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April 5, 2012 1:19:13 AM

Hello, I have been wanting to build a gaming computer for a while and after research and deciding on parts, I think I'm ready to take the plunge into the PC world.

I plan on using this build to play games like TF2 and BF3 on high/very high, edit videos/ record gameplays for youtube and such, and just have something really strong for all my computer needs. I plan on gaming at 1600x900, so I figure one of the fastest cards will deliver great performance at this resolution. (Side note- I am aware that I may need 2 HDDs for recording gameplays, but with the high prices, I may wait a little or invest in another SSD down the line).

Any opinions on this build would be greatly appreciated as this is my first build and I want to make it a great one!

Here is the build:

AZZA Solano 1000 Black/Black Japanese SECC Steel/Metal mesh in front ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


OCZ ZX Series 850W Fully-Modular 80PLUS Gold High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7 ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB 2.0 High Gain Wireless Adapter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


APC Essential A/V Surge Protector (P7V)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Once again, thank you very much for any tips you can give me on this build!

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April 5, 2012 2:18:47 AM

Seems like you've got a pretty solid build.. only comment I really have is that I, personally wouldn't go with the 580. If you're thinking nVidia I'd either go up to the 680 or drop down to the 570. To me the 580 just has a weird price point for price/performance, just an opinion though.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/19-To...

From that.. generally speaking..

GTX 570 = 105% = $310
GTX 580 = 120% = $430
GTX 680 = 150% = $500

Drop down.. save $120.. lose 15%.
Go up.. spend $70.. gain 30%.

Don't get me wrong though.. if you get the 580 (if it's just where you want to be in terms of cost..) you won't be disappointed.

Also, definitely stick with EVGA. They are a great company.
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April 5, 2012 2:20:51 AM

Are you going to be SLI down the road? If not, 850W is too much.
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April 5, 2012 3:45:43 AM

i agree with Crush3d and gary1
so get gtx680 and if not going to sli then 650w psu is enough.
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April 5, 2012 4:05:04 AM

From what it sounds like, I think you would need a 560Ti. Heck, get 2 and SLI them and they'll beat the 680. The 680 is total overkill for TF2. The 560Ti should handle everything you need, and at a good price (~$200).
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April 5, 2012 4:35:32 AM

Crush3d said:
Seems like you've got a pretty solid build.. only comment I really have is that I, personally wouldn't go with the 580. If you're thinking nVidia I'd either go up to the 680 or drop down to the 570. To me the 580 just has a weird price point for price/performance, just an opinion though.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2012-vga-gpgpu/19-To...

From that.. generally speaking..

GTX 570 = 105% = $310
GTX 580 = 120% = $430
GTX 680 = 150% = $500

Drop down.. save $120.. lose 15%.
Go up.. spend $70.. gain 30%.

Don't get me wrong though.. if you get the 580 (if it's just where you want to be in terms of cost..) you won't be disappointed.

Also, definitely stick with EVGA. They are a great company.


I agree - I wouldn't go with anyone else if you're going for NVIDIA. I've also really come to like Azza cases lately - if I ever do another full build I'm basing it around the Hurrican 2000 - I love the front-loading HD bays - it seems like it would make adding drives so much easier.
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April 5, 2012 5:03:36 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This card is basically the same as the superclocked EVGA card for $20 less. I know EVGA has built a pretty good name for itself in the video card space, but most video card makers seem to be pretty much equal to me.

I wouldn't suggest to use 2x video cards. 1x has a whole lot of advantages over 2x that add to the same price and usually only a minor FPS loss in the games that SLI even works right in.

CD Drive - The Asus 24x DRW-24B1ST is a lot better than this drive is.

PSU - OCZ isn't a great company. They are trailing the pack in every single thing they make. I would get an XFX 650w instead of this.

Case - For a little bit more $, the HAF 932 is a whole lot more popular than this.

SSD - 64 GBs is just not enough. After the OS, page file, free space, drivers, updates, etc are factored in you have like 8 GBs left to install games with. With the M4 128 GBs that goes up to like 66 GBs to install games in. It is a world of difference.

RAM - I suggest CT2KIT51264BA1339 to everybody because the failure rate on this part is pretty much zero. My rule of thumb is that there has to be a good reason not to get it and this is not one of those cases where there is a good reason to get something else.
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April 5, 2012 5:57:54 AM

Raiddinn said:

SSD - 64 GBs is just not enough. After the OS, page file, free space, drivers, updates, etc are factored in you have like 8 GBs left to install games with. With the M4 128 GBs that goes up to like 66 GBs to install games in. It is a world of difference.


While I do agree with you, I wouldn't put a page file on a SSD, but rather on a partition of its own on the HDD, 3 times the size of your RAM should be easily enough.
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April 5, 2012 6:24:39 AM

Now that we are past the days of 2x 1GB sticks, I wouldn't really say anyone needs a multiple other than 1x of their RAM in most cases.

With a standard 2x 4GB set, people should be able to very easily get by with 1x for the page file.

Performance wise switching data between RAM and the page file would be a lot slower if it was located on the hard drive, but with a tiny 64 GB SSD it isn't the worst idea to go that route instead.

Both ways have their advantages and disadvantages.

Even if it was located on the hard drive and had to compete with the data on the hard drive for reads/writes it would only free up 8GBs on the SSD which is like 1 more game, allowing a grand total of about 2 to be installed at once.

I still like the 128 GB version where you can get more like 6 or 7 on there with full SSD reduced load times.
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April 6, 2012 12:25:53 AM

Thanks for all the advice you've given me so far.

