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April 3, 2012 9:58:08 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Sometime in the next week or two. Hoping to have it all done and be gaming by at least the end up April. Been prolonging this long enough. But I am willing to wait if some of you think I should for new tech to release. Just not too long.

Budget Range $1300-1900 Cdn max before rebates. My cash to put towards it right away is about $1400 but I could flex another $500 or so if it's worth it. :pfff: 

I'm pretty raw when it comes to this stuff but I know this is the best route and I guess when I leave a margin like that I just want something that is going to be extremely powerful and have good longevity. I want it to run any game I want in HD or 3D flawlessly, fast, and last a pretty long time. I'm ok with upgrading things and spending what I have to to keep this thing running like a beast. But obviously I want it to be one hell of a rig for the next 4-5 years or however long it can run the games I play. The system I'm on now must be at least 10 years old and is used pretty much just for downloading and browsing and can't handle any good games outside of WoW, and shoddily at that.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: GAMING, torrenting, surfing, watching movies etc, photoshop, music,

Parts Not Required: I'll be gaming on my TV so no monitor. I have a decent keyboard and mouse but if budget allows I'm up for upgrading and I have a decent speaker system. I also have a 1TB portable hard drive and a 2TB portable hardrive with USB 3.0 for all my movies, music, and shows. So I don't need much storage space.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: ncix.com probably or amazon...whichever would have the best shipping and canadian prices I guess. I just want everything to get here safe, sound and working.

Country: I live in far northern Canada

Parts Preferences: From my experience and what I've been reading recently it's Intel everything, Radeon card, Crucial SSD, Samsung, ASUS, but open to knowledge and experience.

Overclocking: Most likely once I learn more about it. I don't have too much help in my vicinity. A few people for advice but as far as building it and knowledge on overclocking...I'd be going off internet sage advice and a close friend.

SLI or Crossfire: Um sure? Need some more knowledge here.

Monitor Resolution: I'll be gaming almost exclusively using my Samsung 51 inch 1080p 3d TV. I figure it's pretty big and awesome so why not take advantage of that. Not too sure what resolution I'd be at? 1920x1080?

Additional Comments: A quiet PC would be nice but not crucial. A great cooling system and obviously amazing video card would be crucial I would think. Also....I do smoke....so a fan that doesn't really care if I smoke would be great too. Basically...this should be the Don Draper of gaming PCs.


I'm just putting together my list now so it'll be short to begin with and open to any suggestions and I will update the OP often. Again...I'm pretty new at this but willing to learn.


Case: Something big, easy, and cool, temperature and looks. Pretty sold on: Zalman Z11 Plus Mid Tower ATX Case Black 4X5.25 1X3.5 5X3.5INT No PS Front USB3.0 & Audio
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=69199


Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


ASUS P8Z77 ? http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z7...

or
ASRock Fatal1ty Z77 Professional or Performance boards? http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPa...


CPU: i5-3570K Ivy Bridge http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626/ivy-bridge-preview-c... http://pcper.com/news/Processors/Intel-Ivy-Bridge-Proce...


CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366/1155/1156/2011 120MM http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC0554&v...

Coolermaster Blade Master 120 Black 120MM PWM Case Fan 600-2000RPM 21.2-76.8CFM http://www.directcanada.com/produc [...] OLERMASTER $8.05


GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 1006MHZ 2GB 6GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI DisplayPort HDMI PCI-E 3.0 Video Card http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11610BD4900&v...

or

EVGA GeForce GTX 680 SUPERCLOCKED+ 1058MHZ 2GB 6.2GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI DisplayPort HDMI PCI-E http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=70295&promoi...

A little much? Open to downgrading. Also open to going with dual gpus

Memory: G.SKILL F3-17000CL11Q-16GBZL Ripjawsz 16GB 4X4GB DDR3-2133 CL11-11-11-30 Sandy Bridge E Memory Kit http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=65665&vpn=F3%2D17000C...

or

G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD5211&v...


PSU: XFX 850W PRO850W XXX Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 70A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply 80PLUS Silver http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC8651&v...


SSD: Crucial M4 SSD Micron C400 128GB 2.5IN Solid State Disk Flash Drive SATA3 6Gbps http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445&vpn=CT128M4SSD2&man...


HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB Sata 6GBPS 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive - Oem http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14120DR5445&v...


