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April 5, 2012 7:22:45 PM

Hi guys,

I'm going to start ordering my parts next week and will order them in 3 or 4 separate times (budget problem) and i would just like to know if this is a good set up for gaming?

Gaming is definitely to be the main reason, then hd video watching, music, and... well you get the point, i'm a gamer.
I want to be able to play cod mw3 and bf3 at 1920x1080, max settings.

Here is what i have so far :

Monitor : Samsung B2330
Case : Cooler Master Haf X
Keyboards : Logitech G19 and G13
Mouse : Logitech G700
Headset : Logitech G930
Speakers : Logitech Z906
Mouse mat : Razer goliathus control fragged edition
Graphics card : Radeon HD 4870 (will buy newer card at later stadium)

Then what i'm buying :

ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME-Z B3 ROG
http://www.tones.be/product/maximus-iv-extreme-z-b3-ddr...

INTEL CORE™ I7-2700K 32NM
http://www.tones.be/product/core-i7-2700k-32nm-4-cores-...

120GB CORSAIR FORCE GT SERIES SSD
http://www.tones.be/product/cssd-f120gbgt-bk-120gb-forc...

16GB 2133MHZ DDR3 CORSAIR VENGEANCE RED
http://www.tones.be/product/cmz16gx3m4x2133c11r-16gb-ki...

2000GB CAVIAR BLACK
http://www.tones.be/product/wd2002faex-2000gb-64mb-sata...

850W CORSAIR PROFESSIONAL
http://www.tones.be/product/ax850-professional-series-g...

CORSAIR H100
http://www.tones.be/product/h100-hydro-series-cpu-coole...

PLEXTOR DVD RW
http://www.tones.be/product/px-l890sa

So tell me what you guys think and how long a computer like this could last me for high end gaming.

Thanks

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April 5, 2012 7:37:46 PM

Can you fill out this form?
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/288241-31-buyer-guide...

It'll help us make better suggestions.

Right now, I can tell you that an i7-2700k is not necessary for gaming. No games currently use hyperthreading, and won't use it in the next couple of years.
Also, it's the same chip as an i7-2600k, so I wouldn't spend the extra money in it if you decide you want hyperthreading anyway. Go with an i5-2500k or i5-2550k.
Read this article which corroborates my thoughts on the processor ($225+ --> beyond the point of reason)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

I would also have to suggest air cooling, and not water cooling, for a first build.
Go with either a CoolerMaster 212 EVO or a Noctua DH-14.

The motherboard is nice, but you can also go with an ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3. (Cost saving)

Also consider SSDs such as the Crucial M4, OCZ Vertex 3 or 4, Intel 520...

A storage drive doesn't have to be speedy, so I would go with a WD Caviar Blue or Seagate Barracuda. I would also suggest you to save some money and go with a smaller size drive, because right now it's still pretty expensive for big drives.

Otherwise, I like the power supply. The RAM is also good, but you won't see a big difference with RAM beyond 1600MHz.
April 5, 2012 7:43:50 PM

Have you shopped from that site before?
Is there a reason you're using them?

Those are good specs, overall, great for gaming.
However, you really don't need an i7-2700K, either the 2600K or the i5-2500K would be great. Also, the RAM you chose is FAR beyond the specs of the CPU and you'd the performance boost you'd get is negligible compared to DDR3 1600. XMP does allow you to overclock and use higher RAM but even on a 2500K rig, anything past 1600 won't be worth the money spent.

There is no doubt that the specs you've put together will last a very long time.
I just know that there are many gamers out there getting stellar performance out of lower level CPU's and 1600 RAM, and saving a lot of money in the process.
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April 5, 2012 7:57:30 PM

follow quicksand's advice, it is spot on.

I would add the samsung 830 to the list of SSD's.
Also, no need to go with 16GB of ram, 8 is plenty at 1600. I also prefer low profile so i can fit them under a nice air cooler.
April 5, 2012 8:01:39 PM

What are you doing to the system in the future? That mobo is VERY expensive compared to ones that will be able to support everything you will be getting plus more for about half of the cost.
a b 4 Gaming
April 5, 2012 8:09:27 PM

Agree with all above and as I understand it you should stick with 1.5V RAM to avoid damage to the processor over time (seems to be some dispute but why risk it?). Also, if you wait 24 days you can get an Ivy Bridge instead of a Sandy Bridge.
April 5, 2012 9:41:36 PM

Pyro13 said:
Hi guys,

I'm going to start ordering my parts next week and will order them in 3 or 4 separate times (budget problem) and i would just like to know if this is a good set up for gaming?

Gaming is definitely to be the main reason, then hd video watching, music, and... well you get the point, i'm a gamer.
I want to be able to play cod mw3 and bf3 at 1920x1080, max settings.

Here is what i have so far :

Monitor : Samsung B2330
Case : Cooler Master Haf X
Keyboards : Logitech G19 and G13
Mouse : Logitech G700
Headset : Logitech G930
Speakers : Logitech Z906
Mouse mat : Razer goliathus control fragged edition
Graphics card : Radeon HD 4870 (will buy newer card at later stadium)

Then what i'm buying :

ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME-Z B3 ROG
http://www.tones.be/product/maximus-iv-extreme-z-b3-ddr...

