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April 1, 2012 9:54:43 PM

Tower: RAIDMAX Quantum ATX-798WB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

CPU: AMD FX-6100 Zambezi (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

VID CARD: XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

Pwr Supplie: RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

HEATSINK: ZALMAN CNPS9500A-LED (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

Optical drive: LG 22X Super-Multi DVD (http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Sub...)

Thermal paste: ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

HDD Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

That is what i want to put together it has hit my price limit What i want is to make sure the WHOLE build is compatible with everthing and that im getting the most bang for my buck

This is a gaming PC and i plan to OC can my build OC ok?

any suggestions for any changes please let me know

***MY BENCHMARK GUIDE***
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

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April 1, 2012 10:04:05 PM

Get an i5 2500k(if overclocking get the 2500k) and ASRock Extreme3 Gen3. For heatsink, get the Hyper 212. For better performance, get the Hyper 212 EVO. Otherwise, good. Though, I reccomend waiting a bit for newer GPUs/CPus, so you can get the newer stuff or get the listed parts at a discount.
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April 1, 2012 10:21:37 PM

1. well if i went with intel I would have had to cut corners on other things :(  thats y i went with AMD plus on the benchmarking site i went to if you notice they have a CPU section and my 6core processor was a decent rank on the list

2. I thought all copper heatsinks were better? :l plus it has another LED my cpu is so preety xD

3. But i thought new GPU's/Cpu's are always coming out :l when do i actually buy? :(  been saving for months

not saying i wont listen juss asking :l
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April 1, 2012 10:23:04 PM

^What obsama1 meant to say was get an i5-2400 or an i5-2500k if you're overclocking. Hyper 212 is good enough. For overclocking, I'd suggest Extreme3 Gen3 as a mobo. I'd also switch out the video card for a GTX 560 Ti. But that's getting expensive.
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April 1, 2012 10:26:03 PM

Oh... Intel Ivy Bridge is coming out within 1-2 months (should be one), and GPUs are coming out at about the same time. Intel is really much better for a gaming build. I'd buy a cheaper case, and skip the overclocking. Then, you would have an i5-2400 as a CPU (or the IB equivalent when it comes out) with a cheap (about $50) mobo to go along. Then, you can scrap the heatsink since you're not overclocking.

EDIT: oh, and your optical drive link doesn't work. You need to make your cart public.
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April 1, 2012 10:48:21 PM

on the benchmark the i5 is 6,105 and the FX 6100 is 5,605 :l i dont feel it would warrant spending the extra 40$$ are your sure its the same when if i wanted a higher performing CPU the AMD FX-8120 is the same price as the i5 and its benchmark is 7,112 :l

Benchmarking site
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
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April 1, 2012 10:59:11 PM

In general, Intel is much, much better for gaming at the moment. Everything but the lowest-budget builds (meaning $300) have an Intel chip. Even an i3-2120 (or whatever the number is) is good enough (although dual-core). Benchmarks alone aren't all that matters ;) 
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April 1, 2012 11:09:31 PM

ok lol goshers so complex :l can someone point me to an article saying the difference between them so far i cant find anything clearly explaining i mean i know how to compare and contrast CPU's but yu guys say intel is better my question is WHY? lol
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April 1, 2012 11:54:11 PM

SB packs a lot of performance into a single core, so it's dual-core performance is much better than even 4 AMD cores.
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April 2, 2012 3:09:07 AM

I would wait until Ivy Bridge (the new generation of Intel processors) comes out. It'll be much better. As for the difference...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

Try searching next time... it was the first article under Articles >> CPUs called "Best Gaming CPUs For the Money". AMD only appears once, as a $100-ish processor. i3-2120 still is much better.
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April 2, 2012 3:12:20 AM

Mere speculation. Wait until it is out to say if it is much better.
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April 2, 2012 3:22:37 AM

I stand corrected. But I think we both agree that (at least for now) Intel is the way to go.
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April 2, 2012 3:25:27 AM

I am not trying to undermine your advice, but you really have to wait till these things are released to say whether or not they are better. I agree with you on that though. :) 
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April 2, 2012 4:09:39 AM

azeem40 said:
I am not trying to undermine your advice, but you really have to wait till these things are released to say whether or not they are better. I agree with you on that though. :) 


