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March 31, 2012 9:06:39 PM

Hi,

So im building a new system, this isnt my first time building or worling with pc's but it is my first time building a set that is made specifically for gaming. Baisically what i want to know is will these spec support the games skyrim, battlefield 3, and the old republic on 1600X900p OR EVENTUALLY 1080P on a single monitor.

Heres the specs ive gotten so far (have not ordered any parts yet so am open for different suggestions)

CPU: AMD Athlon II x3 455 Rana 3.3 GHZ triple core

MOTHERBOARD: Asus AM# AMD M4A87TD/USB AM3

Graphics: Asus EAH6870 dc 2di2s 1gd5 radeon hraphics card

Power: Antec 620 watt supply

Ram: 8gb ddr3 @1333mhz

OS: Windows 7 ultimate 64bit

Monitor: Acer S201HLBD BLACK 20" 5MS LED-BACKLIGHT LCD MONITOR 250 CD/M2 ACM 12,000,000:1 (1000:1) MAX RESOLUTION IS 1600X900

Chasis: Cougar evolution Black Secc Atx Full tower computer case with duel 12cm Cougar Turbine Hyper-Spin Bearing Silent Fans

All Landing me at around $450 because i already have power supply, ram, chsis, and os

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March 31, 2012 10:04:01 PM

You will be able to play all those games , but not ll on ultra high settings .

I would not choose those components .

If you are going AMD then only use AM3+ motherboards with the 970 or 990 series chip sets .
The Asrock 970 extreme 4 can even crossfire and SLI .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
But other cheaper boards work well if you will only use one graphics card .
For a processor the FX 4100 is stronger than your outdated Rana and can be overclocked to perform better than equivalent priced intel i3's.

2 x 2 gig of 1600 MHz RAM is a better choice IMO . Games cant use more . Just make sure its 1.5 volt or less .

The 6870 games well at 1080p Id probably buy the HIS . Quieter and usually cheaper .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 31, 2012 10:23:30 PM

Outlander_04 said:
You will be able to play all those games , but not ll on ultra high settings .

I would not choose those components .

If you are going AMD then only use AM3+ motherboards with the 970 or 990 series chip sets .
The Asrock 970 extreme 4 can even crossfire and SLI .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
But other cheaper boards work well if you will only use one graphics card .
For a processor the FX 4100 is stronger than your outdated Rana and can be overclocked to perform better than equivalent priced intel i3's.

2 x 2 gig of 1600 MHz RAM is a better choice IMO . Games cant use more . Just make sure its 1.5 volt or less .

The 6870 games well at 1080p Id probably buy the HIS . Quieter and usually cheaper .
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Below 8gb is a realy nad advice. Game cant use over 4gb but you still need to run ypu OS. AND AT The price of todays ram go for 2x4gb 1333hz. 1600 wont do anything for you. Also you want a quad core for these games. A 6870 is a nice cheap card but if you can afford an intel cpu it would be nice. For the same price tag even cheaper CPU intl win.

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March 31, 2012 10:53:28 PM

venur said:
Below 8gb is a realy nad advice. Game cant use over 4gb but you still need to run ypu OS. AND AT The price of todays ram go for 2x4gb 1333hz. 1600 wont do anything for you. Also you want a quad core for these games. A 6870 is a nice cheap card but if you can afford an intel cpu it would be nice. For the same price tag even cheaper CPU intl win.


Adding more than 4 gig will not improve gaming peformance at all . It could improve application performance marginally , but not in a way most people would notice .
For an intel build1600Mhz is cheap enough and gives you the option to OC memory clocks OR tighten timings . Both of these will give fractional performance gains in games and apps respectively
For an AMD AM3+ build you have native support for memory speeds up to 1866 Mhz , but 1600 MHz is a good compromise of speed vs value
So if you have a budget then 4 gig is enough and is excellent value .

