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April 5, 2012 4:14:32 AM

Hey guys,

Trying to figure out the best build at the moment for what I do. I am a professional illustrator/digital artist. I have a max budget of $3000-$4000.

I use mainly:

- Photoshop (working with big hi-res prints with loads of layers)
- Maya + Zbrush + Realflow (modeling, creating detailed scenes and rendering at big hi-res formats)
- Some gaming (Nothing that requires a crazy graphic card (yet), will be playing Diablo 3)


Basically I'm aiming to increase workflow productivity with photoshop & 3d apps, decrease loading/rendering times drastically, 3d dynamics, etc. I reckon if i have all of those, gaming in D3 should be no problem...

I'm trying to think if I want to get workstation specs or gaming specs, leaning more towards workstation. Definitely want to get as much ram as possible in there as well.

Would love to hear your thoughts, thanks so much!

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next 1-3 months

Budget Range: $3000-$4000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Hi-res print design, Complicated 3D scenes + Dynamics, Gaming.

Parts Not Required: I need strictly tower specs suggestions, I don't need monitor/s and other stuff.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Whatever works, Newegg, Amazon (I have prime), any site with fast shipping.

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Liquid cooling (want a quiet pc, or fan cooling if it's not noisy), ssds in raid,

Overclocking: Yes, if needed.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, though probably not since the most graphic intensive game I'm playing is Diablo 3.

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 x 2

Additional Comments: Quiet PC, Super fast pc, hopefully not too heavy.
a b 4 Gaming
April 5, 2012 6:26:05 AM

Hello op.

For maya and renderengines like mental ray , v-ray , i-ray etc. the most used part of the system will be your cpu.

I would recommend two setups.




Setup no 1

2 x xeon 6 core cpu and evga srx

setup no 2

i7 3930k and asus x79 ws


for the graphic card the pull is that should i suggest a gaming gpu or profrssional.

For this the best bet is to get gaming gpu.

My first suggestion would be

gtx 680 ( especially the upcomming 4gb model)
but the drivers are not upgraded to support cuda on cs5 and rendering engines.

They might remove an update to support kepler or they will remove the new edition cs6 for creative suite.

To play safe my second suggestion will be gtx 580 3 gb model as it has huge vram to accodomate huge maps go render on the gpu.

For storage ssd in raid will result in bad performance in future due to constant rewrites.

Also trim is not supported in raid. as trim is responsible in keeping the ssd as new as possible so ssd in raid will be a bad idea.

But their is a hope. intel anounced the they are removing an ubdate of drivers to support raid on current ssd of theirs.



My rough suggestion for this build will be

intel i7 3930k
Corsair h100 liquid cooler
Asus p9x79 ws motherboard
corsair vengence 4x8gb 1600mhz ddr3ram
Seasonic x-850 w psu
intel 520 180gb ssd
4x wd carvier black 1tb hdd in raid 10
Lg 12x blue ray burner
coolermaster storm trooper full tower case.

I would post some links of the above build or might change some parts.

I would also suggest to get 2x xeons .

I would post it afyer a few hours.
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April 5, 2012 7:31:49 AM

This is the Ivy Bridge version of a build, and I'l post a Sandy Bridge-E build in a bit.


Ivy Bridge is due out April 29th.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPa... <----- Z77 boards already for sale in Australia. In the past few years the Aussies have been getting the goodies a month ahead of the US and Canada including Sandy Bridge and the 1155 boards. The Aussies have already pulled some of the 1155 Cougar Point boards (H61/H67/P67/Z68) from their site. In fact a lot of those boards are no longer for sale on that site compared to last month.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5166/ivy-bridge-overview <----- Line-up of Ivy Bridge desktop cpu's to date.

Z77/Z75 motherboards (Panther Point chipset w/native USB 3.0) and PCI-E 3.0

http://www.asrock.com/microsite/PCIe3/overview.html <----- Quick and brief rundown of Ivy Bridge, PCI-E 3.0 cards and the new gen boards.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp?s=1155 <---- Asrocks Z77 and Z75 boards to date. They all get released with Ivy Bridge.

http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/Inte... <---- Asus Z77 board lineup to date.

