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3 HD 6450's or 1 HD 6850?

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January 28, 2012 3:12:35 PM

I'm wondering what would be faster:

3 AMD Radeon HD 6450 1GB Cards
or
1 AMD Radeon HD 6850 1GB Card

I'm a real noob at this lol.
Thanks for your help ;)  :)  !

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January 28, 2012 3:42:02 PM

Get the 6850. 6450 would do you no good in crossfire for gaming.
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January 28, 2012 4:07:17 PM

yeah, 3 HD 6450s wouldn't even perform on-par with the similarly priced HD 6770. it would be way under. Go with the HD 6850 because the only use of 3 HD 6450s is if you need to work with a shitload of monitors which i highly doubt.
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January 28, 2012 4:21:58 PM

Okay.
How about 2 HD 6770's vs 1 HD 6870?

I'mma be playing on two 20-24" monitors :)  (hopefully).
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January 28, 2012 4:27:46 PM

You'd get better performance with 2 6770's but it's better to leave things like crossfire as an upgrade unless you are building a system where 1 top of the line card doesn't cut it.
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January 28, 2012 4:31:26 PM

Yeah, I see what you mean :)  .

This is kinda not on topic, but do you think a 1 Year Old Alienware m15x for $600 is a good deal?
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January 28, 2012 4:35:27 PM

TBH, get 1 6870 then later on get another later. Alternative options are:
wait for HD 7790/7850/7870
HD 6850
GTX 560 Ti
GTX 560 Ti 448 core
GTX 460 1GB (make sure it's the 1GB and not 768MB)
HD 5850/5870
wait for GTX 6660
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January 28, 2012 4:35:55 PM

List your whole system specs (especially motherboard, monitor resolution you'll be using, and power supply), your budget, and what you intend to use this card for.

You'd have to list the specs of the Alienware laptop for us to tell you if it was a good deal. Alienware tends to be over priced but it might be a good deal.
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January 28, 2012 4:55:20 PM

Hmm...
For my Motherboard I was thinking either:
-ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
-GIGABYTE GA-P67X-UD3-B3
-P8P67 Evo
Which one do you think is best?
My budget is ~$800

CPU: Intel Core i7 2600k

I need help finding a case (full) and power supply (how many watts do you think I need)?

Like I said I'm a noob, and need help.

I want to play games like MW3 Battlefield 3 and GTA.
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January 28, 2012 5:08:41 PM

Or this mobo:
F1A75-V PRO
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January 28, 2012 5:19:41 PM

Right off the bat, drop down to an i5-2500K. The 2600K will take up too much of your budget and the performance increase in gaming wouldn't be worth it for the price.

For Mobo's the ASRock one you listed is the one I'd recommend. It's fairly cheap, a good performer, and is PCI-e 3.0 compatible which will be good if you decide to upgrade in the future.

For that budget range, either an AMD 6950 or a GTX 560ti will provide the best bang for buck in gaming.

For PSUs you should get something from Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, or PC Power & Cooling. Those guys make the best power supplies and that is not an area where you want to skimp. A solid 650W or higher would work.

For a case, Anandtech just did a review on the Antect Three Hundred Two and it looks like a pretty good case for a reasonable price.

For Ram, an 8GB (2 x 4gb) 1600Mhz kit from G.Skill or Corsair will serve you well.

You'll also need a hard drive and an operating system. For hard drives, I'd recommend buying the lowest capacity you can stand right now and upgrading later. The flooding in Thailand has caused a huge spike in HD prices.
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January 28, 2012 5:35:19 PM

I'm getting 16GB 1600mhz today at Fry's for $59.99... good deal?
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January 28, 2012 5:36:48 PM

It's pretty reasonable. What brand though?
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January 28, 2012 5:41:29 PM

subasteve5800 said:
Right off the bat, drop down to an i5-2500K. The 2600K will take up too much of your budget and the performance increase in gaming wouldn't be worth it for the price.

For Mobo's the ASRock one you listed is the one I'd recommend. It's fairly cheap, a good performer, and is PCI-e 3.0 compatible which will be good if you decide to upgrade in the future.

For that budget range, either an AMD 6950 or a GTX 560ti will provide the best bang for buck in gaming.

For Ram, an 8GB (2 x 4gb) 1600Mhz kit from G.Skill or Corsair will serve you well.


Took the words right out of my mouth. OP, follow this guy's advice. He knows what he's talking about.

I've never used dual monitors but the 6950 should be able to handle it nicely.

As for the laptop, I'm assuming that you're buying used to find it at that price. Take it to a computer guru to make sure that it works and get it cleaned up before laying down $600. Otherwise, this site (http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5360) lists its specs pretty high.

1080p
i7 920XM
GTX 260M
4GB 1333
500GB HDD

Should work very well for gaming. If we're talking about the same laptop, that is.
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January 28, 2012 5:48:33 PM

tw23 said:
I'm getting 16GB 1600mhz today at Fry's for $59.99... good deal?