Blu Ray Drive: LG BH12LS38 12X Blu Ray Rewriter SATA Black Lightscribe 3D Playback http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62879&vpn=BH12LS38&manufa...

or ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&v...


SATA cables? hopefully included with boards


OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT SP1 DVD OEM http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271



Amidoingitrite? lol

My total isn't really calculated yet but this is my first try at a list and once again, I'm open to any and all changes. And that was without a case, mouse, keyboard....and whatever else I missed. I appreciate any and all help with this and will be taking my time making cool, calculated decisions building my future. If we build it. They will come. :D 
April 3, 2012 10:00:16 PM

Your setup is excellent. There is nothing I'd change!
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April 3, 2012 10:07:15 PM

That build looks really solid - if you want case suggestions I'd definitely offer a few but that depends if you want mid or full tower.
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April 3, 2012 10:08:22 PM

The Hyper 212 EVO comes with great thermal compound pre-applied.
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April 3, 2012 10:14:26 PM

Ivy Bridge is due out April 29th.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPa... <----- Z77 boards already for sale in Australia. In the past few years the Aussies have been getting the goodies a month ahead of the US and Canada including Sandy Bridge and the 1155 boards. The Aussies have already pulled some of the 1155 Cougar Point boards (H61/H67/P67/Z68) from their site. In fact a lot of those boards are no longer for sale on that site compared to last month.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5166/ivy-bridge-overview <----- Line-up of Ivy Bridge desktop cpu's to date.

Z77/Z75 motherboards (Panther Point chipset w/native USB 3.0) and PCI-E 3.0

http://www.asrock.com/microsite/PCIe3/overview.html <----- Quick and brief rundown of Ivy Bridge, PCI-E 3.0 cards and the new gen boards.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp?s=1155 <---- Asrocks Z77 and Z75 boards to date. They all get released with Ivy Bridge.

http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/Inte... <---- Asus Z77 board lineup to date.

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/list.aspx?s=42&jid=2&p=... <----- Gigabyte Z77 board lineup to date.

http://us.msi.com/product/mb/#/?sk=Socket%201155%20(Intel%20i3/i5/i7) <----- MSI Z77 board lineup to date.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626/ivy-bridge-preview-c... <---- Ivy Bridge cpu review with benchmarks



http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-overclock... <----- Overclocking the gtx 680 w/benchmarks




FREE SHIPPING!!! These retailers are affiliated and both offer free shipping. They are located in Richmond, BC.

http://www.directcanada.com

http://www.bestdirect.ca

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC6196&v... $113.56
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid-Tower Gaming Case ATX 4X5.25 6X3.5INT USB 1394 No PS Black

This psu down below is manufactured by Seasonic as are all XFX and mid and upper tier Corsair psu's.

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15180AC8651&v... $135.65
XFX 850W PRO850W XXX Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 70A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply 80PLUS Silver

gtx 680 of course....

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11610BD4900&v... $497.71
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 1006MHZ 2GB 6GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI DisplayPort HDMI PCI-E 3.0 Video Card

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extre... $160 CAD +/- $10
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5166/ivy-bridge-overview $215 CAD should be a close guesstimate
Intel i5-3570K Ivy Bridge CPU 3.4Ghz

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC0554&v... $27.69
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366/1155/1156/2011 120MM

That cooler up above is set up to add this fan to it for a "push - pull" affect to bring the temps down even more...

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC6691&v... $8.05
Coolermaster Blade Master 120 Black 120MM PWM Case Fan 600-2000RPM 21.2-76.8CFM

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15380BD5211&v... $48.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&v... $17.69
ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14120DR5445&v... $111.30
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB Sata 6GBPS 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive - Oem

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=30170DR2160&v... $126.45
Mushkin Chronos 120GB 2.5IN SATA3 Sandforce SF-2281 SSD Solid State Disk Flash Drive

http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/GFC-02050/MICR... $109.20
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT SP1 DVD OEM

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <---- a better look at that case
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April 3, 2012 10:16:18 PM

azeem40 said:
The Hyper 212 EVO comes with great thermal compound pre-applied.


It's not pre-applied - but it does come with an excellent non-conductive compound.
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April 3, 2012 10:17:02 PM

I would be cool with a full or medium case, but a bigger one I guess would be easier to work with? You guys are really the first people I'm coming to with this so put yourself in my shoes :sol: 

Azeem: That's awesome. Problem solved. And is that HDD too much considering I have 3 TB of portables? Mobo suggestions?
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April 3, 2012 10:19:14 PM

Then don't get an HDD and spend the difference on a high-priced case. :) 
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April 3, 2012 10:20:01 PM

I live in Alaska so I know about shipping to remote locations and what a problem it can be at times.