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/list.aspx?s=42&jid=2&p=... <----- Gigabyte Z77 board lineup to date.

http://us.msi.com/product/mb/#/?sk=Socket%201155%20(Intel%20i3/i5/i7) <----- MSI Z77 board lineup to date.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626/ivy-bridge-preview-c... <---- Ivy Bridge cpu review with benchmarks



http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-overclock... <----- Overclocking the gtx 680 w/benchmarks




This Corsair case down below comes with a multi channel fan controller, 200mm side fan, SSD cage, dust filters, and front 3.0 USB ports.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Gaming-CC-... $118.98 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

This XFX psu down below is manufactured by Seasonic as are all XFX psu's and the mid and upper tier Corsair psu's.

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-850-Power-Supply/dp/B0050... $122.75 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
XFX PRO850W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80 Plus Silver Certified 850 Watt Active PFC Power Supply

http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z7... $250+ would be my guess
ASUS P8Z77 WS (4 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 dual x16 or x16, x8, x8 or quad x8)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5166/ivy-bridge-overview $332
Intel i7-3770K Ivy Bridge CPU 3.5Ghz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $114.99 FREE SHIPPING
CORSAIR H100 (CWCH100) Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $289.99
G.SKILL Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C10Q-32GAO

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $509.99
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR480GB 2.5" 480GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $177.45 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 3 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST3000DM001

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD%C2%B1RW-Serial-Intern... $19.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Asus 24xDVD±RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Total: $2,686.12 *not including motherboard


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $139.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <---- a better look at that case

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-sli-revie... <----- GTX 680 SLI review
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a b 4 Gaming
April 5, 2012 7:50:40 AM

The socket LGA 2011 uses more juice than the socket 1155 hence the larger psu in this build.


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Gaming-CC-... $118.98 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO1050W-Compatible-Certified... $215.78 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
XFX PRO1050W Black Edition Full Modular 80PLUS Gold PSU Compatible with Intel Core i3, i5, i7 and AMD Phenom, FX ATX 1050 Energy Star Certified Power Supply P11050BEFX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $259.99
ASRock X79 Extreme6 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $599.99 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $114.99 FREE SHIPPING
CORSAIR H100 (CWCH100) Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $289.99
G.SKILL Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C10Q-32GAO

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $509.99
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR480GB 2.5" 480GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $177.45 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 3 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST3000DM001

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD%C2%B1RW-Serial-Intern... $19.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Asus 24xDVD±RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Total: $3,307.19


http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=X79%20Extre... <----- A better look at that board, also get the latest bios for that board here.
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April 5, 2012 8:24:43 AM

you are going to spend $4k,better wait for ivy bridge because-
1-your system is going to be used intensively and will consume more power.ivy bridge will use less.
2-overclocking is going to be a dream on ivy.
3-check out WHY ME's post.
4-you can afford!
and if you don't wanna wait then grab a 3930k setup with 32gb of ram and some beefy hardware.for gpu,7870 will do fine(you said you are not a hardcore gamer).
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April 5, 2012 9:13:47 AM

@hellfire.

Rendering uses all cores and processing power you can give.

He would need an nvidia cuda card which will help him to render things quickly and also decrease the workload from the cpu.

Provide as much vram as possible as if a huge scene with heavy materials , lighting and polligons in millions wont be rendered in 2gb or it will be very close to fail. so if you can provide much more ram why not.