The patriot ones are good modules. Depending on how much money you want to spend on a card, a quality 650w unit will be good. I would suggest a 6950 for driving 2 monitors.
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January 28, 2012 5:50:32 PM

Actually my monitor will be my 720p TV 47".
So a 6850 w/ an i7 2600k or a 6950 w/ an i5 2500k.
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January 28, 2012 5:54:58 PM

tw23 said:
Actually my monitor will be my 720p TV 47".
So a 6850 w/ an i7 2600k or a 6950 w/ an i5 2500k.


6950 w/ i5 2500k
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January 28, 2012 5:57:31 PM

What do you do? Game only? Video edit?
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January 28, 2012 6:07:56 PM

Game and develop.
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January 28, 2012 6:08:14 PM

Oh..
I also need to know if I should get a full or mid tower...

And is this PSU good?
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W
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January 28, 2012 6:14:16 PM

tw23 said:
Oh..
I also need to know if I should get a full or mid tower...

And is this PSU good?
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W


It's ok... but OCZ's better line is the ZS/ZX some people tend to have issues with the modXstream.
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January 28, 2012 6:16:34 PM

omega21xx said:
It's ok... but OCZ's better line is the ZS/ZX some people tend to have issues with the modXstream.


Also.
This motherboard is on sale for $100:
ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3

Get it?
It's $20 cheaper than the Asrock Z68 Extrem3

How about this:
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W
as a PSU?
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January 28, 2012 6:21:00 PM

tw23 said:
Also.
This motherboard is on sale for $100:
ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3

Get it?
It's $20 cheaper than the Asrock Z68 Extrem3

How about this:
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W
as a PSU?


PSU = good
between the two motherboards it really depends on how much you want to overclock. the pro series is decent but has a 4+1 power phase that can limit overclocking. the extreme has an 8+2. If you are only looking at a 4ghz overclock max the pro is fine, if you want higher look toward the extreme series or boards with 8+2 power phases or higher. Not saying you can't reach higher than 4ghz on the pro series, just the board has a higher chance of blowing up (or limiting power to the cpu) the higher you overclock compared to ones with 8+2 :) 
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January 28, 2012 6:29:24 PM

tw23 said:
Oh..
I also need to know if I should get a full or mid tower...

And is this PSU good?
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W

Stay away from these. Get the corsair one.
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January 28, 2012 6:40:15 PM

So...

1. Asrock is the brand I should get for mobos?
2. Should I get the 1090t or 8120fx instead of the i5 2500k?
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January 28, 2012 6:44:10 PM

1. ASRock is a great motherboard co. they make very nice price motherboards with great features, my only problem with them is their QA sucks. There's a higher chance you could get a glitchy board or DOA board from ASRock than with ASUS or Gigabyte, but their QA is much better than say foxconn or biostar.
2. No stay with the i5 2500k, take it from someone who left amd to go back to intel.

I've stuck with ASRock due to what you get for the price. If you haven't tried them go for it you won't be disappointed.
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January 28, 2012 6:50:45 PM

omega21xx said:
1. ASRock is a great motherboard co. they make very nice price motherboards with great features, my only problem with them is their QA sucks. There's a higher chance you could get a glitchy board or DOA board from ASRock than with ASUS or Gigabyte, but their QA is much better than say foxconn or biostar.
2. No stay with the i5 2500k, take it from someone who left amd to go back to intel.

I've stuck with ASRock due to what you get for the price. If you haven't tried them go for it you won't be disappointed.


Okay I will.

So so far on my list is:
-Intel Core i5 2500k ($180)
-CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ($79.99 after coupon + rebate)

But I'm wondering which is better:
Radeon HD 6950 or Nvidia GTX 550 Ti
The 6950 one has 2GB whereas the 550 Ti only has 1GB.
But the 550 Ti significantly cost less...
Any ideas?
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January 28, 2012 6:53:29 PM

Also will this mobo be better than the Extreme3?
ASRock Fatal1ty P67
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January 28, 2012 6:57:02 PM

Stick with the 6950, in games nvidia's rival gpu is the 560ti or the 570

The ASRock Fatal1ty is a good higher end board if you want to pay the extra price for it. I'm pretty sure you pay a small portion due to the Fatal1ty name lol
The Extreme 3 should serve you well.
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January 28, 2012 7:00:10 PM

omega21xx said:
Stick with the 6950, in games nvidia's rival gpu is the 560ti or the 570

The ASRock Fatal1ty is a good higher end board if you want to pay the extra price for it. I'm pretty sure you pay a small portion due to the Fatal1ty name lol
The Extreme 3 should serve you well.


The Fatal1ty is cheaper today :p  .

