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April 8, 2012 1:30:28 AM

I have a antec case and a copy of windows 7 pro that wont factor into my price. I'm a fan of intel over amd. I don't play games ever, but I do HD video editing and solidworks (3D cad). I'm thinking about an i5 or i7, 8+gb of ram, decent video card, onboard sound is fine, especially if it has optical out. I have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc. I'm looking for advice on a MB and chipset. I like asus, but I'm open to gigabyte or MSI or Intel. I don't overclock and like everything quiet. I don't need any optical drives. I used to know about all this stuff, but I don't have time to read up on everything that has changed so much. My fastest desktop is a core2 quad at 2.83Ghz and the one that this will replace is a P4 2.8Ghz with only 1gb ram. Hopefully I'll get a few replies from people that are up on the current equipment to help me get this rolling ASAP.

Mainboard = ?
Chip = ?
Ram = 8gb+ of ? 1600mhz would be nice
video card = ?
Power supply = ?
Hard drive = ? (has to be solid state and fast) only ~60gb needed for that because I have 2TB on my network.

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April 8, 2012 1:46:08 AM

Brief chipset explanation for Intel's LGA 1155 Sandy Bridge (and Ivy Bridge moving forward).

H61 Motherboards - Cheapest. No overclocking options, allows use of on die CPU video.
P67 Motherboards - Midrange price, overclocking, and no on die video allowed, must have discrete GPU.
Z68 Motherboards - Highest prices, but combines benefits of H61 and P67 plus adds solid state drive caching, switchable graphics and possible PCI 3.0 support.

If I were you I'd go with the following...

Mainboard = H61 Chipset, Asus HP8H61-M, $85.
Chip = Intel i5 2500 Quad core CPU @ 3.3GHz and Turbo mode up to 3.7Ghz. $200
Ram = 8GB Corsair Vengence Low Profile RAM CML8GX3M2A1600C9. $55
video card = ???
Power supply = Corsair TX 650. $75
Hard drive = Samsung 830 Series MZ-7PC064D/AM 64GB SSD. $110

Total of $525 without GPU and before taxes and shipping.

I'm not sure about the Solid Works portion of your request. All cards which are listed as being supported are Quadro or Firepro workstation GPU which means $$$$$$$$. Do you have experience running this program with normal desktop GPU's?
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April 8, 2012 1:56:49 AM

I've run solidworks on a core 2 duo standard lenovo at work and it ran ok. I don't do anything super complicated and its a small percentage of my computer use. I looked into prebuilt PCs after I saw that soldworks had a $750 rebate on $2000 Dell PCs, but they go up in price super fast with the Xeon processors. One option for a processor upgrade was an additional $4000! I'm willing to wait a bit longer and keep $8-9K in my pocket! Thanks for the recommendations!
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April 8, 2012 2:00:16 AM

Okay, so it seems as though most people have no issue running Solid Works with Geforce or Radeon cards so for a good balance between performance and cost I'd go with an Asus Geforce GTX 550 Ti which provides 192 computation cores and should be more than enough for Solid Works and provide faster video encoding than the CPU is capable of.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Note that you may have to do some messing around with drivers and Softworks to get thing up and running. But the alternative Quadro card costs 4x as much so...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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April 8, 2012 2:08:04 AM

Add Z77 chipset based motherboards to the mix: native USB3.0 (not worth it IMHO)

Basically, you have to ask yourself: what is more important, speed on SolidWorks or speed with the video editing?
If video editing, go with a consumer card: AMD Radeon HD 7850
Otherwise, if you're ready to spend on a workstation graphics card, go with the most expensive FirePro or Quadro you can afford (entry level FirePro starts at ~100$, not that I would suggest it...)

I would suggest an Intel i7 build (as video editing and 3D CAD both employ hyperthreading). But before that, a little word on overclocking.

Overclocking used to be difficult, but it's not anymore. With a simple change of the multiplier, my i5-2500k went from 3.3GHz to 4.1GHz (beyond that, I needed to play with my ASUS P8Z68-V LX's VCore offset settings). The reason I'm saying this is because it makes quite a performance difference, and if you want a quiet build, you're better off with an aftermarket cooler anyway.

That said, to decide between a more solid GPU vs. an Intel i7 processor, you need to see, used with your applications, which one makes the greater difference. If you choose the GPU, then go with an i5-2400 instead of the i5-2500. Personally, since it's not a gaming build, I would go with an i7-2600k and an AMD Radeon HD 7850.