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a b 4 Gaming
April 5, 2012 9:15:44 AM

At 4000 usd xeons is the best way to go.
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April 5, 2012 9:25:58 AM

xeons are getting too old.soon evga is going to release dual LGA2011 socket mobo.i think it's sr x(something like that,google it).2x3820 will provide enough power under budget.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 5, 2012 9:54:51 AM

thats what i said in my first post srx

lol you should do that and read every word in the thread
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April 5, 2012 11:09:34 AM

Go for a LGA1155 or LGA2011.
With that budged, I think you can afford two GTX680.
Also, check the new Intel SSDs.
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April 5, 2012 12:41:46 PM

With such plans for the machine the only way to go is Sandy Bridge based Xeon systems
For Cuda support on the Adobe, I would either go a Pro level Quadro Card if you need the high precision rendering performance in other supported software or a GTX580 (I would avoid the GTX680's since they have crippled compute on those cards which means Cuda will not be as effective)
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April 5, 2012 12:54:42 PM

techtte said:
Go for a LGA1155 or LGA2011.
With that budged, I think you can afford two GTX680.
Also, check the new Intel SSDs.

If you check out the Maya page you will see the only cards that are certified are the Quattro and Firepro cards. These cards are optimized for Maya to the nth degree and also do a great job on Photoshop. I would avoid consumer cards for your build... using them could be a world of hurt.
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April 5, 2012 1:11:27 PM

Thanks so much for your help guys, esp serial killer and why_me. Much appreciated!

The Evga dual-socket LGA2011 mobo looks to be a complete beast...would love to have a setup around that. That way I could have even more cores and ram to work with.

I do think I will end up getting a Quadro since like warbler boi says, it's pretty much standard for Maya, which I use a lot.
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April 5, 2012 1:16:07 PM

serialkiller said:
thats what i said in my first post srx

lol you should do that and read every word in the thread


so you are going to put xeons on srx x79?well done :kaola: 
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April 5, 2012 3:29:40 PM

Instead of building one machine to serve two functions, I'd suggest buidling two separate machines: one for work and rendering, one for gaming and everyday use.

Gaming PC

(if not overclocking)
CPU: Intel Core i5-2400 $189.99
Mobo: MSI H67MS-E43 $89.99 (before $20 MIR)
subtotal: $279.98

(if overclocking)
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K $219.99
Mobo: ASUS P8Z68-V LX $124.99 (before $10 MIR)
Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper N520 $28.99 (before $3.99 shipping)
subtotal: $373.97

GPU: GIGABYTE Radeon HD 7850 $259.99 (before $6.98 shipping)
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 $44.99
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 RPM $84.99 (before $10 off w/promo code EMCNFNG57, ends 4/9)
DVD: LG 22X DVD Burner $17.99 (before $4.99 shipping)
Case: Thermaltake V3 $44.99 (before $5 MIR and $5 off w/ promo code EMCNFNG72, ends 4/9 )
PSU: SILVERSTONE 500W 80+ $59.99 (before $10 MIR and $5.99 shipping)
subtotal: $512.94

(optional)
SSD: Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 120GB SSD $124.99

total (before MIR and shipping)
if not overclocking: $792.92 ($917.91 w/ SSD)
if overclocking: $886.91 ($1011.90 w/ SSD)

Workstation PC

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K $599.99
Mobo: ASRock X79 Extreme4 $214.99 (before $7.87 shipping)
Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO $28.99 (before $3.99 shipping)
GPU: PNY Quadro 2000D $429.00 (before $4.99 shipping)
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 $89.99
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200 RPM $84.99 (before $10 off w/promo code EMCNFNG57, ends 4/9)
DVD: LG 22X DVD Burner $17.99 (before $4.99 shipping)
Case: Thermaltake V3 $44.99 (before $5 MIR and $5 off w/ promo code EMCNFNG72, ends 4/9 )
PSU: SILVERSTONE 500W 80+ $59.99 (before $10 MIR and $5.99 shipping)

(optional)
SSD: Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 120GB SSD $124.99

total (before MIR and shipping)
$1570.92 ($1695.91 w/ SSD)

If you're overclocking your gaming PC and want SSDs in both, total cost is $2707.81 for both machines. That comes in underbudget, so you can upgrade the workstation PC's GPU if needed (I'm not really familiar with workstation GPUs). This way you can render on your workstation and play Diablo 3 at the same time.
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April 5, 2012 3:37:36 PM

Thanks Hapkido, that's good input.

