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April 6, 2012 1:20:42 PM

I am a 3D Artist and casual gamerr. I would like to Upgrade my whole system so that Running Software Like Max or Maya/ zBrush will run smoothly and will not crash

I HAVE REASONABLY DEEP POCKETS FOR THIS PROJECT$3000'ish
I currently have a i7-920,
Sapphire 5870,
6 Gig RAM (Help Needed Choosing New Ones, I like Corsair Preferably),
3 crappy hard drives..... Will be getting SSD's ( can anyone help with a recommendation for those SSD as well. I was thinking Corsair as well?)

I Thinking of getting an i7 2600k soon. SHOULD I WAIT FOR IVY BRIDGE?

Am also looking at the Asus P8Z77 or TUF SABERTOOTH Z77. are these workstation/gaming worthy?


P8Z77V_DELUXE http://www.asus.com.au/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77V_DELUXE

SABERTOOTH_Z77 http://www.asus.com.au/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/SABERTOOTH_Z77


I am willing to sacrifice gaming specs, for rendering preformance in a 3D program like Max or Maya/ zBrush.

Im interested in the GTX 680 also , as i have no clue where to start for workstation cards.

I also have my eye on the

http://au.store.creative.com/sound-blaster/sound-blaster-recon3d-fatal1ty-champion/1-21093.aspx



I hope Someone can Help me or Steer me in the right or similar direction:) 
a b B Homebuilt system
April 6, 2012 6:43:38 PM

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K - - - - $600
ASUS P9X79 WS LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 SSI CEB Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -$400
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL - - - - - - - $90 X 2=32GB's - - $180
Corsair Obsidian Series 800D CC800DW Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - - - - -- $255 After MIR
Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-1200M 1200W ATX 12V v2.3 & SSI EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Active PFC Power Supply - - - - - $280
OCZ RevoDrive 3 X2 series RVD3X2-FHPX4-240G PCI-E 240GB PCI-Express 2.0 x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - - - - - - $655 X 2 for 480GB's - - - - $1310
Seagate Barracuda STBD2000101 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive for storage at $160 X 2 got $320
ATI 100-505604 FirePro V7800 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 CrossFire Supported Workstation Video Card for - - - - - $620 - - - 1 or 2???
As you probably know there is a BIG difference between workstation video cards for rendering, autocad and 3D rendering and Awesome gaming cards. While the price for each type of card follows the rules of better cards higher prices it is not recommended to try using a workstation video for gaming and viceaversa. You might get away with some lower end gaming with these cards but you won't be playing BF3 with much clarity. It will work - just not well. So if you also want a gaming card to switch into gaming mode then the GTX 680 will be a nice card - newegg doesn't have any instock right now but for about $500 from what I see. I don't know if you will be needing any cd/dvd/bluray drives but they are a dime a dozen so I didn't add any here.

I find the total is a little out of the budget pocket we were shooting for but I wasn't sure what deep pockets meant until I know how much of a rendering system you would require. The TOTAL as built comes to $3965 But that is for only the 1 firepro card and you might want 2 of them. Nor does it include the GTX you mentioned because I don't know if I hit the hole in the pocket or we just need to get into the other pocket.

If you wanted to save some money we could probably drop 1 of the TB HDD and 1 of the pcie SSD's but I think you would benefit from the 2 ssd. Did you see the TRANSFER SPEED on those things??? You'll be getting some work done there I'll tell you. Anyway, if you drop 1 TB drive And 1 SSD we can subtract $815 so that puts you back into the $3,000ish range at $3150. WOW what a difference 2 little parts make huh? As for the video cards - If the asus bios are anything like the gigabyte bios you get an option to boot from pcie1 or 2 or 3 or 4 pcie under video so you could put the firepro in slot 1 and the GTX in slot 2 and boot from whichever you wanted to do - work or play. For that matter you could boot into the game card, start the project, and while it's working in the background you can be gaming in the foreground.

There is always the option of getting the socket 2011 xeon chips and having multiple CPU's operating together and that would speed things up but I needed a place to start so I started here. Let me know if I'm even in the ballpark and we can go from there or we can laugh it off start with something older or cheaper.
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 6, 2012 7:07:09 PM

Your old system is still solid and will be able to play games at high settings.

My recommendation

Add another hd 5870 in your old system and make it as a gaming pc.

For your work pc i would suggest

intel i7 3930k
asus p9x79 ws motherboard.
Corsair dominator 4x4 gb 1600mhz ddr3 ram
cm hyper 212 evo
pny quadro 4000
pc power and cooling silencer mkii 750w 80+ silver psu
crucial m4 128 gb ssd for os and programs.
Wd carvier black 1tb x2 in raid 1 as storage for work files.
Windows 7 pro
cooler master storm trooper or silverstone raven full tower case.