@Raiddinn I actually had no clue that the company I chose for the PSU was bad, so I will definitely be looking into another one.

Also, to answer most of you guys, I may SLI down the road when I feel more comfortable, but for now, I'd prefer not to SLI as I don't really want to have to deal with microstuttering or other SLI problems, for my first build. Thanks for those pointers though. Most of the things I want to do like ICEnhancer GTA 4 and such only really work well with single-gpu's as I have seen so far.

I chose a high watt psu so that I really don't have to upgrade for a while. I'm looking to only add things down the road, not really replace, but thanks for the advice.

@Crush3d Thanks for the breakdown on nVidia's top single gpu cards, it kind of put things in perspective. I only chose the gtx 580 because of its huge price decrease as well as the fact as I heard it was a better all-around card (gaming and video-editing) while the gtx 680 is mainly for gaming only. I don't know the truth behind this so if you or anyone else could help me clear that up, it would be great.

Plus, aren't EVGA GTX 680's practically sold out all the time, and within 20 minutes of restocking they're practically gone ? If the GTX 680 is a great all around for my needs I'd love to get it, I just want to be able to find one in stock (LOL).

Anyway, thanks for all the pointers so far and please keep it up. I'm not gonna order until I'm 100% sure of what I want and not until after I run it by you guys again! Thanks


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April 6, 2012 1:08:53 AM

Raiddinn said:
I know EVGA has built a pretty good name for itself in the video card space, but most video card makers seem to be pretty much equal to me.


Personally, I feel that a lot of cards from different brand typically have very little variability in terms of performance. The real value comes in warranties, customer service, and other perks. These are things that I will pay a premium for and why I prefer and recommend EVGA. Things like the Step-up Program and Customer service that they offer makes a worthwhile difference in my mind.




datguy88 said:


@Crush3d Thanks for the breakdown on nVidia's top single gpu cards, it kind of put things in perspective. I only chose the gtx 580 because of its huge price decrease as well as the fact as I heard it was a better all-around card (gaming and video-editing) while the gtx 680 is mainly for gaming only. I don't know the truth behind this so if you or anyone else could help me clear that up, it would be great.

Plus, aren't EVGA GTX 680's practically sold out all the time, and within 20 minutes of restocking they're practically gone ? If the GTX 680 is a great all around for my needs I'd love to get it, I just want to be able to find one in stock (LOL).

Anyway, thanks for all the pointers so far and please keep it up. I'm not gonna order until I'm 100% sure of what I want and not until after I run it by you guys again! Thanks


While it may have dropped in price, I still believe the price/performance value is not that, especially given the numbers in my previous post.

The link in my previous post actually contains many benchmarks for different games, 3dmark, etc. Perhaps someone better versed in non-gaming benchmarks can offer some insight on that kind of topic. I haven't looked at every category there but every single one that I have looked at puts the 680 a good amount above the 580 in terms of performance.

You are right one thing for sure.. getting a 680 at this point in time is quite challenging.

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April 7, 2012 12:09:45 AM

Hey guys, thanks for all the posts so far, but could you please direct me to a place that seems to have the gtx 680 EVGA in stock more often than sites like newegg.

Also, could you guys please tell me if it is a good idea to get an SSD just for the OS, and an HDD for everything else, and what are the better PSU's and RAM memories to get?

Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far. You are all really helping me with my final build.
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April 7, 2012 12:17:53 AM

I already told you all that stuff.

I would not get an SSD just for the OS. I would get a SSD for the OS + games, which means it needs to have 128 GBs, or to be one of those wonky 80 GB Intels at least.

RAM - CT2KIT51264BA1339

PSU - XFX 650w.

All that is reposted from one of my previous posts.
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April 7, 2012 12:22:07 AM

Sorry, I just wanted to see if anyone else would respond with anything else so I could compare so I posted those questions. I appreciate your ad vise very much though, thanks.
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April 7, 2012 12:26:44 AM

BTW, just checked CT2KIT51264BA1339 and was wondering what features make it better than the Memory like G. Skill and RipJaws and all of those?
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April 7, 2012 1:17:34 AM

There is only two features that makes it better than other memory and that is that it 1) is recognized right away more often, and 2) it arrives DOA much less often.

I mean statistically speaking too. A major parts retailer selling 100+ of each type of part collected stats showing Crucial and Kingston have 3x lower RMA rates than G.Skill and 5x+ lower than Corsair. Something like 13x lower than the worst performing Corsairs and OCZ RAM.

I tell people to get it because it works right the first time every time.

Nothing that competing products give is equal to that benefit.
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April 9, 2012 2:32:37 AM

What would be the better decision for storage for this build?

2x of these:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

1x of the previous, and 1x of these:
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

They each come to about the same price, but I don't know what the better option is. Thanks for any advice in advance.

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April 9, 2012 3:10:50 AM

datguy88 said:
What would be the better decision for storage for this build?

2x of these:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

1x of the previous, and 1x of these:
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

They each come to about the same price, but I don't know what the better option is. Thanks for any advice in advance.


The two set-ups really have two different purposes.. I think it goes without saying that using a SSD for storage isn't really practical from a pricing standpoint. If you are looking to store a large volume of stuff then you are better off with the two Spinpoints. However, if you are looking for some improvements in boot time, game load time, etc.. then SSD is clearly desirable.
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April 9, 2012 12:02:58 PM

The better question is

2x 1TB Spinpoint F3

vs

Crucial Mr 128 GBs + 2TB Samsung EcoGreen F4

There is a small cost premium for the 2nd one (like $300 vs $350), but I would say the advantages are worth the extra $50 if there is that much to spare in the budget.
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