However, I honestly have no room for 2 pcs...I'd love to do that if I had an actual office, but I don't (Work from home).

I usually leave the rendering for the night when I sleep so I wake up with finished renders, so I reckon I don't really need a separate pc.

But much appreciated for your input!
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April 5, 2012 4:12:54 PM

realmisr said:
Thanks Hapkido, that's good input.

However, I honestly have no room for 2 pcs...I'd love to do that if I had an actual office, but I don't (Work from home).

I usually leave the rendering for the night when I sleep so I wake up with finished renders, so I reckon I don't really need a separate pc.

But much appreciated for your input!


Have you thought about a KVM switch? Then all you'd need is room for 2 cases without a second desk for additional monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Having a dedicated workstation would probably be more user-friendly and save you a lot of time without the need for something really exotic and expensive like dual Xeons. I really do think 2 PCs is the way to go, as you need to do 2 completely separate tasks.
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April 5, 2012 4:25:23 PM

@hapkido,clever idea but he already stated he wants something light and i think two systems is not going to be light.
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April 5, 2012 5:02:33 PM

hapkido said:
Have you thought about a KVM switch? Then all you'd need is room for 2 cases without a second desk for additional monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Having a dedicated workstation would probably be more user-friendly and save you a lot of time without the need for something really exotic and expensive like dual Xeons. I really do think 2 PCs is the way to go, as you need to do 2 completely separate tasks.


Ah, never knew such a thing existed. But then again, this still doesn't count for the "lightness" and lack of room. Being in NYC, every bit of room counts!

Thanks again Hapkido. What if I told you I only wanted 1 pc? What would your build look like for what I do? Again, I plan to build it within the next 1-3 months, so I do have time if anything awesome is about to be released (like ivy bridge)
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April 5, 2012 5:07:34 PM

I had this concept in my mind but i dumpt it out as it had some serious problem

the most worst thing was that the money was gonna divide into two parts.

This would lower the efficiency and reliability.

Second thibg that you will have to saccrifice the liberty to make a good workstation which will reduce your render time by half.

My suggestion is to wait for the release of sr-x and lga 2011 xeons.

This desigion will make your work smooth like butter.

And i bet you wont regret you.

For the gpu part render usually dont use gpu. if they are written to support render gpu then well. but as i recall maya dont use gpu on render.

Gpu only renders the final rendered output rendered by cpu and converting it into an image.

The gpu is only used at max when one do real time raytracing.

Of this application a gtx 580 3gb is enough.

For more procesding power op can add another gpu if he feels like adding more.



Or the best thing would be a computational node or a clustor of pcs.

This will not only be cost effective but also yield much more performance.


For clustor i would suggest the below built.

Intel i7 3770k
asrock z77 pro3
corsair vengence 2x8gb 1600mhz ddr3
cm hyper 212 evo
Seasonic 350 w 80+ bronze psu.


The above build x3

The master pc

intel i7 3770k
Cm hyper 212 evo
Asrock z77 extreme3
corsair vengence 2x8gb 1600mhz ddr3 ram
Evga gtx 580 3gb classified edition
Pc power and cooling silencer mkii 950w 80+ silver
Crucial m4 128gb
2x wd carvier blue 500gb hdd in raid 1
Seagate 3tb 7200rpm hdd


for case i need to find a good one . as far as i know one it looks like a drawers but the concept is nice but needs modding.


This build would be in your budget and as far as i know it will perform better than 2 i7 3930k and will be better than xeons.

