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AMD BUILD FOR $500-?

So i have decided that my gaming pc will be built solidly around amd mainly because there cheaper and can still give out close quality to Intel. Can someone help me decided on the components i should use for a $500 build (or less) the parts that i do not need are a monitor a chasis a power supply an os or ram because i already have more then capable parts of those available.

So Whats the best build i can get using only around $500 for AMD

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PROCESSOR: ?

MOTHERBOARD: ?

GRAPHICS CARD: ?

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  1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103923
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138341
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102986

    This is slightly over budget with the 7xxx video card. I recommend biostar over asus or asrock as I've never had a post issue due to ram; I like to be able to use whatever ram is on sale, and biostar doesn't disappoint. I also recommended the old phenom II over the newer bulldozer cores; not much difference in performance and once the phenom II's are sold out, they may hold their value just as well as the newer 6xxx cpus.
  2. Quote:
    So i have decided that my gaming pc will be built solidly around amd mainly because there cheaper and can still give out close quality to Intel.



    maybe... not so much.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120.html

    if you still think that AMD is best for you then o1die's picks are solid, though a little over budget. They also leave no room for a suitable cpu cooler to overclock.
  3. jerreddredd said:
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    So i have decided that my gaming pc will be built solidly around amd mainly because there cheaper and can still give out close quality to Intel.



    maybe... not so much.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120.html

    if you still think that AMD is best for you then o1die's picks are solid, though a little over budget. They also leave no room for a suitable cpu cooler to overclock.



    The Phenom II will do just fine. There is no practical difference between them. I say practical because considering movie theater quality is only 24 Frames per second, all these pretty benchmarks (like Just Cause 2 for example) showing the Phenom II 980 doing 66.3FPS and the i5 2400 doing 74.1 is merely a reference. The human eye simply cannot tell a difference. Therein lies the inherent problem with benchmarks.

    Also, the conclusion page assumes that the CPUs were more expensive at the time of writing, Phenom II has dropped in price since January. And, 2500k is not a sub-200 dollar CPU. Why is it even there?

    A competent CPU cooler is only 30-40 dollars more. Something that could be saved for later on, since its not a bad idea to use the CPU for a month or two at stock speeds to make sure it works good before you play with the overclock settings.
  4. PROCESSOR: ?

    try apu 3670k or 3870k whichever you want

    MOTHERBOARD: ?

    fm1 of asus or asrock

    GRAPHICS CARD: ?

    6770 (if you want to crossfire with your built in graphics but you can live without a gpu on a apu)
  5. Tavo_Nova said:
    PROCESSOR: ?

    try apu 3670k or 3870k whichever you want

    MOTHERBOARD: ?

    fm1 of asus or asrock

    GRAPHICS CARD: ?

    6770 (if you want to crossfire with your built in graphics but you can live without a gpu on a apu)


    Thats not a bad choice either for an extremely tight budget.

    Heres a build I recommended in another thread using llano and like you said, you can add another card.


    Motherboard- $65

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131813

    CPU + Graphics- $140
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819106001

    RAM- $46 8GB (4GB*2)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820148544

    Power- $45

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139026

    Windows 7 $100- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116986


    Total: $396

    Note: This price doesn't include a case, CD/DVD drive nor a hard drive (this figure assumes you reuse these.
  6. if you go with the a8 3870k(139.99$) or if you want go with 16 3670k(119.99$)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106001
    (A8 3870k)

    asrock mobo fm1
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157261

    sapphire 6770 (129.99$>119.99$) there are 2 of them get whichever you want same price
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102938

    if you want to go phenom II x4

    phenom II x4 975 be (139.99$)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103923

    ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 (84.99$)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280

    Sapphire HD 6850 (139.99$>124.99$) or if you want go with 6870
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908

    these 3 should world well, and if you ever game on it, you can play on high with really playable FPS

    and it's well below your budget
  7. Go with the phenom if you want a upgrade path.
    Going with a8 is for one time build.
  8. I think the FX 6100 is better than the x4 because they have the same price and the FX can OC like crazy and with a slight OC can reach i5 2500 K performance in games , but as pinted out earlier , 65 FPS and 75 FPS make no difference.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103962
    FX6100 check it out. 149$
  9. nekulturny said:
    Thats not a bad choice either for an extremely tight budget.

