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July 17, 2012 3:26:13 PM

Hey guys here is my system at the moment... I have been doing major upgrades and ill put next to the new parts what I used to have.

CPU: Phenom II X4 945
Mobo: ASRock 970 Extreme3 (ASUS Evo-M Board... Crapped Out)
GPU: EVGA GTX 480 (GTS 250)
Memory: 8 GB G.Skill Sniper Series - 2133 (4x2gb 1333mhz Assorted brands)
Heatsink: Hyper 212 Plus (945 Stock Cooling)
PSU: Antec Earthwatts 650w (ORION 585w Generic PSU)
Case: NZXT M59 (Generic Voyager)
Ventilation: 5 Case Fans... (Added 3)
HDD: WD 500gb Standard HD


So as you see I have upgraded everything except for HDD and CPU. I am currently being bottle necked by my CPU and I have my Motherboard Eligible for a Return by the end of the day! So This needs to be quick!

I realllllllly am trying to stop the spending, but here is what I have found: Microcenter has a sale on a
Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 for $159.99. And If I RMA Board, Ill receive $80. And I want to stay as cheap as possible while retaining quality for a motherboard. I HAVE the cash...but dont want to spend more than necessary. What Does everyone think? Smart purchase? Or should I go with another Intel Processor?

Please Hurry I have a strict deadline!

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July 17, 2012 4:47:32 PM

If you are just using that computer for gaming then I really don't think that you'll see a $150 improvement by going with that 2500K.

I could be totally wrong, but I don't think that CPU is bottlenecking you, or at least not to any real noticeable amount. If it is, then you have an aftermarket cooler so you could always overclock a bit.

If I was in your shoes, I would just hold on until the new Piledriver chips come out in October. They are using the same socket as Bulldozer so you should be able to plop one into your motherboard after a bios update. That'll give you a nice performance upgrade without spending a lot of money.
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July 17, 2012 4:56:52 PM

Nah I play Blizzard games which are very CPU Intensive, Im being bottlenecked quite a bit, and on top of that AMD just does not do well In blizzard games.

Benchmarks Show an FX-8150 pulls 79FPS While a 2500k pulls 119fps in wow.

I also do not wish to buy a new AMD Chip for only 10% improvement which they are saying, because it still wont touch the 2500k.
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July 17, 2012 5:01:33 PM

obubdeno said:
Nah I play Blizzard games which are very CPU Intensive, Im being bottlenecked quite a bit, and on top of that AMD just does not do well In blizzard games.

Benchmarks Show an FX-8150 pulls 79FPS While a 2500k pulls 119fps in wow.

I also do not wish to buy a new AMD Chip for only 10% improvement which they are saying, because it still wont touch the 2500k.



Well it seems you've already made your decision then. Don't know why you're asking.
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July 17, 2012 5:03:50 PM

Goden said:
Well it seems you've already made your decision then. Don't know why you're asking.



I was asking if there is a better buy for the money for a different Intel chip. And what motherboard to go to.
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July 17, 2012 5:15:08 PM

Most of the performance in games is coming from the video card. However if you are bottlenecked by your processor than moving up to the Intel® Core™ i5-2500K will give you better performance from from the processor but will also remove the bottleneck on the video card. The Intel Core i5-2500K is one of the best performance/value processors on the market.

I don't know how much of an improvement you will see with change but maybe 80% of the performance in a game come form the video card over the processor.

If I were looking for better system performance with your system I think I would start by adding an SSD as a boot drive. Heck right Newegg has the Intel® SSD 330 180GB for $160 which might be your best overall performance/boost.
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July 17, 2012 5:20:44 PM

Thanks for that yes, I looked into the SSD, but it wont improve fps at all just loading times:( 

And as for the games im playing, they are actually closer to the 50%-60% performance comes from the CPU.
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July 17, 2012 8:40:16 PM

So what is your budget for upgrades, saying you get $80 back for your mobo, then you not only have to buy the $160 2500k but also an 1155 sckt mobo, in which case a z77 has to be recommended, in which case the likes of a ASRock Z77 Pro4 is going to be another $100 meaning you have to find $180 + the $80 you get back for your mobo.
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July 17, 2012 8:45:44 PM

Well here is what I have figured out...

You get $40 off a Mobo when you buy the i5-2500k So Im leaning between:

i5-2500k: $159.99

Then Mobo:

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 - $95.99

or ASRock Z77 Pro 4 - $69.99

So Around $240 then Ill get $80 from Mobo and $50 from old Processor, So $110!

But what mobo do I go with?
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July 17, 2012 8:47:03 PM

Hi :) 

If your games are using 50/60% of your quad cpu . you are NOT being bottlenecked by it....

If you WANT to buy an i5 fine but dont use the bottlenecking excuse....you wont see a noticeable improvement in games...you WOULD if you bought a much better graphics card though....

All the best Brett :) 
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July 17, 2012 8:48:16 PM

Yeah then do it if you have the cash, it will be worth the performance boost..

Oh and get the Extreme 4 its well worth the extra $25 for the added features.
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July 17, 2012 8:52:20 PM

Brett928S2 said:
Hi :) 

If your games are using 50/60% of your quad cpu . you are NOT being bottlenecked by it....

If you WANT to buy an i5 fine but dont use the bottlenecking excuse....you wont see a noticeable improvement in games...you WOULD if you bought a much better graphics card though....

All the best Brett :) 



Okay No offense, but its been proven A Phenom 945 will bottleneck in wow on Ultra Settings, especially in raids. And a GTX 480 is a Top 5-10 Graphics card in terms of performance on the market.
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July 17, 2012 8:52:41 PM

Best answer selected by Obubdeno.
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July 17, 2012 10:25:42 PM

obubdeno said:
Okay No offense, but its been proven A Phenom 945 will bottleneck in wow on Ultra Settings, especially in raids. And a GTX 480 is a Top 5-10 Graphics card in terms of performance on the market.



Hi :) 

I sell graphics cards in my shops....

And a 480 is NOT in the top five.....maybe 10 but a long way down the list...mid range at best....

I repeat...you will get MUCH better gameplay with a MUCH better card.....the cpu change will NOT give the same increase in games...

All the best Brett :) 
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July 18, 2012 3:31:04 AM

Well...Id like for you to name me Better cards than the 480.

It compares to a 7870, and a GTX 570. So That leaves me with,

7950, 7970, GTX 580, GTX 670, GTX 680 would surpass it, and most of them its still pretty close.

Going from a 480 to a 670 I would see minimal difference in wow, I have my i5-2500k in now and reinstalling windows, Ill let you know the difference at stock speeds.
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