Whenever you want more cpu power and another build. Specs dosent need to be same. by this you could keep your old systems and increase the processing power.
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April 5, 2012 5:12:48 PM

With ur budget range u will get a decent work station range parts. Avoid any consumer products like geforce or core 2 duo processors. get a work station board single socket will do ( performance to price increase is not great with respect to dual socket boards). Good xeon processor . Buy a decent mid range quadro or firepro (quadro is better) card . Loads of ecc rams. Solid smps. avoid 680 series cards. From the reviews of 680 available on the net, it seems nvidia is trying to separate their professional cards from consumer ones from this series onward. Though geforce card supports maya, z brush etc..but the dont calculate correctly. Their may be artifacts or poor image quality etc. Moreover the professionals cards gives a massive performance over their consumer counter parts while using softwares like maya z brush etc. U know how heavy dynamics simulation like fluid or hair is in maya and correctly rendering them is even tougher. In case of photoshop more rams is a good thing.
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April 5, 2012 5:31:24 PM

Yea, I'm pretty set on getting a Quadro 4000 (5000 is a bit much for me to justify for the cost)...wouldn't want to spend more than $1000 on a card. In the end, design & 3D comes before gaming for me, and the most graphic intensive thing i'll be playing is diablo 3, so I think a Quadro should be fine, right?
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April 5, 2012 6:39:44 PM

For one PC, using professional parts where possible...

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-1660 $1069.99
Mobo: SUPERMICRO X9SRA $349.99 (before $8.57 shipping) - This is the only socket 2011 server board on Newegg. I'm not sure if desktop/consumer boards can use Xeons.
RAM: Kingston 32GB (4 x 8GB) ECC Registered DDR3 1600 $289.99
GPU: PNY Quadro 4000 $749.99 (before $4.99 shipping)
SSD: Kingston V+200 480GB $659.99 (before $5.99 shipping)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda Green 1.5TB 5900 RPM (x2, RAID 1 for data redundancy) $189.98
DVD: LG Blu-Ray Burner $79.99
Case: COUGAR Evolution Black $94.99 (before $15 MIR and $19.99 shipping)
PSU: PC Power and Cooling Silencer MK III 500W Modular 80PLUS Bronze $79.99 (before $20 MIR and $3.99 shipping)

Total: $3564.90 (before $35 MIR and $43.53 shipping)

I don't know how well it would game because of drivers, but it's certainly powerful enough for Diablo 3. For a workstation, you have to spend more for reliability. If we were using consumer parts, we could get either more performance for the same price, or the same performance for less price, at the cost of some (maybe) reliability. This is not a "light" build, nor portable, but that's going to be nearly impossible with high-end parts where performance and reliability is key. If you're waiting to buy, this build will change if Intel release Ivy Bridge Xeons and Nvida releases Kepler Quadros.
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April 5, 2012 6:50:04 PM

you *might* need a more powerful psu.650w rosewill capstone is a sweet choice.
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April 5, 2012 6:53:45 PM

hellfire24 said:
you *might* need a more powerful psu.650w rosewill capstone is a sweet choice.


130w CPU + 150w GPU leaves 220w for the rest of the system. A quality 500w PSU is plenty (and probably overkill as it is).
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April 5, 2012 6:54:18 PM

Thanks Hapkido, I'll take those thoughts into consideration. Much appreciated.

I've been reading up about the Quadro 4000 and it seems to be getting destroyed by the Firepro V7900...the only thing is that I think Photoshop (esp upcoming CS6) benefits vastly from CUDA, which obviously isn't in the ATI.
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April 5, 2012 6:55:29 PM

^ The XFX 650W unit is $6 cheaper and is higher quality. :b
XFX Core Edition PRO650W (P1-650S-NLB9) 650W ATX12V 2.2 & ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
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April 5, 2012 7:01:48 PM

azeem40 said:
^ The XFX 650W unit is $6 cheaper and is higher quality. :b
XFX Core Edition PRO650W (P1-650S-NLB9) 650W ATX12V 2.2 & ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply


you know i love xfx but it's not better i guess.rosewill capstone has top notch quality(made by super flower)and also more efficient.
:p 
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April 5, 2012 7:02:20 PM

I could have sworn the gtx 680 wasn't too good for rendering and computational stuff according to tom's review. Might want to check up on that, it would also be overkill for diablo 3. I would maybe looking into a gtx 580 or a 7970 instead.
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April 5, 2012 7:07:29 PM