Intel i7-2600k (newegg special 300$, it's quite a steal!)
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO (~30$) + Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste (~10$)
ASUS P8Z68-V LX (~115$)
8GB Corsair Vengence Low Profile RAM CML8GX3M2A1600C9 as suggested by 87ninefiveone (~55$)
AMD Radeon HD 7850 (brand of your choice) (~260$)
Corsair TX650 as suggested by 87ninefiveone (~75$)
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe 60GB SSD (~85$)

Total: ~930$ + tax + shipping - rebates
---no case, mouse, keyboard, speakers, OS, optical drive, storage drive---

Pretty solid if you ask me :) 
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April 8, 2012 2:41:30 PM

Thanks guys! I really appreciate the help!
I'm pretty set on the following

MB = Asus P8Z68-V LX (quicksand10)
8GB Corsair Vengence Low Profile RAM CML8GX3M2A1600C9 as suggested by 87ninefiveone (~55$) (is it worth going to 16bg?)
Corsair TX650 as suggested by 87ninefiveone (~75$)

Im not 100% on these options.
Asus - VGA ATI HD7850-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD7870 Pcie 2GB GDDR5 $250
The mushkin HDs are on back order, but they look nicer than the samsungs. I saw some stuff where a bigger SSD is faster than a smaller one. Is it worth getting a 120 even if I only need a 60?
i5 or i7, I'm still up in the air. I guess is depends on my extra cash over the next week or so.


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April 8, 2012 7:54:31 PM

Here's a good quick article on SSD's and a chart showing the rough hierarchy in performance.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-review-benchmar...

Larger drives to tend to be a bit faster for some reason. If you don't mind dropping the cash then 120GB is the way to go as a primary boot drive, especially since they've now come down to $175 or so for 120GB. When the Z68 platform debuted last summer though they were priced more in the neighborhood of $250-300 which made the SSD caching feature of the Z68 motherboards more attractive since you could pick up a 32GB or 64GB drive for around $100-150 and get 80% of the benefit of SSD speed without having to worry about storage space. Since a lot of 60GB drives are still around $100, I would strongly suggest going the 120GB route for only a bit more, but keep in mind that SSD caching via Intel RST software is an option that will save you some money while still giving most of the benefits of a larger drive.

In regards to RAM, you'll never use 16BG. Using between 3-4 GB under heavy computing is normal and going up to 8GB is very rare. I see a lot of suggestions for 16GB, but I've never been told exactly what it is people are doing that they would ever require that much memory. Buy a 4GB x 2 kit for now and you can always add more later, memory is cheap these days.

The AMD Radeon HD 7870 is a great card, but it's probably a lot more GPU than you'll ever need. If you are going to spend that much money on a GPU I would strongly suggest you look into the nVidia Quadro cards or AMD Firepro series, they're Solid Works compatible and won't give you near as much trouble.
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April 8, 2012 8:11:58 PM

Check out my $650 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Switch the i5 2400 to the i7 2600 (+110)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Switch the 6870 for a Quadro or FirePro card as suggested above. I suggest the AMD Firepro V4900 @ $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $757

SSD - Mushkin 120GB Chronos $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A steal for a SATA 3 SSD, solid buy for sure.
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April 8, 2012 8:39:50 PM

aznshinobi said:
Check out my $650 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Switch the i5 2400 to the i7 2600 (+110)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Switch the 6870 for a Quadro or FirePro card as suggested above. I suggest the AMD Firepro V4900 @ $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $757

SSD - Mushkin 120GB Chronos $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A steal for a SATA 3 SSD, solid buy for sure.

I have that SSD and it is amazing! OS loads in 10 seconds. :) 
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April 17, 2012 2:48:44 PM

Best answer selected by jgorm.
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April 23, 2012 3:06:45 PM

I got everything fired up! Thanks for all your help!

MB = Asus P8Z68-V LX (quicksand10)
8GB Corsair Vengence Low Profile RAM CML8GX3M2A1600C9 as suggested by 87ninefiveone
Corsair TX650 as suggested by 87ninefiveone
Sapphire HD7850 video card (they were sold out of asus)
Corsair 120 gb force drive
WD 2TB storage backup drive
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO (its a bad ass monster!)
Intel i7-2600k
Win7 pro
Asus DVD drive (for SATA because no ide on this MB)
Antec sonata proto (sucks because it only has usb3 on the front but the MB has no usb3 plug for it)a

Its super fast and super quiet! I went a touch over budget:) 
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