId=7005

What are the differences between the 2 cards (i.e. what exclusive tech does each of them have, and how useful is the tech)? I know the Nvidia has PhysicsX, but how good is physicsX?

How much headroom is there for overclocking? which one is better before over-clock? which one after?

I realize that both of these cards are pretty much the same, but i'm looking to enforce myself with a good reason to buy one over the other. Which one should i buy and why?
 

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The 6950 beats the GTX 560ti whether its overclocked or not overclocked. The only time 560ti can beat 6950 is if your game is such that it favours nvidia cards.

The reason for this is that the 560ti is meant to be $20-$30 cheaper than 6950...newegg sells a 560ti for $180-$190. For $230 you can get a 6950 2gb from powercolour . Infact I suggest you get the 2gb version because newer games will need more than 1gb of vram...bf3 and crysis 2 can use more than 1gb of vram at 1080p. This doesn't mean you absolutely need it..its more like insurance for future games..you can always drop the details a little and see no issue with a 1gb card.
 

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do you think you can provide a link?
 

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What kind of games favour Nvidia cards? im mainly thinking on playing BF3, Crysis2, Skyrim, MW3, Witcher2, Arkham City, and other games like that.
 

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also, 2 things: i have an i3-2100 CPU, and im planning on overclocking it. Is any bottlenecking gonna occur.

second, should i wait for the 7850 instead? i heard it was gonna be in the low 200 price. How will its performance stack against the 6950?
 

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The I3 can't be overclock!
 
Good luck overclocking it. You won't get much out of it as even trying affects that stability of everything else, so basically you can't. You need an unlocked CPU like the 2500k if you want to OC

It's too early to tell how the 7800 cards will stack up. You have to wait till they come out. Considering the 7950 is rumored to be $450 there would be a pretty big gap between that and a $200 card. It's the 7700 cards that are rumored to be $200.
 
the 560 ti OCs better and will perform on par with an 6950 OC but draw more power.

2gb vram is useless. even at larger than 1080p resolutions it doesn't show any improvement in performance. 1gb 6950 is 1% more powerful than the 2gb 6950 at 1080p due to memory latency.

the 6950 5-10% more powerful than the 560ti at stock
 

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Arkham city definitely favours nvidia, bf3 favours nvidia little bit too due to MSAA, crysis 2 is fine..not sure about witcher 2.

Just google GTX 560ti review..and it will show you charts that will clearly show 6950 vs 560ti. Look at the resolution you are using and the game to see which card is better.

the i3-2100 won't overclock well..you might be able to squeeze out 300-400 extra mhz because it has no unlocked multiplier.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150524

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150552

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150523


 

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I had both cards and I am recommending GTX560Ti. Sometimes 6950 is faster but FPS on GeForce are more stable and in critical moments like smoke, explosions etc does not drop as much as on 6950 .
 

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i see that there is approx a 10 frame diff between the 2. they both seem really good. The vast majority of them tell me to get 2gb HD 6950, instead of the 1 gb GTX 560 Ti, but a stable framerate is actually pretty important to me. Any one else got a response to this post?

btw, i found one that seems like a pretty good deal to me:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103202

looks beast to me, should i get it?
 

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Get this card below..it has the dual bios switch. The dual bios switch lets you safely try the AMD radeon 6970 bios on this 6950..which has a good chance of unlocking the extra shaders...making them go from 1408 to 1536. If it works you can set the clock speeds to 880/1375 . You will then have a Radeon 6970. Infact the card may already come with everything preloaded on the bios switch..so just run GPUZ after installing the card...see the shaders..should say 1408...if it does..shut the pc down (remove power plug) and change the position of the switch...run the PC again...check GPUZ..if it says 1536 it worked...just download sapphire trixx and increase clock speeds.

If the ease route doesn't work then refer to the guides below..they will help.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102954

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1608/1/

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/159
 
I think that an overclocked GTX 560 Ti HAWK will overperform every HD6950 out there. It's due to native overclockability of Fermi cards and the MSI cooler, that allows you to reach those results.

Just if you don't want to take my word for proof, I've looked up some tests:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-560-ti-hawk-review/14
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4049/msi_geforce_gtx_560_ti_hawk_video_card_review/index13.html
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/04/25/msi_n560gtxti_hawk_video_card_review/6
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_560gtx_hawk/6.htm
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=752&Itemid=72&limit=1&limitstart=13
 

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is there any for around $250? if there is, link me :)
 

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aight, thx 2 everyone. i think i will go with the 2 GB HD 6950 for $240. i'm actually gonna wait till march (when hd 7850 comes out. i will compare the 2, then choose) thx againt 2 everyone :)
 
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