The bigger question is, do you want to buy now for yesterdays technology or wait a few weeks for Ivy Bridge and what it brings to the table including PCI-E 3.0 seeing how it's the replacement for Sandy Bridge ?

I mean it's your $1,900
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April 3, 2012 10:30:09 PM

No you're absolutely right. I did some reading up on the Ivy Bridge yesterday. I'm up for the wait, like I said if it's worth it. I'll have to take a closer look at your suggestions and thanks very much for the input people. I'll update my build accordingly. Keep the suggestions coming. I'll do some more reading after work.

Also, I live in the Northwest Territories. Pretty close to you Why_Me
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April 3, 2012 10:32:54 PM

Con's for Ivy Bridge
-New tech, never know what problems you can encounter (remember SB release)
-Waiting game (if you always wait you'll never buy)
-You will pay for the marginal increase in performance (~10%)

Pros
-z77 boards onboard wireless/virtu feature.

With i5 2500k you know what your getting and do not have to wait a month.

3.0 is on Sandy Bridge as well, Ivy bridge apparently increases it usage though. Which again is very maginal / non exsistant because games do not utilized it yet.

*My recommendations to the OP are:
-Go with nvidia 680 unless your feel like paying $50 more for a card that gets beat by the 680. Sure Sli its pretty even but drivers and support is much better on nvidia's side.

-Stay with 750watt psu since you only have 1 monitor and only need 1 good gpu for your monitor resolution.

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April 3, 2012 10:34:06 PM

Actually, IB will be able to saturate PCIe 3.0 completely whereas SB does not even fully saturate PCIe 2.0.
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April 3, 2012 10:34:38 PM

Gbay31 said:
Approximate Purchase Date: Sometime in the next week or two. Hoping to have it all done and be gaming by at least the end up April. Been prolonging this long enough. But I am willing to wait if some of you think I should for new tech to release. Just not too long.


A lot has been mentioned here already, but I would like to say a few things.

1) Asus makes fine motherboards, something like a z68 chipset model would work well for your build.

2) if your using a 128gig drive for booting, that means all or most of your games will be loaded onto your western digital green drive, which is great an an archival drive, or just to watch movies or other content on, but you will likely be the last person to join a Battlefield 3 game which is a slight disadvantage, i reccommend going with a faster more capable secondary drive, or a larger ssd for installing games onto.

3 you shouldn't need to buy sata cables. my asus sabertooth x58 came with locking sata 3 cables and non locking sata 2 cables. if you specifically want locking ones and your motherboard doesn't come with them for sure, or maybe you want the cables to be yellow, the common cheap ones are red. Asus often ships black ones with their enthusiast level boards.
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April 3, 2012 10:35:40 PM

Gbay31 said:
No you're absolutely right. I did some reading up on the Ivy Bridge yesterday. I'm up for the wait, like I said if it's worth it. I'll have to take a closer look at your suggestions and thanks very much for the input people. I'll update my build accordingly. Keep the suggestions coming. I'll do some more reading after work.

Also, I live in the Northwest Territories. Pretty close to you Why_Me

My mum's family is from YT...right above White Horse. But ya, click those links I posted. The PCCASEGEAR link to all those boards. That link used to be full of Z68 and P67 boards just a few weeks ago and now it's full of Z77 boards...and for good reason. In fact nobody on here should be suggesting anything but an Ivy Bridge build with your budget.
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April 3, 2012 10:40:23 PM

hotthree said:
Con's for Ivy Bridge
-New tech, never know what problems you can encounter (remember SB release)
-Waiting game (if you always wait you'll never buy)
-You will pay for the marginal increase in performance (~10%)

Pros
-z77 boards onboard wireless/virtu feature.

With i5 2500k you know what your getting and do not have to wait a month.

3.0 is on Sandy Bridge as well, Ivy bridge apparently increases it usage though. Which again is very maginal / non exsistant because games do not utilized it yet.

