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April 7, 2012 8:58:28 PM

So I have decided to do a sort of upgrade/new build when Ivy bridge comes. I plan on upgrading my mobo CPU and RAM I have a mATX case along with a 500w Powersupply, a 1tb HDD Windows 7 and a monitor I also have a old HD 4850 512mb. This PC will be a single GPU build and generally be used for general computing and browsing the web. I will use my old HD4850 for now as I am not gaming that much, but would like the ability to upgrade to a better card in the future.

Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here are the options I am considering



Option 1

2500k and ASROCK z68 board from microventer with hyper 212 plus and 8gb RAM from newegg

motherboard:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I can get this motherboard and a 2500k from microcenter for $250 w/ tax. I might be abble to get a similar deal with a Z77 motherboard when they come out next week, but I'm not sure. Do you guys think that my power supply would be able to handle overclocking the 2500k and possibly upgrading to a more power hungry video card in the future?

Option 2


Wait for Ivy Bridge 3570k and Z77 boards and buy with Hyper 212 and 8gb ram

I think I might be able to get a similar deal to the one above with the 3570k but am not sure if the Z77 boards will be as cheap as the Z68 boards or if it is worth waiting for the features brought in ivy bridge/ Z77.

Option 3


Get an i3 2100 now or wait for ivy bridge equivilant and don't bother overclocking

This would be much cheaper than the other two options, but I don't want to regret not having a more powerful CPU down the line. Ideally I would like to use this CPU MOBO RAM combo for the next 5 years or so.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

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April 7, 2012 9:00:17 PM

If you want all the benefits of IB, you will need a IB CPU as well as Z77/75 MOBO.
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April 7, 2012 9:25:39 PM

What exactly are the specific benefits of Z77/75 boards over Z68. I've heard the UEFI is a little more fleshed out in these right?
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April 7, 2012 11:02:05 PM

I vote for option 1.

The microcenter price is very good, and probably $100 less than a ivy bridge/z77 combo will be.
You have a discrete graphics card so some level of baming will be ok.
I see little benefit to Z77 over z68, at least so far.

Option 3 is no good with your budget. Interim steps are always expensive.
Also, the initial ivy bridge launch will be quads only. duo's will come later.

Your psu is not a great unit, and will probably not be sufficient for a much stronger card than the 4850 or gtx560ti .
When the mid range 28nm cards are available, that might change.
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April 7, 2012 11:52:45 PM

Yea those are good points. From what I've read intel's new chipset doesn't seem to offer any new must have features and Ivy Bridge doesn't seem to give any big jumps in performance on the CPU side of things one thing I read said that they seem to run hotter as well.
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April 7, 2012 11:54:02 PM

IB will natively support PCIe 3.0, which is much faster than 2.0.
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April 8, 2012 12:03:43 AM

Hmmm what I've heard is that today's graphics cards don't come close to using the bandwidth that PCIe 2.1 has.
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April 8, 2012 12:05:16 AM

That is because SB is not fully optimized for 2.1. IB will be ready to make full use of PCIe 3.0.
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April 8, 2012 12:09:28 AM

Azeem40 - the reason is - cards can't max out the available bandwidth. IB may be PCIe3.0 but there won't be much to use all that bandwidth.
-Bruce
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April 8, 2012 12:20:51 AM

Right now I'm leaning towards being patient and waiting for the new chipsets and Ivy bridge to come out then looking at my options then. Although its a good deal from microcenter there CPUs are consistently cheaper than MSRP anyway and they will pretty frequently take $30-$50 off the price of your mobo if you buy it with a new CPU. Even if Ivy bridge turns out to be a disappointment I am sure I will be able to snatch up a cheap 2500k from someone who is looking to upgrade
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April 8, 2012 3:20:56 AM

door # 2!!
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April 8, 2012 4:11:59 AM

The new Asus board got built in Wifi, might not be the best implimentation still saves me the trouble of getting a dedicated card.
http://www.asus.com.au/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P...

Beside that there is no hard in waiting for a few more days. Z77 is dues to be released really soon.
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April 8, 2012 1:06:46 PM

I've been wondering about the same thing. I'll hijack the thread quickly and ask this:

When the IB processors come out, will the SB processors like the i5-2500k still be available from retailers? So if we decide that we want to go with SB processors to save a little money when the IB processors come out, can we still buy them?
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April 8, 2012 3:39:32 PM

ddan49 said:
I've been wondering about the same thing. I'll hijack the thread quickly and ask this:

When the IB processors come out, will the SB processors like the i5-2500k still be available from retailers? So if we decide that we want to go with SB processors to save a little money when the IB processors come out, can we still buy them?


Yes, sb will still be sold new, and will not be initially discounted. They are needed for the replacement market which is not price sensitive.
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April 9, 2012 3:48:29 AM

geofelt said:
Yes, sb will still be sold new, and will not be initially discounted. They are needed for the replacement market which is not price sensitive.


In other word no price drop for the Sandybridge is expected?
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April 9, 2012 4:28:32 AM

zhihao50 said:
In other word no price drop for the Sandybridge is expected?


Correct. Just my opinion, but this has been the Intel approach .
Just look at the ssd market. The older X25-M 80gb drive is priced at $179 and the newer, faster 320 80gb drive is $139.

Or, look at the 1156 i3-550 @ $125 which is not nearly as good as the socket 1155 sandy i3-2100 for the same price.

You will see price drops on the used market though.
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April 9, 2012 4:29:10 AM

dish_moose said:
Azeem40 - the reason is - cards can't max out the available bandwidth. IB may be PCIe3.0 but there won't be much to use all that bandwidth.
-Bruce

IB will make use of PCIe 3.0, just like LGA 2011 does.
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April 9, 2012 12:10:43 PM

WILL, but don't yet. I'd say it's a good idea to buy a Z77 if you can, but if you buy a Z68, the world's not gonna end ;) 
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