Buying a more powerful processor could be good advice , but again, if there's a budget is pointless to recommend more than an FX 4100 quadcore
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March 31, 2012 11:03:43 PM

Outlander_04 said:
Adding more than 4 gig will not improve gaming peformance at all . It could improve application performance marginally , but not in a way most people would notice .
1600Mhz is cheap enough and gives you the option to OC memory clocks OR tighten timings . Both of these will give fractional performance gains in games and apps respectively
So if you have a budget then 4 gig is enough and is excellent value .

Buying a more powerful processor could be good advice , but again, if there's a budget is pointless to recommend more than an FX 4100 quadcore


I just wouldn't recommend FX on any build right now - a more powerful CPU in it's price range would be the i3-2120. And I would never recommend wasting money on Windows 7 Ultimate either - unless you're running the language packs or using the XP emulator you don't need it - put that money in the GPU.

I don't know what your maximum budget is but here's a build based around those components that would be far faster than any AMD based rig:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $59.99 ($10.00 MIR)
PSU: Corsair TX650 V2 - $89.99 ($15.00 MIR)
Motherboard: Asrock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 - $121.99
CPU: 3.1GHz Intel Core i5-2400 - $189.99
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB 1333MHz 1.5V - $42.99
HD: 500GB Western Digital Caviar Blue - $84.99
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner - $17.99
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 - $259.99
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium - $99.99

Total: $967.91 - $25.00 MIR = $942.91 ($842.91 without Windows)
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March 31, 2012 11:31:19 PM

The comparison on this site of the i3 2100 and FX 4100 at stock speeds showed they produced near enough identical fps in the kind of games the OP plays .
And then you can increase the FX's performance by 30 % or more with OCing .

The i5 2400 is a better processor than either , but whether or not its affordable is more likely to be the issue
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March 31, 2012 11:42:26 PM

Exactly. Is it me or does anyone else have a problem swallowing that i3 is basically a dual core at hear?

I've ALWAYS used amd chips. Always been great for me personally.
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April 1, 2012 12:59:25 AM

Outlander_04 said:
The comparison on this site of the i3 2100 and FX 4100 at stock speeds showed they produced near enough identical fps in the kind of games the OP plays .
And then you can increase the FX's performance by 30 % or more with OCing .

The i5 2400 is a better processor than either , but whether or not its affordable is more likely to be the issue


Yeah where the FX does benefit in that price range is that it has an unlocked multiplier. I'm really hoping that the next generation of AMD CPUs is good - this last batch was not, and if they're hoping for all the CPU instructions to rely on Windows rather than the BIOS like they did with FX I think it will continue to be a failure.

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Exactly. Is it me or does anyone else have a problem swallowing that i3 is basically a dual core at hear?


It does have fewer cores but Intel has engineered Sandy Bridge to where those cores are utilized in a far more efficient manner than the FX-8100's 8 cores are. The biggest problem with the FX is like I said - AMD relied on Windows 7 too much for the CPU's instructions where Intel puts them all on the CPU and the BIOS.
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April 1, 2012 2:34:28 AM

AMD fan here, Still using my PHII 555 BE, BUT..... I hate to say I would never recommended anything to a budget builder other then a 1155 build at this point, you can go from $45 to $320 on a CPU from Celeron to i7 which gives you INCREDABLE flexibility and upgrade paths. And as benchmarks from this site show even the Pentium G630 chip is nipping at the heels of AMDs top chip.

Build a nice 1155 PC, save on a CPU for now sink the extra money into a GPU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Intel Pentium G630 Sandy Bridge 2.7GHz LGA 1155 $79.99 (See chart below)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 $104.99 (12 dollars more then your pic of MoBo, But PCI-3.0 Z68 chipset socket 1155)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card $179.99
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April 1, 2012 5:37:26 AM

ok thank you so much for the input !!! ill see what i can put together!
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April 2, 2012 3:53:54 AM

Best answer selected by seankoa.
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