Your are so mistaken. Only Ivy Bridge cpu's allow for PCI-E 3.0. Only those cpu's and none other. 1155 Z68 Gen3 boards allow for PCI-E 3.0 but only if your using an Ivy Bridge cpu and new generation card (AMD 7XXX or Nvidia Kepler).
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April 3, 2012 10:42:32 PM

IB provides full support for PCIe 3.0. That doesn't mean SB doesn't provide support for 3.0; it just means it won't be fully saturated for years to come.
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April 3, 2012 10:46:27 PM

azeem40 said:
IB provides full support for PCIe 3.0. That doesn't mean SB doesn't provide support for 3.0; it just means it won't be fully saturated for years to come.

Here let me explain it to you...which I shouldn't have to be doing right now for someone who chooses to give support on here..

Sandy Bridge does not support PCI-E 3.0. Only Ivy Bridge does. You have google right? I mean your telling me that Sandy Bridge supports PCI-E 3.0 ???

I mean where do you get your info? Better yet provide a link to show us all here how Sandy Bridge supports PCI-E 3.0. I'm dying to see that link.
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April 3, 2012 10:50:15 PM

I am not going to answer until you get off your knowledge-filled high horse. Just because you know alot doesn't mean you can go around making people feel like an idiot. You are NOT the only knowledgeable one here. You are ONE of them, so stop acting like you're so tough.
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April 3, 2012 10:52:22 PM

Ok so from what I gather so far, again I'll get into this alot more after work (POS internet here). Z77 board to go with an Ivy Bridge CPU. I have no qualms with waiting for the Ivy bridge IF it's out around the 29th. Kepler video card? I'm assuming it releases when the IB does?

Could we elaborate a little more on a better HDD or larger SSD for load times or w/e in gaming? Obviously I want it to be as fast as my budget can allow. As for the SATA cables I guess I just didn't know better. I could care less what color they are or whatever. If the product comes with them then axe it.


Why-Me: haha I'm in YK NWT.
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April 3, 2012 10:53:56 PM

128GB is perfectly fine to fit a handful of games.
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April 3, 2012 10:56:17 PM

Gbay31 said:
Ok so from what I gather so far, again I'll get into this alot more after work (POS internet here). 1155 Z68 Gen3 board to go with an Ivy Bridge CPU. I have no qualms with waiting for the Ivy bridge IF it's out around the 29th. Kepler video card? I'm assuming it releases when the IB does?

Could we elaborate a little more on a better HDD or larger SSD for load times or w/e in gaming? Obviously I want it to be as fast as my budget can allow. As for the SATA cables I guess I just didn't know better. I could care less what color they are or whatever. If the product comes with them then axe it.


Why-Me: haha I'm in YK NWT.

All the AMD new generation cards (AMD 7xxx series) have been released and are on the shelves. Those cards are PCI-E 3.0 good to go cards. Nvidia on the other hand has only released the gtx 680 to date and those got bought up the first week and now everyone is waiting for the retailers to stock up on them again. They sold quick like.
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April 3, 2012 10:59:50 PM

I should be able to get my hands on the gtx 680 by the time the Ivy Bridge is out no? Will it be best for overclocking? and so I am clear. Z77 Motherboard is the best choice here?
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April 3, 2012 11:00:22 PM

azeem40 said:
I am not going to answer until you get off your knowledge-filled high horse. Just because you know alot doesn't mean you can go around making people feel like an idiot. You are NOT the only knowledgeable one here. You are ONE of them, so stop acting like you're so tough.

Look I'm not trying to be a dick on here, but you have to stop giving people on here bad info. I mean the OP is about to shell out $1,900 of his hard earned money and your telling him stuff like Sandy Bridge supports PCI-E 3.0 . So what would happen if the OP took your word for that? He would end up being screwed on false info that you gave him. I'l try and be nice from now on, but you need to start doing your homework or better yet refrain from posting about something your not sure about until you look up the info. That way nobody on here ends up buying something that's not what they thought it would be. :) 
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April 3, 2012 11:03:09 PM

Gbay31 said:
I should be able to get my hands on the gtx 680 by the time the Ivy Bridge is out no? Will it be best for overclocking? and so I am clear. Z77 Motherboard is the best choice here?

Yes to both. But man you have to keep checking whatever site you plan on purchasing because if it's anything like Sandy Bridge it's going to be a pain in the arse. Everyone and their brother is going to have their hand on the mouse waiting to click "buy now" when it hits those sites. It was so bad on newegg when SB came out last year that the site actually slowed down because of the traffic.
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April 3, 2012 11:04:33 PM

I appreciate the input regardless. The more good minds the better is how I'm going to build myself a great, top of the line machine with great new tech and longevity. I am pretty much sold on waiting for the Ivy bridge if it truly is going to be the best for my future, and budget.
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April 3, 2012 11:07:49 PM

azeem40 said:
128GB is perfectly fine to fit a handful of games.


and Windows for boot up speed?


