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April 3, 2012 7:13:23 PM

Making a new system this week. Looking to run games on high @ 1080p without having to upgrade for 2-3 years (without overclocking). Any pointers/advice are greatly appreciated!

CPU -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Note I already own the PSU and SSD (120gb is enough for me).

I'm not really looking to spend much more money, maybe $50; more if it's a significant upgrade.

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April 3, 2012 8:05:57 PM

replica145 said:
Making a new system this week. Looking to run games on high @ 1080p without having to upgrade for 2-3 years (without overclocking). Any pointers/advice are greatly appreciated!

CPU -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Note I already own the PSU and SSD (120gb is enough for me).

I'm not really looking to spend much more money, maybe $50; more if it's a significant upgrade.



Great processor, you cant go wrong with a 2500k, this cpu shouldn't be the bottleneck in 3 years time.

In terms of GPU, thats really going to be the most critical component. I have a 460 which isn't much slower then a 560, and right now, i can only get 40-70 frames per second in battlefield 3 on high quality. in 3 years i will not be able to achieve minimum 30 FPS on all new games. I recommend a 570 or even a 680 if you expect to be able to play decently on high quality on new games in 3 years time. The real important thing to consider is the amount of video memory, if you know your GPU processor is suffiencent, but look what happened with GTA IV , most cards prior had to play on medium or lower, not because of gpu power, but because of memory in most cases. i had a 8800gt at the time with 512 megs of memory, and i ran into this issue even though my card was not that old at the time. Basically if you want to save money in the long run, get the Flagship card and wait a long time until you upgrade, OR prepare to buy another card, perhaps a replacement, perhaps an additional to SLI.

Mobo, I have never liked asrock that much, although i did have a pretty solid board at one time that was cheap and was reliable and overclocked well. I have heard their overall quality has went up since going on their own. that board has all solid caps, which is absolutely necessary unless you want to buy a new motherboard or worse in 3 years time.

the memory is decent stuff, again, expect to put more in it in 3 years, i have 12 now, i would imagine by 3 years from now i will at least have 24. but I do use my computer as a workstation and at the moment i will utilize up to 10 gigs so its justified for me.

SSD, all of the sandforce 2281 drives have had their issues resolved, great news. the agility 3 is much like the rest. should work fine. I have an OCZ revodrive i've had for like a year+ and its been wroking great.

PSU, I can't stress this enough. Make sure this component is quality. The wattage, 630w continious, is fine for this system, and should even power a single gtx 680. For brand I recommend a Seasonic. You can buy them for a reasonable price and you know your getting quality. Make sure you read up on all the review sites that are made specifically for reviewing power supplies. find out who actually makes the rosewill model you have, find out if the maker of the PSU (it wont be rosewill likely) is it respected for its quality, or if it has a bad record. all this information is easily available if you look. For your next build, make PSU the most important element, you don't need to spend that much more to get quality, higher price for extra features like module cables sure but generally a excellent power supply can be had for decent about of money. i paid 99$ for a Corsair HX-650, and 169$ for a ax850, both units are made by seasonic, both are modular cable units, the later is 80+ Gold certified effiency.

You seem to have made overall fine choices in general, but your expectation of being able to play a game 3 years from now on high may not play out so well with that particular video card. You may want to consider an SLI path with a bigger PSU for later SLI usage, or consider upgrading the video card in the future again. will you be able to play at high with most games in 3 years ? likely yes but the performance wont be great, and some games may refuse to play that setting due to lack of graphics memory.

Anyhow best of luck with this one.
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April 3, 2012 8:10:44 PM

I agree with the top poster. I have a i5 2550k right now, and a GTX 560 Ti (it's factory, SLIGHTLY overclocked) and without overclocking I get 40-55fps in BF3. That is why I'm grabbing a GTX 680 ASAP. You don't have to go that far, but maybe upgrade from the 560, to a 570 Ti (is that in existence?) Or if you don't mind, a GTX 580 will not be a problem for you until 2016 early. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you are to ever SLI something, or xfire, plan on buying a new more beefy PSU. :/  (Corsair is GREAT!) I'd get a 800w.
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April 3, 2012 8:15:51 PM

Thanks for the responses. I honestly can't afford a 570 and not even close to a 580. Is the Ti or a switch to 6870 worth the extra money? I don't mind upgrading my card every 2 years but Im hoping to keep that as my only upgrade for a couple years.
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April 3, 2012 8:23:24 PM

If you are not overclocking, you could save money by going with the i5-2400 as well. Just food for thought.

Also, where's my puppy :( 
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April 3, 2012 8:34:10 PM

That's what I was going to get, but with no tax from Amazon it works out to about only $5 more to get the 2500K.

Puppies in the mail, sir!
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April 3, 2012 8:44:52 PM

For that price difference, I agree with the 2500k choice.

is it a brown one? :D 
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April 3, 2012 8:45:58 PM

Periwinkle blue of course.
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April 3, 2012 8:46:07 PM

If a Microcenter store is nearby, you can save money by buying CPU + Motherboard combo. Even with tax, the combo price is still cheaper than Amazon and Newegg. And they are not quality-cheap products.

For GPU, what about 560 Ti 448 cores? The price went down, and according to many benchmarks, performance is comparable to 570 and 580, depending on brand and overclocking. My EVGA Classified runs Skyrim 60FPS with Ultra setting. I think it can run even faster, but it seems that there is a built-in VSync setting in the game.
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April 3, 2012 8:57:14 PM

560ti 448 core is still an excellent card.
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April 3, 2012 9:06:02 PM

Looks good from my POV as well. Double check to make sure you have a case that will fit everything and OS to put on it.

If you ever want to sli or crossfire later on, you might want to spend an extra $20 on the mobo for one that has 2 pcie 3.0 slots. This one is basically identical to yours, but with an additional pcie 3.0 slot: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155

I have to agree strongly with the psu comment above. Get one manufactured by seasonic. corsair, antec (depending on manufacturer), OCZ, etc are usually well trusted brands.
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April 3, 2012 9:07:28 PM

I would get XFX above all others besides Seasonic.
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April 4, 2012 6:11:31 PM

I was trying to make the same decision for a few weeks, and decided to go with the 7850 last week. I got it in my system Friday and it was excellent, but it is really up to preference. The 7850 is newer, and uses significantly less power, but is fairly similar performance wise.

Also, how long are you willing to wait for a new video card? The intel3000 can support graphics on that res with the z68 mobo, but you wont get any demanding games running on it (skyrim on low is barely playable @1920x1080, shogun 2 got 8fps on lowest @same res - I have the mobo I had linked to, the 2500k, and the sapphire 7850). Windows 7 UI is very fluid with just a 3000, as well as streaming HD video, just the compute power of it is lacking. The new kepler cards *should* come out later this month, and in a few months the prices of amd's 7000 series could potentially drop.
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April 4, 2012 6:17:22 PM

replica145 said:
Decided to wait a month and save a little. Torn between these two cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks for all the responses so far.



If you are going to buy 448 core, this is the best choice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mine is Classified and I have zero issue with this card, and after 4 moths of playing Batman, Crysis 2, CIV 5, and Skyrim @ the highest setting on 1080p, I still believe this is the best purchase among all the parts in my build. Classified Ultra is basically the same with a little bit more on overclock.
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