IB will be better than SB, that's not really speculation.
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April 2, 2012 4:14:38 AM

In power consumption and heat, but not in gaming performance.
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April 2, 2012 4:40:37 AM

Why has nobody warned OP about using a Raidmax PSU? You might as well just go burn some money in your driveway as use a offbrand crappy PSU.
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April 2, 2012 4:43:18 AM

Oops, forgot about that. The above is right. Stick with XFX, Seasonic, and most Corsair PSUs.
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April 2, 2012 4:45:11 AM

Tower: RAIDMAX Quantum ATX-798WB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... COOLER MASTER Elite 430 $49.99 (free shipping) -$20

MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 $104.99 (free shipping ) -$16

Or if you might want to SLI or Crossfire:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 $121.99 (7.87 Shipping)


CPU: AMD FX-6100 Zambezi http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $127.99 (free shipping) -$22

VID CARD: XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Good Choice

Power Supply: RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 $89.99 (free shipping) +$36.01 If you listen to NOTHING else we say at least get this. Your raidmax will most likely fail and when you buy a second $50 dollar PSU then your out $100 dollars, Thats if you got lucky and it didn't short out your other components

Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 $42.99 (free shipping) +$5

HEATSINK: ZALMAN CNPS9500A-LED http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical drive: LG 22X Super-Multi DVD http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Sub...

Instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (same one? Your link was Broken) -/+ $0

Thermal paste: ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Good Choice

HDD Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Good Choice

This build will beat yours on Most if not all games and save you $17 dollars. You can also save more if you swap to a Hyper 212+ Cooler, But hey that one matches your other LED's and the CM case that I showed you has a Huge window.

Check this benchmark out from this site. Then make up your mind.. Be sure to tell us how your new build goes.

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April 2, 2012 4:47:34 AM

PSU: Corsair TX650W or XFX Core650W.
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April 2, 2012 6:04:34 AM

I agree with almost everything AlderonnX said... except the memory/RAM. G.Skill does have better reviews on newegg, but that's just because it's popular. Why is it popular? It looks flashy. You are most likely not going to display your RAM (you're plugging it in), so why get that? Plus, it's worse... 1600vs1333. Crucial is also VERY well known for reliability. I have NEVER, nor have I ever known someone to have a failed Crucial RAM/SSD (although once... but they were very nice about exchanging it). This should be a no-brainer... Crucial 1600 > G.Skill 1333.

Although you may want to check the CAS latency of the Crucial. I couldn't find it on the newegg site, so do a little research. If it's 9 or lower, get the Crucial. If it's 11, then I see a small problem.

EDIT: Ah, and the Crucial is at a lower voltage.
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April 3, 2012 4:54:45 PM

Ok guys i decided to cancell my order you guys win :D  new benchmarks prove i5-2500k can be better in most situations and my upon reading more on power supplies became terrified of cheap PSU's considering doing an intel build but uncertain i really like the radeon hd 6870 because of all of the features at the price range and so far almost all the benchmarks i look at its rated pretty high again guys i cant pass my price range 820$ by one cent :(  [exaggerating but trying not to pass it as my original budget was 600 xD lol]

BUT as much as i hate considering this.... would prices really drop in about two months (april 29th because of the new CPU's coming out?) if so..... bout how much difference would it really make?

watta bout Graphics card someone on this site mentioned that they would also be coming out around the same time... would that drop the price of my radeon 6870?

what psu is recommended?

and last but not least..... should i start buying parts assuming that newegg has a ridiculous sale price?

BTW sorry for being a little impatient this is my first PC build n my current build has.... *sais in shame* Intergrated graphics... for the first time ive been able to save up money to build my own rig thats y i was going fancy with the LED lights sooooo purtty :D 

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April 3, 2012 5:02:49 PM

The 6870 isn't bad. However, you can get a GTX 460 for ~$100 that's inbetween a 6850 and 6870. It's about $60 cheaper, so you can get a better mobo/case/RAM/whatever. The prices will come down though.
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April 3, 2012 6:04:18 PM

New build???

ASrock extreme 3 gen 3(http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...) - for some odd reason when in the "cart" price is only 74.99 :l

Intel Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor -179.99( i know i cant believe it either new not refurbed) [http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...]