Here are the ones I am thinking about (post which one you would take - if cost did not matter):
-ASRock Fatal1ty P67
-ASRock P67 EXTREME4
-ASRock Z68 Extreme3

Thank you all for your help :)  ;)  !
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January 28, 2012 7:07:15 PM

The extreme 3 personally just because the added benefits of the z68 Chipset.
The fatal1ty you listed only has 1 pcie 2.0 x16 and doesn't have 3.0 either like the extreme 3.
The Extreme 4 has 2 pcie 3.0 and 1 pcie 2.0 but is gimped by the 2.0 @ x4. Over all the extreme 3 is the best price/performance out of the 3 and like i mentioned you get the added benefits of the z68 chipset.

Oh and mid tower is fine. If you need more space get a full tower, but with the boards we talked about a full tower wouldn't provide much aside from upgrade room which a midtower has plenty of for these boards.
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January 28, 2012 7:14:26 PM

omega21xx said:
The extreme 3 personally just because the added benefits of the z68 Chipset.

Oh and mid tower is fine. If you need more space get a full tower


The P67 Extreme4 is only $99 today.
The Fatil1ty Performance is only $120 today.
The Extreme3 is still $121.

Which one should I get?
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January 28, 2012 7:27:40 PM

tw23 said:
The P67 Extreme4 is only $99 today.
The Fatil1ty Performance is only $120 today.
The Extreme3 is still $121.

Which one should I get?


If the Extreme 4 you are mentioning has 2 pcie 3.0 slots that would be a great deal but the one i saw cost more than the other two. The fatal1ty board isn't worth saving 1 dollar and losing pcie 3.0 on top of only having 1 pcie 2.0 slot.

Is this the extreme 4 you were talking about? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
it's listed 30 dollars more than the extreme 3 z68. If you found it for $99 you either found a bargain or the wrong board.

If you mean this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... you lose pcie 3.0 for 2.0 and it's open box so you run the risk of missing parts or a bad board more so than just buying new.
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January 28, 2012 8:28:38 PM

So...
Does the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 ever go on sale? lol
Like for $100?

Do you think that one is the best one under ~$120?
There are no other mobos under $120 w/ 2x PCI 3.0 slots, so I'm leaning toward the Extreme3.
Any thoughts or comments?
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January 28, 2012 8:43:01 PM

tw23 said:
So...
Does the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 ever go on sale? lol
Like for $100?

Do you think that one is the best one under ~$120?
There are no other mobos under $120 w/ 2x PCI 3.0 slots, so I'm leaning toward the Extreme3.
Any thoughts or comments?


The extra $20 is really worth it for future proofing reasons. If you absolutely had to save some money and don't mind sacrificing crossfire/sli and overclocking headroom, get the pro3 gen 3 board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... . 4ghz on these chips is all you would really need for quite a few years before the board and cpu become too old to play the latest games.

List the parts and links you are getting, i could probably save you money else where so you can keep the extreme 3 gen 3.
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January 28, 2012 8:45:45 PM

omega21xx said:
The extra $20 is really worth it for future proofing reasons. If you absolutely had to save some money and don't mind sacrificing crossfire/sli and overclocking headroom, get the pro3 gen 3 board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... . 4ghz on these chips is all you would really need for quite a few years before the board and cpu become too old to play the latest games.

List the parts and links you are getting, i could probably save you money else where so you can keep the extreme 3 gen 3.


I remember seeing it for like $100 - $110 on New Years Eve.
I should've got it then...

Recommend any cases?
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January 28, 2012 8:54:45 PM

HAF, CM storm scout, antec three hundred 2 just came out and had decent review from anandtech.

It's really up to what look you like, most cases don't affect cooling too drastically, just make sure it has enough slots for fans, space for you gfx card, heat sink, and enough space for how many hard drives you need.
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January 28, 2012 9:07:36 PM

omega21xx said:
HAF, CM storm scout, antec three hundred 2 just came out and had decent review from anandtech.

It's really up to what look you like, most cases don't affect cooling too drastically, just make sure it has enough slots for fans, space for you gfx card, heat sink, and enough space for how many hard drives you need.


I'm thinking about this:
Cooler Master HAF 922M - $80
Cooler Master SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Storm Scout - $70
Rosewill FUTURE Gaming ATX - $60
Alienware Auara Case 2008 - $55 w/ 6 fans and 500w power supply
Which one?

This guy has an Alienware Auara (or whatever it's called) case w/ original power supply & fans.
How much do you think is a good deal?
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January 28, 2012 9:44:21 PM

I would never trust a power supply coming with a case. If you can tell me what power supply it is i might be able to say, but otherwise i'd say go with the rosewill or storm scout.
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January 28, 2012 10:01:15 PM

omega21xx said:
I would never trust a power supply coming with a case. If you can tell me what power supply it is i might be able to say, but otherwise i'd say go with the rosewill or storm scout.


okay so not the haf?
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January 28, 2012 10:05:57 PM

tw23 said:
okay so not the haf?


I like the HAF, i'd personally save a few bucks on a storm scout or rosewill, but if you like the look enough to justify the price difference go for it :) 
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