580 or 7970 are overkill too!
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April 5, 2012 7:10:10 PM

Yea, I was reading that GTX680 suffers drastically with 3D (or maya at least)

Ugh...choices, choices.
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April 5, 2012 7:28:13 PM

hellfire24 said:
you know i love xfx but it's not better i guess.rosewill capstone has top notch quality(made by super flower)and also more efficient.
:p 

Seasonic has better quality.
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April 5, 2012 8:57:13 PM

My professional advise would be to spend $1500 on a workstation and $1500 on a professional monitor. There is no need for that much power if this is your real job, however seeing what you're doing is incredibly important. I would look at something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and then subtract that from your budget and post a new budget.
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April 5, 2012 9:03:07 PM

dkcomputer said:
My professional advise would be to spend $1500 on a workstation and $1500 on a professional monitor. There is no need for that much power if this is your real job, however seeing what you're doing is incredibly important. I would look at something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and then subtract that from your budget and post a new budget.

The OP is covered in the monitor dept, he's just looking for the tower.
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April 6, 2012 12:30:12 AM

dkcomputer said:
My professional advise would be to spend $1500 on a workstation and $1500 on a professional monitor. There is no need for that much power if this is your real job, however seeing what you're doing is incredibly important. I would look at something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and then subtract that from your budget and post a new budget.


Thanks for the input, but I already have dual monitors with equal or better performance.

Also, not really sure what you mean by if this is my real job then I don't need that much power? Wouldn't it be the opposite if this IS my real job? :??: 
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April 6, 2012 1:14:19 AM

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Thanks for the input, but I already have dual monitors with equal or better performance.

Also, not really sure what you mean by if this is my real job then I don't need that much power? Wouldn't it be the opposite if this IS my real job? :??: 


I was assuming you want to design from home and render at work? Otherwise $4k would not be nearly enough to setup a server for rendering "at big hi-res formats" full-time. It takes a longgggg time for maya to render 4k or 5k on workstation.
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April 6, 2012 1:22:21 AM

Oh no, I am a freelance artist who works strictly from home. I do everything from home (which is also my work place)

I don't render full-time neither...I use a combo of Maya and Photoshop mainly, so I make use of both and try not to go crazy trying to make things look perfect straight out of 3D. I'd say when I render at print-res, it usually only takes me about a few hours for a few render layers in mental ray at production settings. If the scene is a bit crazy, then it can take more time, but I leave it on to render overnight anyway.

I'm by no means trying to build a workstation that strictly helps me render because I don't render enough to make use of that.

This new setup would a blend of 40% photoshop + 40% maya/zbrush/realflow + rendering + 20% gaming. The gaming % may drastically go up depending on how addictive Diablo 3 is :sol:  But again, I reckon a Quadro 4000 should be plenty sufficient for D3.

I'm still deciding between a Quadro 4000 or a Geforce...I'd want to believe a Geforce would be fine, but I've been reading all sorts of issues they have with Maya :( 
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April 6, 2012 2:37:22 AM

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I'm still deciding between a Quadro 4000 or a Geforce...I'd want to believe a Geforce would be fine, but I've been reading all sorts of issues they have with Maya :( 


Yeah I have a gtx580 on my gaming rig, would not suggest using it on maya I've tried. Quadro 6k would be nice if you can ever find one in stock.