Corsair XMS 8GB - 29.99$ (98% chance ill change based on what ive read as long as i get reliable brand most memory is same and this is 1333 not 1600 :l but it is pretty cheap....)

corsair Builder Series 600 Watt ATX - 50$ (better or no?) [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...]

Samsung HDD - 92$(shipping included) {http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...}

LG DVD thing- 19$ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

RAIDMAX Quantum ATX-798WB $40 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 -9$ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

Heak sink- 40$ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)

total-?

sorry guys typing this as fast as possible im heading out the door :l


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April 3, 2012 7:36:23 PM

iactually there was a recent article here on TH that said tha the new fx 4170 (cant rememeber the number right correct me if im wrong) was on top of the amd chips but still bellow the i3's...sad since i love my old amd 9850 BE it lasted me untill recently that started to get slow with the new games(SWTOR) ..so it was time for a change. I wish the FX 4's and 6's where near the i5's and I probably would have gone that route if they where at least near the i5 2400.. the 8150 is near there but for that price just get the 2500k. and hope for the amd's of 2015.
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April 3, 2012 7:42:22 PM

lol yea my new build is at the bottom i cancelled my order BUT im asking if i should wait till the new intels and amd's come out on april 29? i mean i5 2500k is at an amazing price should i pass it up? :l
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April 3, 2012 8:56:11 PM

k guys i get it i ask too much :l but least answer this cause i dont want all my components to fry up is this

"corsair Builder Series 600 Watt ATX - 50$ (better or no?) [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...]"

sufficient and safe to power my stuff i know its still a 50$$ power supply but its the fancy brand yu guys suggested :l
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April 4, 2012 7:58:27 AM

sobeitx13 said:
k guys i get it i ask too much :l but least answer this cause i dont want all my components to fry up is this

"corsair Builder Series 600 Watt ATX - 50$ (better or no?) [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...]"

sufficient and safe to power my stuff i know its still a 50$$ power supply but its the fancy brand yu guys suggested :l



Yes, much better....That PSU will will last and keep you running smooth. :) 
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April 4, 2012 2:38:00 PM

sobeitx13 said:
lol yea my new build is at the bottom i cancelled my order BUT im asking if i should wait till the new intels and amd's come out on april 29? i mean i5 2500k is at an amazing price should i pass it up? :l



I know! I'm having the same problem! My birthday is May 3, so I want to have all my parts by then... but the IB is coming out April 29! It'll be close, and I never like to buy things the moment they come out. There might be problems, out of stock, etc. I'm also not sure if the pricing will be the same as the i5-2500k AS IS NOW (the IB version will be priced the same as the i5... but the original price of the i5?). So here's the basic list of stuff you consider:

Pros (Wait):
- Better power efficiency, which will eventually save you money
- Slightly better performance for the same price

Cons (Buy the i5-2500k):
- Probably a little cheaper right now
- Tested and true
- The IB is only a "tick" (or "tock"... it's the smaller one). That means that the boost is pretty small... NEXT generation will be a large improvement.
- You can buy now

Now... there are a bunch of cons (reasons to buy the i5-2500k). Don't look at the numbers, though. I'm probably going to wait for the IB, and if there're problems, I'll buy the i5-2500k as it probably goes way down in price. Look at what the reasons actually are. For example, the "little cheaper" is like $20 maximum (probably ;)  ). The "tested and true" might apply to the IB, since I don't know how much they are changing the architecture. Also, while the IB is only a small improvement, it's still an improvement.

That's all I've got XD
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August 4, 2012 8:34:33 PM

please email me: travisrandolph10@hotmail.com

quotemsg=2555608,3,1168764]1. well if i went with intel I would have had to cut corners on other things :(  thats y i went with AMD plus on the benchmarking site i went to if you notice they have a CPU section and my 6core processor was a decent rank on the list

2. I thought all copper heatsinks were better? :l plus it has another LED my cpu is so preety xD

3. But i thought new GPU's/Cpu's are always coming out :l when do i actually buy? :(  been saving for months

not saying i wont listen juss asking :l[/quotemsg]
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August 4, 2012 8:35:47 PM

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August 4, 2012 11:21:30 PM

i would really like it if sobeitx13 would please email me asap
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August 4, 2012 11:21:57 PM

travisrandolph10@hotmail.com
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