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2,000-2,250 Gaming Rig. Help Please

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March 30, 2012 11:33:09 PM

Hello everyone. Longtime fan of the help you all give out here. I steer a lot of people this way if they are looking at getting a system or just wanting to get some research in the areas you all cover.

Anyway, I should get to my question... I am looking at upgrading my PC from a M15x Alienware that I fell into getting about 18 months ago. I am wanting to spend about 2k-2.5k on the set up. I know the basics on how most of it works together and I also have a strong grasp on software. That being said, I am kind of a newby when it comes to the more in-depth parts of building a gaming rig. So, after putting my plans for buying another Alienware (They do payment options, so that makes it easier for me) off for a bit, I thought I would get on here and ask for some help...from the ground up. For the aspects that I know, I want a SSD big enough to have my OS on and the few games at a time, and a blu-ray burner/player. Of course I would also like to get as much bang for my buck as I can. My resolution that I try to play on the most is 1980x1020. I would also like to try out SLI (If its worth it). Other than that, I am putty in your glorious magically internet hands. Any help would be the bee's knees.

P.S. Sorry if this sounds lazy of me, I just think that if I get too in depth, I will sound a little embarrassing. I really am just a novice at the building aspect. Thanks again.

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March 30, 2012 11:41:59 PM

Fine fine, g-unit. Lol.
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March 30, 2012 11:46:21 PM

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Here's a rig that is much, much better than an Alienware..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] &Tpk=2700k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131791
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233144
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820148443
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] &Tpk=ax750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136533
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130768
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103099


Right around 2000.


Ugh - why 2700K, a $259 motherboard, and the tall heat sink Vengeance? If you're gonna spend that much on a gaming system, go X79 rather than Z68 - far more future proof and you get PCI 3.0 support out of the box without upgrading to Ivy.

This rig is a little over budget but it's leaps and bounds better than any Alienware rig:

Here you go:

Case: Corsair Carbide 500R - $139.99
PSU: Corsair Professional Series HX850 - $174.99
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 - $329.99
CPU: 3.6GHz Intel Core i7-3820 - $309.99
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 - $95.99
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw X DDR3 1600 Quad Channel 1.5V - $129.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $159.99
HD: Seagate Barracuda ST 2TB - $119.99
Optical: LG BD-R Burner - $74.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 680 - $499.99 - *OR* - Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 - $549.99


Total: $2,275.89 (w / 7970), $2,225.89 (w/680)
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March 31, 2012 12:19:48 AM

Wow, such speedy replies. I will also state that I meant to say 1920x1080 resolution. (I am kinda sleepy). Both of those builds look great from what I understand. One of the main things that I am concerned with (from reading other posts) is the cooling system. Should I do liquid cooling with any of these builds? Why or why not? Also, what are the problems you mention about the first build g-unit1111? Any help is much appreciated. This kind of things always gets me nervous.
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March 31, 2012 12:36:53 AM

I thought about doing liquid cooling. There are pro and cons to them and also if your willing enough to stick it out for a week building one. I didn't want to wait that long so I didn't get one.
If your still thinking of doing it then get a case that supports it.

The Corsair Obsidian series 800D - $279.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or the one I got.

Antec DF-85 - $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

There are other cases but those are the only two I know of. And they support watercooling.

Here is a link from this site that takes you though the whole process.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/329468-31-monster-wat...

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265776-29-read-first-...

I hope this helps.
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March 31, 2012 12:50:10 AM

Thanks for the cooling tips. I think I might just stay with fans for now. I forgot to ask this earlier, but would the build that g-unit1111 posted support 3d down the road? I would have to get a new card right? Or would I just need a special display set up? I would research more now, but I have limited access at my location. Thanks for all the help so far. Such a great helpful site.
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March 31, 2012 1:01:05 AM

Nvidia has better 3D support than AMD so you should get a GTX 680.
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March 31, 2012 1:02:31 AM

I was planning on that already. I like Nvidia more than AMD. Thanks for the info though, it was something I did not know.
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March 31, 2012 1:05:20 AM

With my very first build, I got the AMD one which was bad.
100% all the way with Nvidia. Evga is a well known and really good brand. I've got the GTX 580 which is nice and if I wanted to SLI down the road, I've got the option
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March 31, 2012 4:38:31 AM

Meisterdean said:
Wow, such speedy replies. I will also state that I meant to say 1920x1080 resolution. (I am kinda sleepy). Both of those builds look great from what I understand. One of the main things that I am concerned with (from reading other posts) is the cooling system. Should I do liquid cooling with any of these builds? Why or why not? Also, what are the problems you mention about the first build g-unit1111? Any help is much appreciated. This kind of things always gets me nervous.


No - liquid cooling is never a good idea - air is always safer. Liquid cooling is too much risk for not a lot of payoff.

My main problem with the first build is the use of the 2700K and the Vengeance RAM with the tall heat sinks. The 2700K is pretty worthless to begin with - it's just a 2600K with a slightly higher clock - the 2600K can be overclocked to speeds that are far faster and beyond, you're just throwing money away with the 2700K. And the tall heat sinks on the Vengeance RAM will not be good for any after market coolers you plan to install - the fans will run into them.

The other thing is if you're going Z68 spending $270 on a motherboard like the one proposed is never a good idea - put that money into getting the best GPU you can get - the motherboard doesn't do anything for framerates - it just tells the CPU how to communicate with the GPU. It's just something else where you're spending money needlessly. If you're going X79 though spending $300 on a motherboard makes slightly more sense because you're getting full functionality out of the whole CPU and GPU where with Z68 you will not use all the features a $270 motherboard provides.
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March 31, 2012 2:05:48 PM

Thanks serialkiller, but I was trying to stay from liquid cooling. Other than that, it looks like a solid build.
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March 31, 2012 2:14:20 PM

thats why i listed h100 which is closed liquid cooler.
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March 31, 2012 3:43:58 PM

The D14 Noctua cooler will perform the same as the H100 for a lot less.
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March 31, 2012 4:17:46 PM

I know just to increase asthetics and for bragging rights.

But i totally agree with azeem40
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March 31, 2012 6:48:27 PM

azeem40 said:
The D14 Noctua cooler will perform the same as the H100 for a lot less.


Yeah I'd go for a D14 over an H100 any day of the week - sure it's a huge heat sink but it's a hell of a lot safer than the H100 is.
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