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FX-4100 vs Phenom II x4 965 Please Help!!

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July 19, 2012 8:42:31 PM

Ive read tons of stuff on both processors and looked at tons of benchmarks, but all the reviews and results are mixed. I need help picking one for my new system, which is going to be a budget build for gaming

FX-4100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Phenom II x4 965 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Please share your opinion and experiences with both if you can.

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July 19, 2012 8:47:50 PM

965 BE. Not really any discussion needed, honestly. It's just flat out better.
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July 19, 2012 8:57:14 PM

yah but as proven by toms hardware i'll just recommend an intel build but if you have already narrowed it down to those two then the 965 BE is better
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July 19, 2012 9:48:22 PM

Deneb C3 if you must AMD it. Per core performance is much better as well as more total full function cores. Even then, I noticed a lot of lagging when things get busy running StarCraft 2, something you might consider if you play CPU intensive games.

If you OC though, you will need a better cooler, which can cost up to 100 dollars (if you go that route). Consider adding that cost to the CPU cost. If you add that heatsink price to the base CPU price, so the total ranges from about 150 to maybe 200 dollars, you might as well get an Intel Sandy Bridge based CPU on a new Z77 motherboard.

No amount of overclocking that old Deneb will get you Sandy Bridge like performance.
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July 19, 2012 10:01:20 PM

Maxx_Power said:
If you OC though, you will need a better cooler, which can cost up to 100 dollars (if you go that route). Consider adding that cost to the CPU cost. If you add that heatsink price to the base CPU price, so the total ranges from about 150 to maybe 200 dollars, you might as well get an Intel Sandy Bridge based CPU on a new Z77 motherboard.

No amount of overclocking that old Deneb will get you Sandy Bridge like performance.

While I'll admit that you'll definitely not be able to match Sandy Bridge performance at $160+, the 965BE (being only $110) is a definite competitor to something like an i3-2120 ($125). That said, a Hyper 212 EVO ($35) will be able to keep the 965 cool under an overclock. So that'll total about $145.

Considering Intel has nothing at that price point, if you're looking to spend no more than $150, that'll be your best bet.
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July 19, 2012 11:52:21 PM

The 965 is far better then the 4100. An Hyper 212 EVO is a beastly cooler in it's own right and if you want something even a little bit more, I suggest you look into a Corsair H60. $65 will get a very nice water cooling setup and let you really push that 965. Plus it's a ton quieter then the 212.
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July 19, 2012 11:55:05 PM

stant1rm said:
if you want something even a little bit more, I suggest you look into a Corsair H60. $65 will get a very nice water cooling setup and let you really push that 965. Plus it's a ton quieter then the 212.


Not really. The H60 is just ~1C cooler than a 212 Evo on average. Add a second fan to the 212 Evo and it beats the H60 under load. Not really that much quieter either.
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