The quadro 4000 will give advantage over normal gpus and will render quickly and accurately.

Hope this helps andd good luck for your build .


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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
April 6, 2012 7:43:11 PM

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OCZ RevoDrive 3 X2 series RVD3X2-FHPX4-240G PCI-E 240GB PCI-Express 2.0 x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - - - - - - $655 X 2 for 480GB's - - - - $1310


I will veto on the Revodrive - it's an expensive storage gimmick with a far greater chance of failure than any normal SSD would - and raiding them would produce an even greater risk of failure. No.



Why is Asus sticking with the plastic cover design? It was a total failure on the P67 and it will be a failure on the Z77, stick with the Deluxe.



Not necessary - put that money in your GPU, it's only needed if you're running some ridiculous high end audio equipment. I'll second the suggestion of keeping your i7-920 setup for your gaming rig and then building a killer workstation as your second PC.

For a $3K system here's what I would suggest:

Case: Corsair Carbide 500R - $165.00
PSU: Corsair HX850 - $215.00
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 - $365.00
CPU: 3.20GHz Intel Core i7-3930K - $629.00
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 Socket LGA 2011 Edition - $89.00
RAM: 16GB G.Skill Ares 1600MHz 1.6V - $129.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $179.00
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda ST - $139.00
Optical: LG BD-R Burner - $65.00
Video Card: ATI Fire Pro V7900 - $699.99
OS: Windows 7 Pro - $139.00

Total: $2783.99
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 6, 2012 7:57:57 PM

Hey gunit i would suggest to change the ram as its 1.6 v

also maya uses cuda and it will boost rendering power.
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
April 6, 2012 9:08:54 PM

serialkiller said:
Hey gunit i would suggest to change the ram as its 1.6 v

also maya uses cuda and it will boost rendering power.


It says it will work on X79 - unless I was told wrong. X79 isn't as picky about RAM as Sandy Bridge is judging from the reviews I've been reading.

Yeah you could also use a Quaddro in that system but Quaddros are ridiculously expensive compared to their Fire Pro counterparts.
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April 7, 2012 5:40:30 AM

Thanks For all The Response's Guys and Gals.


OK SO FAR COMPILED PLAUSIBLE OPTIONS


Case: Corsair Graphite 600T White - $206.00
PSU: Corsair HX850 - ALREADY OWN
Motherboard:ASUS P8Z77-V D - $339.00
CPU: 3.5 GHz Intel Core i7-3770K - $320.00 (NOT AVAILABLE YET)
Cooler:Corsair (cc) H80 - $139.00
RAM: 16GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE 1866MHz 1.5V - $170.00
SSD: Corsair Force Series GT 240GB SSD - $365.00
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda ST - $139.00
Optical: LG CH12LS28 12X BD-R Blu-ray DVD Combo - $65.00
Video Card: ATI FirePro v7900 - $700.00
OS: Windows 7 Pro - $139.00

Total: $2443.00


Im Quite happy with Leaving the Pro Gaming Behind and Focus This on A True Workstation.


What do you guy's and gal's think/change about it?



But Im still Wondering , as I have the time to wait, (3 Months Holidays)

SHOULD I wait for that Ivy Bridge Model to come out And the compatible MoBO's respectively. As I said I have the time to wait.

Oh and should I go for RAM that has more speed like 1866 (What do I need to look out for when Purchasing Ram, latency.....?)


Im Trying to sort this out For When i get back from holidays, I can see about picking some stuff up maybe cheaper over there. YOU know, when your on holidays work still comes with you...
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
April 7, 2012 6:43:57 AM

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What do you guy's and gal's think/change about it?



But Im still Wondering , as I have the time to wait, (3 Months Holidays)

SHOULD I wait for that Ivy Bridge Model to come out And the compatible MoBO's respectively. As I said I have the time to wait.


That looks good - just make sure you get quad channel RAM and you don't get the Vengeance with the tall heat sinks.

As far as waiting goes - by the time you're ready to buy - Ivy Bridge-E should be out, which will also make use of the X79 platform.
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April 7, 2012 8:23:57 AM

So dont get vengeance...
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 7, 2012 8:32:52 AM

No get vengence low profile ram
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April 7, 2012 10:05:36 AM

Would the Heat Sinks cause any problems or just space reasons inside the case?
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a b B Homebuilt system
April 7, 2012 10:28:59 AM

Ploblem fitting cpu cooler
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April 7, 2012 10:52:51 AM

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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
April 7, 2012 7:00:05 PM

RJACKET said:
Would the Heat Sinks cause any problems or just space reasons inside the case?


No - the Carbide will fit pretty much any heat sink on the market you can get - where the issues lie is where the fan rests on top of the RAM - the tall heat spreaders will block it.
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