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April 3, 2012 11:13:45 PM

Gbay31 said:
I appreciate the input regardless. The more good minds the better is how I'm going to build myself a great, top of the line machine with great new tech and longevity. I am pretty much sold on waiting for the Ivy bridge if it truly is going to be the best for my future, and budget.

I don't think there will be much difference in price for Ivy Bridge cpu's vs Sandy Bridge cpu's. In fact Ivy should be cheaper I would think seeing how it's manufactured on a smaller 22nm die. The Nvidia gtx 680's that just came out are the same price as the gtx 580's when they were released and the gtx 680 blows the gtx 580 away in spades and then some. That and it uses way less juice and runs a lot cooler.

Also looking at the Oz site, the Z77 boards actually came in a few dollars cheaper than the older Z68 boards on average.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPa... <---- check that link out. The Aussies pay a few more bucks for their boards than we do here, but that gives you a good idea of what where going to be paying here. Those are the new Z77 Ivy Bridge boards.
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April 3, 2012 11:43:55 PM

azeem40 said:
Actually, IB will be able to saturate PCIe 3.0 completely whereas SB does not even fully saturate PCIe 2.0.


Yes Ivy Bridge will utilize PCIe 3.0. But it won't be needed and won't improve your graphic/gaming performance much/if at all. The problem is with games. No games are demanding enough to cause us to need PCIe 3.0. Its a gimmick as it stands until more demanding games come out.

2.0 is barely used at its fullest potential atm.

And as for Ivy Bridge. Yes if he can wait (which he said) then he should go with IB. Although it will not oc as well as i5 2500k. I still will not be surprised if SB oc's better and performs evenly across the board with IB.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4618/ivy_bridge_previ...

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4618/ivy_bridge_previ...

Feel free to look at the 2 reviews above...If you notice SB 2600k can outperform both the i5 and i7 IB when it comes to overclocking.

I wish they had thrown in the i5 2500k but they did not. My guess is that it would be a very very slight downgrade from the IB line.

If I was making this purchase. I still go for i5 2500k then save the money from that and put toward upgrading to Haswell next year. Or, a new monitor because I wonder if your tv has 4:4:4 sampling. I would never game on a tv personally monitors have a much faster response time.
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April 3, 2012 11:46:53 PM

I also said SB doesn't fully utilize 2.0.
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April 3, 2012 11:53:44 PM

This is all great input. Thanks alot guys. I've updated the OP a bit. But the IB still seems like the best bet if it's only a bit more than SB.
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April 3, 2012 11:57:30 PM

Gbay31 said:
I would be cool with a full or medium case, but a bigger one I guess would be easier to work with? You guys are really the first people I'm coming to with this so put yourself in my shoes :sol: 

Azeem: That's awesome. Problem solved. And is that HDD too much considering I have 3 TB of portables? Mobo suggestions?


Even though that's fine - I'm always a fan of bigger mid-towers (like the Graphite 600T or NZXT Phantom) as opposed to a full blown full tower like the Rosewill Thor, Antec DF-85, or Fractal Design Define XL. The thing is unless you're running a board that big you don't need a case that big and if you use standard ATX you'll never need all that space and it won't fit under most desks.

Here's a few higher end cases I like:

- Antec 1100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Corsair Carbide 500R: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Fractal Design Arc MIDI: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Azza Hurrican 2000: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- NZXT Phantom: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Cooler Master HAF 932: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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April 4, 2012 12:00:40 AM

Either do graphics cards (fully use 2.0/3.0 that is)...So again it shouldn't be a decision (convincing point) maker is all im saying even though it comes on all the boards anyways.
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April 4, 2012 12:05:09 AM

hotthree said:
Or, a new monitor because I wonder if your tv has 4:4:4 sampling. I would never game on a tv personally monitors have a much faster response time.


Could you guys elaborate a little more on this? I was actually pretty excited to use my TV for Civ 5, WoW, Diablo3 and watching shows etc. I don't really know how to check if it has 4:4:4 sampling or if it would be just a better choice to buy a new monitor.