    Heres a build I recommended in another thread using llano and like you said, you can add another card.


    Motherboard- $65

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131813

    CPU + Graphics- $140
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819106001

    RAM- $46 8GB (4GB*2)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820148544

    Power- $45

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139026

    Windows 7 $100- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116986


    Total: $396

    Note: This price doesn't include a case, CD/DVD drive nor a hard drive (this figure assumes you reuse these.



    that's a very solid build even with an OS, if they were to add a hdd and case it's a good budget too,

    I built one couple of weeks ago since some people were saying apu is worse than i3 2100 and stuff even without a video card installed so I went around looking for info and seeing some vids on youtube as the apu was performing better (of course if you look at both not having a video card or if both were using the same video card 6770as using things higher than this is most likely irrelevant on an apu since the i3 2100 would perform better)


    I tried playing bf3 1920x1080 resolution on all low/off everything was really playable with the 6770 40fps .(well crossfire power)
    dirt 3 (played with high settings with 30-40fps 1080p)
    and results were similar with other games, (games I didn't try are metro 2033 I didn't have a cd available)

    results for the i3 2100 was lower in fps and graphics quality (using the on board one) 8-17fps on these games

    bf3,dirt 3, skyrim,

    then using the same gpu if course the performance increase but it's well below the apu in crossfire.

    but well if your planning on using a 7870 or something then go with the i3 2100 as you will milk out more performance with that
  10. If you go with the 2100 then you are better off with a FX4100 or FX6100 because they are unlocked and as the review if FX4100 with the i3 2100 shows that the i3 gets a few FPS like 5-6 more than Fx4100 but the point is FX can be OC but the i3 cannot be.
    So the FX 4100 wins and it is 20$ less than the i3.
  11. Best answer
    @TS

    well If you want to be efficient with your money I do advice to do not upgrade on your system (cpu cooler doesn't count on this if you want to replace your stock cooler or something) oh and (those that are like on a 1,000-1,500$ and above budget doesn't work well with this either)(and most likely gpu doesn't count but depending on the situation)


    let's say your going phenom II x4 using an am3+ mobo, if by change the new cpu for amd performs really well and on par to intel by any chances and they use am3+ socket then it's your lucky day and upgrade,but if it doesn't it's better to stay with your phenom.

    time skip

    2-3 years later, instead of salvaging some parts, it's better to build another budget gaming system and you want a better system, then just build another one.

    example:

    this build cost you 700 bucks, and it performs well on all games you play at 1080p

    2-3 years later, give it away to a girlfriend or your brother or sister or keep it in for lan party at your house or something.

    and then build another gaming system for 700 bucks, which within 2-3 years it cost you 1,400 bucks, and the new system performs well at 1080p on all games you play (this is if your gaming)(as i said if you want to be cost efficient on your money)

    compare it to this (this side is the type who has a deeper pocket and really loves eye candy and willing to pay premium for a boost in performance)

    build a 1,500 or 2,000 bucks system after 2-3 years build another 1,500 or 2,000 bucks system since going for the budget built will be a downgrade for this (normally but depends on how our technology goes up in the next years)

    so that 2nd build cost me 3,000 bucks or 4,000 bucks within 2-3 years time

    I do say that there are people who are a sucker to technology (I'm counted as one but only on PC and cameras)

    but of course there are also those people who pay 3,000$ on a system now and stick with it for the next 5 years and milking out as much performance as they can get before they build a new system.

    btw take not if your really the type who got a bank as his wallet then disregard my post. specially if you earn 20,000$ monthly or something along the line
  12. mitunchidamparam said:
    If you go with the 2100 then you are better off with a FX4100 or FX6100 because they are unlocked and as the review if FX4100 with the i3 2100 shows that the i3 gets a few FPS like 5-6 more than Fx4100 but the point is FX can be OC but the i3 cannot be.
    So the FX 4100 wins and it is 20$ less than the i3.