All that being said I would suggest this to build off


NZXT Phantom PHAN-002OR Newegg Exclusive Black Finish w/Orange Trim Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811146073
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$139.99
$129.99


KINGWIN LZP-650 650W ATX 12V v2.2 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Modular Active PFC ...
Item #: N82E16817121092
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$169.99


G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-19200CL10Q2-64GBZHD
Item #: N82E16820231523
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$949.99


ASUS P9X79 WS LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 SSI CEB Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS
Item #: N82E16813131798
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$20.00 Instant
$399.99
$379.99


Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73960X
Item #: N82E16819116491
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
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$1,049.99


PNY VCQ4000-PB Quadro 4000 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Workstation Video Card
Item #: N82E16814133324
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
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$749.99


XIGMATEK LOKI SD963 92mm HYPRO Bearing CPU Cooler bracket included I7 i5 775 1155 AMD and dual fan push pull compatible
Item #: N82E16835233081
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
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$28.99
Subtotal: $3,458.93

Assuming you already have a whole lot of storage and an optical if needed. Having loads of O.C. ram to go with your raid array will make a huge difference. I've had some fun with 32g setting it as a hard drive and installing SWTOR on it. Load times still not instant though, has to load up the graphics each time :(  plus it crashed 90% of the time.
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April 6, 2012 2:59:16 AM

Awesome man, I like that build a lot! Didn't know you can use 64gbs of ram with 1 processor!
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April 6, 2012 3:46:54 AM

dkcomputer said:
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I'm still deciding between a Quadro 4000 or a Geforce...I'd want to believe a Geforce would be fine, but I've been reading all sorts of issues they have with Maya :( 


Yeah I have a gtx580 on my gaming rig, would not suggest using it on maya I've tried. Quadro 6k would be nice if you can ever find one in stock.

All that being said I would suggest this to build off


NZXT Phantom PHAN-002OR Newegg Exclusive Black Finish w/Orange Trim Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811146073
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$139.99
$129.99


KINGWIN LZP-650 650W ATX 12V v2.2 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Modular Active PFC ...
Item #: N82E16817121092
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$169.99


G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-19200CL10Q2-64GBZHD
Item #: N82E16820231523
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$949.99


ASUS P9X79 WS LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 SSI CEB Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS
Item #: N82E16813131798
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
-$20.00 Instant
$399.99
$379.99


Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73960X
Item #: N82E16819116491
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$1,049.99


PNY VCQ4000-PB Quadro 4000 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Workstation Video Card
Item #: N82E16814133324
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$749.99


XIGMATEK LOKI SD963 92mm HYPRO Bearing CPU Cooler bracket included I7 i5 775 1155 AMD and dual fan push pull compatible
Item #: N82E16835233081
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$28.99
Subtotal: $3,458.93

Assuming you already have a whole lot of storage and an optical if needed. Having loads of O.C. ram to go with your raid array will make a huge difference. I've had some fun with 32g setting it as a hard drive and installing SWTOR on it. Load times still not instant though, has to load up the graphics each time :(  plus it crashed 90% of the time.


other things are good but the cpu is just waste of money.$1k on a cpu is a no brainer.3930k is better choice.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 6, 2012 6:49:19 AM

I would not use any product by Xigmatech or Kingwin - their coolers and PSUs, respectively, are horrible quality. Get the Hyper 212 EVO and the XFX PSU.
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April 6, 2012 7:02:36 AM

kingwin lazer platinum psus are quiet good.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 6, 2012 7:08:29 AM

Source?
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a b 4 Gaming
April 6, 2012 7:21:31 AM

Now dont start to fight you guys.

It is good to pm. getting smart lol :lol: 
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April 6, 2012 7:46:08 AM

^no one is fighting!
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a b 4 Gaming
April 6, 2012 8:00:12 AM

So its ok

Peace :D 
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April 6, 2012 1:07:12 PM

Great to see so much input, thanks guys. Any other input/builds will also be very much appreciated!
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a b 4 Gaming
April 6, 2012 3:06:22 PM

Remember one thing , u wont get any product support from autodesk unless u have qualified hardwares. So if u have a geforce card and ask for support u wont get any. Only quadro or firepro is in their list. Also consider firepro cards, these are lots cheaper and performance wise not too bad. If u can wait, then wait a bit for new quadro or firepro cards release. They way it is with 680, i think nvidia will strip gaming performance from their professional cards. But dont worry u will be able to play diablo 3. I m also waiting for diablo. Somebody here remarked about professional monitor, u should note that also. After all a poor quality monitor will ruin all ur works .
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