Pretty sure this is the model but I could find out for sure. Mine is 1080p and this one is 720p I think: 51" Class (51.0" Diag.) Plasma 490 Series TV http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/PN51D490A1DXZA
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April 4, 2012 12:06:57 AM

Gbay31 said:
Could you guys elaborate a little more on this? I was actually pretty excited to use my TV for Civ 5, WoW, Diablo3 and watching shows etc. I don't really know how to check if it has 4:4:4 sampling or if it would be just a better choice to buy a new monitor.

Pretty sure this is the model but I could find out for sure. Mine is 1080p and this one is 720p I think: 51" Class (51.0" Diag.) Plasma 490 Series TV http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/PN51D490A1DXZA


I will tell you I play Civ V *A LOT* and playing it on a 42" monitor isn't fun and hurts your neck after a while. Even with a wireless keyboard and mouse.
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April 4, 2012 12:11:01 AM

I play all my games on it. PS3 etc. I have alot of space and could probably do a pretty comfortable setup. The height of my tv is pretty good, It wouldn't be much of a neck issue but I don't really know.
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April 4, 2012 12:15:06 AM

Gbay31 said:
I play all my games on it. PS3 etc. I have alot of space and could probably do a pretty comfortable setup. The height of my tv is pretty good, It wouldn't be much of a neck issue but I don't really know.


Well playing games with a controller or keyboard with a long cord is one thing - my wireless keyboard has limited range (kind of defeats the purpose of wireless :lol:  ) and when I play Civ V I'm usually sitting about 20" from my TV. :lol: 
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April 4, 2012 12:21:29 AM

Gbay31 said:
I play all my games on it. PS3 etc. I have alot of space and could probably do a pretty comfortable setup. The height of my tv is pretty good, It wouldn't be much of a neck issue but I don't really know.


Also remember input lag won't have as much of a presence on rpg type games as it will in FPS games for tv gaming. And the sampling only has to deal with pc > tv, not console > tv.
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April 4, 2012 12:25:30 AM

Hmmm, I wonder if it will be a better idea for my budget to get a good monitor. But I still really like the idea of gaming on that TV or maybe using both.
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April 4, 2012 12:29:02 AM

Gbay31 said:
Hmmm, I wonder if it will be a better idea for my budget to get a good monitor. But I still really like the idea of gaming on that TV or maybe using both.


Feel free to try your tv first. You may still enjoy it since I do not know what games you'll be playing etc. Monitor can always be bought later if Tv does not work out.
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April 4, 2012 8:23:46 AM

Ok so I've updated the OP with what I think would be the best parts. If you guys could review it one last time that would be great. Is the cooling system great? Is everything compatible? Also I will be burning discs and hopefully blurays. Would I need 2 disc drives or just one 3d bluray player/writer?. Also I have a decent monitor now to go along with my TV and I have plans on purchasing a Nvidia 3d monitor in the near future to up the capabilities to 3 screens. Will my current PSU support that? Could/Should I go dual 680s GPUs in the future?

Also I chose this case. Antec Nine Hundred Two V3 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I hope this case is big enough and easy enough to manage for me. It looks like it will have an adequate amount of fans and glowy coolness. Thoughts?

A few more suggestions and I'll close this thing out, G'night gents and thanks for all the great input today
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April 4, 2012 8:37:07 AM

I still haven't budgeted all this, it's been a long day and I'll do it tomorrow minus the stuff that releases April 29th which apparently isn't going to be a huge jump in price. Hopefully it's all still going to be under $2000 cdn. Again, thanks for any and all input people.
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April 4, 2012 2:18:49 PM

PSU will do w/e you need it to as long as you only use 2 video cards at most.

Stay with Asus mobo. And the cooler 212 is the best price to performance cooler on the market atm. It'll work fine.
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April 4, 2012 3:15:26 PM

Gbay31 said:
I still haven't budgeted all this, it's been a long day and I'll do it tomorrow minus the stuff that releases April 29th which apparently isn't going to be a huge jump in price. Hopefully it's all still going to be under $2000 cdn. Again, thanks for any and all input people.

http://pcper.com/news/Processors/Intel-Ivy-Bridge-Proce... <----- Here's a price run down of the Ivy Bridge cpu's in $USD
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April 5, 2012 6:46:53 AM

A lot of great feedback here guys and I appreciate all of it. Looks like I have a pretty beastly rig going here. Can't wait to start ordering parts!
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April 5, 2012 6:48:06 AM

Best answer selected by Gbay31.
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