    I can vouch for that. I've seen on some overclocking and comparing event the last one i visited did some of these test.

    with overclocking the fx4100 or fx6100 it wins against the i3 2100 (gaming wise)

    but well people normally go for i3 2100 specially when they are using a p67/h67 or z68 mobo so they can upgrade in the future for the i5 2500k or the new i5 ivy.

    but gaming wise, like what was said above. 60fps is like lol, most people won't even notice it as most people would enjoy the game at 30fps and shoot people left and right

    as after that most lags or delays comes from your internet (this is proven by my retarded internet)


    you can see my system below any of those 2 I use to play bf3 multiplayer is awesome (but my internet sucks on 64 player map and for those who are really far in country)
  13. Tavo_Nova said:
    @TS

    well If you want to be efficient with your money I do advice to do not upgrade on your system (cpu cooler doesn't count on this if you want to replace your stock cooler or something) oh and (those that are like on a 1,000-1,500$ and above budget doesn't work well with this either)(and most likely gpu doesn't count but depending on the situation)


    let's say your going phenom II x4 using an am3+ mobo, if by change the new cpu for amd performs really well and on par to intel by any chances and they use am3+ socket then it's your lucky day and upgrade,but if it doesn't it's better to stay with your phenom.

    time skip

    2-3 years later, instead of salvaging some parts, it's better to build another budget gaming system and you want a better system, then just build another one.

    example:

    this build cost you 700 bucks, and it performs well on all games you play at 1080p

    2-3 years later, give it away to a girlfriend or your brother or sister or keep it in for lan party at your house or something.

    and then build another gaming system for 700 bucks, which within 2-3 years it cost you 1,400 bucks, and the new system performs well at 1080p on all games you play (this is if your gaming)(as i said if you want to be cost efficient on your money)

    compare it to this (this side is the type who has a deeper pocket and really loves eye candy and willing to pay premium for a boost in performance)

    build a 1,500 or 2,000 bucks system after 2-3 years build another 1,500 or 2,000 bucks system since going for the budget built will be a downgrade for this (normally but depends on how our technology goes up in the next years)

    so that 2nd build cost me 3,000 bucks or 4,000 bucks within 2-3 years time

    I do say that there are people who are a sucker to technology (I'm counted as one but only on PC and cameras)

    but of course there are also those people who pay 3,000$ on a system now and stick with it for the next 5 years and milking out as much performance as they can get before they build a new system.

    btw take not if your really the type who got a bank as his wallet then disregard my post. specially if you earn 20,000$ monthly or something along the line



    I agree with this, when I was 16 I was given a 3000 dollar Dell 8200 for my birthday, I ended up using this computer for 10 years. It was top of the line at the time it was new, Pentium 4, 256mb ram, Geforce 2 video card. In the 10 years, it would have been better performance-wise to just buy 3 computers that were cheaper during that time.

    I've learned the lesson now with the current build I have, I spent about 1100 on it. It does everything it needs to do today and I'm fairly certain for my uses I can get 3 good years out of it. And next time, I won't need to buy another 130 dollar case, or another 105 dollars on the power supply, or 190 between my two hard drives as I can reuse those.
  14. Heres a performance calculation I just of my computer and my significant others on Cinebench. Both of us have 16GB 1600 rated DDR3 RAM and Windows 7 Professional.

    My computer Phenom II 975 @4.0 w/ 550 TI factory oc'd
    CPU score- 4.59
    Open GL- 45.36FPS

    Significant other-
    i5-2300 @ 2.8GHZ w/ GTX 460
    CPU4.56
    Open GL- 42.81FPS

    i5-2300 costs $180 Phenom II 975 currently $140

    Just to cover the Intel vs AMD war that seems to bleed into every single thread. As you can see, horseshoes and hand grenades rules apply.
  15. [[[[I agree with this, when I was 16 I was given a 3000 dollar Dell 8200 for my birthday, I ended up using this computer for 10 years. It was top of the line at the time it was new, Pentium 4, 256mb ram, Geforce 2 video card. In the 10 years, it would have been better performance-wise to just buy 3 computers that were cheaper during that time.

    I've learned the lesson now with the current build I have, I spent about 1100 on it. It does everything it needs to do today and I'm fairly certain for my uses I can get 3 good years out of it. And next time, I won't need to buy another 130 dollar case, or another 105 dollars on the power supply, or 190 between my two hard drives as I can reuse those.]]]]


    I agree with you, actually that 3,000 dollar and if you were to build a 700-1000$ build and make good use of it for 3 years (9 years minimum with that 3,000 bucks,) 9 years of awesome usage, you can even salvage parts from your old setup and sell the others (extra budget) I really do advice this efficient money usage specially to those people seeking a bang for buck
  16. Best answer selected by seankoa.
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