INTEL CORE™ I7-2700K 32NM
http://www.tones.be/product/core-i7-2700k-32nm-4-cores-...

120GB CORSAIR FORCE GT SERIES SSD
http://www.tones.be/product/cssd-f120gbgt-bk-120gb-forc...

16GB 2133MHZ DDR3 CORSAIR VENGEANCE RED
http://www.tones.be/product/cmz16gx3m4x2133c11r-16gb-ki...

2000GB CAVIAR BLACK
http://www.tones.be/product/wd2002faex-2000gb-64mb-sata...

850W CORSAIR PROFESSIONAL
http://www.tones.be/product/ax850-professional-series-g...

CORSAIR H100
http://www.tones.be/product/h100-hydro-series-cpu-coole...

PLEXTOR DVD RW
http://www.tones.be/product/px-l890sa

So tell me what you guys think and how long a computer like this could last me for high end gaming.

Thanks



1) I7 will bring nothing for gaming go with an I5
2) 16GB are overkill for gaming but since they are so cheap I can't blame yeah
3) 2133Hz ram are totaly useless for gaming the 1600Hz don,t even show performance gain over the 1333Hz in BF3. Some poeple goes for the 1600 because the price are just so cheap but I would never tell anyone to use the 2133Hz on a gaming rig.
4) PSU is probably good enough if you don't plan to ever go SLI/CF with a high end GPU
April 5, 2012 9:45:16 PM

Bah 1.65v RAM is alright for Sandy Bridge. It's the limit, but it's within tolerances. ASUS, GIGABYTE, Corsair, Patriot, etc. have all corroborated this info :) 

EDIT: Even SLI/CF of a high end GPU with 850w should be sufficient.
a b 4 Gaming
April 5, 2012 10:04:25 PM

Get a toggle NAND SSD. They are the fastest MLC based SSD's out. The Corsair GT uses Synchronous NAND.

Toggle NAND SSD's: Crucial m4, Intel SSD 510, Mushkin Chronos Deluxe, Sandisk Extreme, OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS, Patriot WildFire, Samsung 830 SSD

All toggle NAND SSD will perform the same as each other for all practical purposes, so it comes down to price & reliability.

Intel's will likely be the most reliable, while Sandisk's is the cheapest @120gb (Just picked up a sandisk, It seems like it'll also be fairly reliable. They've been making flash memory for a long time, and they were making enterprise SSD's before they ever became consumer level components.) Mushkin has the cheapest 240gb.

I would steer clear of OCZ. Both the reliability of their drives and the quality of their support are inconsistent.
a b 4 Gaming
April 5, 2012 11:17:52 PM

quicksand10 said:
Bah 1.65v RAM is alright for Sandy Bridge. It's the limit, but it's within tolerances. ASUS, GIGABYTE, Corsair, Patriot, etc. have all corroborated this info :) 

EDIT: Even SLI/CF of a high end GPU with 850w should be sufficient.


Have to correct you there. That was an early misconception. The actual voltage is 1.5V, but the allowed tolerance may be 10%.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/...

Quote:
System Memory Support
• Two channels of unbuffered DDR3 memory with a maximum of two UDIMMs or SO-DIMMs (for AIO) per channel
• Single-channel and dual-channel memory organization modes
• Data burst length of eight for all memory organization modes
• Memory DDR3 data transfer rates of 1066 MT/s and 1333 MT/s
• 64-bit wide channels
DDR3 I/O Voltage of 1.5 V {my bold}
• The type of memory supported by the processor is dependent on the PCH SKU in the target platform— Desktop PCH platforms support non-ECC un-buffered DIMMs only— All In One platforms (AIO) support SO-DIMMs


Since exceeding this actually voids the CPU warranty, it's really best to have 1.5V memory. I have been asked very pointedly by Intel support if my memory was 1.5V or not.

In another place is says specifically DDR3 1333Mhz 9-9-9-24 1.5V is the limit... sorry I don't have that reference to hand.
April 5, 2012 11:39:35 PM

Alright then, thanks for the correction, Proximon.

I guess, for Intel to honor the warranty, 1.5V RAM is the way to go.
Thanks!
April 6, 2012 12:03:36 AM

also keep in mind the speeds for intel warranty....
April 6, 2012 12:16:54 AM

I thought of the implications of a voided processor warranty, and realized, for most TH builds, it wasn't really a problem.

On Intel's site, they say processor overclocking (even multiplier changes in -K model CPUs) voids their warranty (even if Intel themselves tell you how to do it and, arguably, encourage you to do it through videos and etc.)

Quote:
WARNING: Altering clock frequency and/or voltage may: (i) reduce system stability and useful life of the system and processor; (ii) cause the processor and other system components to fail; (iii) cause reductions in system performance; (iv) cause additional heat or other damage; and (v) affect system data integrity. Intel has not tested, and does not warranty, the operation of the processor beyond its specifications. Intel assumes no responsibility that the processor, including if used with altered clock frequencies and/or voltages, will be fit for any particular purpose. For more information, visit www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/overclocking/ove... .


As it's already been shown that, despite what Intel might suggest, 1.65V RAM modules don't really cause any problems, and that most people around these forums do want to overclock, I won't suggest them to avoid 1.65V RAM modules like the plague, just because it voids the processor warranty...
April 6, 2012 12:28:18 AM

lol, love it :na: