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June 29, 2011 3:04:20 PM

Probably a really dumb question, but networking is the one area of computing about which I am clueless. We have two desktop PC's (on different floors) that are currently networked via a hardwired router. We wanted wireless but at the time it was installed, the technician said it would not work because there is a metal floor separating the two (because one room is partially under the garage). The internet hook-up comes into the basement pc; I would like to have wireless at least on the main floor. My first question: has wireless improved sufficiently that I can connect two or three pc's that are a considerable distance and a metal floor apart? If not, can I add a second, wireless, router on the main floor. FYI, at the moment we are dealing with three different operating systems: Windows 7 in the basment, XP on the main floor; Vista on the laptop ... although we will probably be all "7" fairly soon. Appreciate any help anyone can give me. Thanks.

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a b F Wireless
June 29, 2011 11:05:29 PM

It sounds like you should add a second wireless router. I have two in my home, and basically you just need to do this:

Set you first router to use channel 1 or 6 or 11 for wireless.
Take the second router, disable DHCP, set it to channel 1 or 6 or 11 (but different than the first), and set the SSID, pass-phrase, and other security settings to be exactly the same as the first router.
Connect the second router to the first with a cable through a REGULAR port, not the WAN port.

You will now be able to portable wireless devices anywhere n your home, and they will automatically use the wireless router with the best signal.
June 30, 2011 9:46:23 AM

PhilFrisbie said:

Set you first router to use channel 1 or 6 or 11 for wireless.
Take the second router, disable DHCP, set it to channel 1 or 6 or 11 (but different than the first), and set the SSID, pass-phrase, and other security settings to be exactly the same as the first router.
Connect the second router to the first with a cable through a REGULAR port, not the WAN port.

You will now be able to portable wireless devices anywhere n your home, and they will automatically use the wireless router with the best signal.


Don't you also need to set the second router to have a static IP (outside the range allocated on the main router)?

Also, you say that devices will automatically use the wireless router with the best signal, but in my experience devices (such as iPhones) hang on the weak signal right to the bitter end, making the set up pretty useless.

I REALLY want to get a set up like this working in my home, but I just can't seem to crack it. Would a Linksys WRT54GL be the best option for the second router (running custom firmware of course)?. Should I change from using a BT Homehub 2 for my main router (if you know what one of those is)?

Thanks, Glenn
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a b F Wireless
June 30, 2011 7:46:21 PM

Yes, forgot about the static IP address on the second router.

As to devices, the only thing I have problems with is an Android tablet. It is just like what you describe, but two Windows laptops move from one to the other just fine.
a b F Wireless
July 1, 2011 7:28:48 PM

Yes, do as PhilFrisbie recommends, and change the WRT54GL router to an 'N' router.
February 12, 2014 7:58:46 AM

Hi Phil,..............................................................................................................................February 12, 2014

I saw your answer to “finpits” of June 30, 2011 on Tomshardware blog, and this is as close as I can find to what I want to do.

Would you please have a look at it and give me your comments, or advice.

Many Thanks,

Rolf Schreiner
schreinerrolf@gmail.com
===========================================================

I would like to use my Sitecom router as an access point. Is this the way to do it?

I am using Windows 7 Ultimate and I have a Ubee UVW-3200 cable Modem/Router. On port 1, I connect a second Sitecom dual band Wi-Wi Router AC1750 WLR-8100 connected to its WAN port.

I would like my Sitecom Router to become an Access Point with the same (2.4 GHz) SSID as the Ubee Modem/Router, so that I can “roam” throughout the house without losing signal. The 5.0 GHz Wi-Fi of the Sitecom AP should still be useable when within reach.

Current configuration settings: (Sitecom as Router):
...................................Ubee Router...........Sitecom Router
LAN IP adres:...............192.168.178.1........192.168.10.1
DHCP Server:................Enabled................Enabled
Ipv4 address:................192.168.178.10......192.168.178.10
DHCP Status:...............No DHCP clients...Show all clients
2.4 GHz Radio:.............Disabled................Enabled
5.0 GHz Radio:.............N/A.......................Enabled
2.4 GHz - SSID:....... ....Ziggo5C5CC..........Sitecom0F7FF1
2.4 GHz channel:..........Disabled................Automatic
5.0 GHz channel:..........N/A.......................Automatic
2.4 GHz security:.........WPA+PSK............WPA+PSK
2.4 GHz password:.......Ubee’s own PW.....Sitecom’s own PW
5.0 GHz - SSID:...........N/A.......................Sitecom0F7FF2
5.0 GHz security:.........N/A.......................WPA+PSK
5.0 GHz password:.......N/A.......................Sitecom’s own PW
Network connection:.....LAN Port 1............WAN Port

Proposed configuration settings: (Sitecom as Access Point):
..................................Ubee Router...........Sitecom Access Point
LAN IP address:..........192.168.178.1.........192.168.178.2
DHCP Server:...............Enabled.................Disabled
Ipv4 address:...............192.168.178.10........N/A
DHCP Status:..............Show all clients.......N/A
2.4 GHz Radio:............Enabled..................Enabled
5.0 GHz Radio:............N/A........................Enabled
2.4 GHz - SSID:...........Ziggo5C5CC...........Ziggo5C5CC
2.4 GHz channel:........1, 6, 11, or Auto.......1, 6, 11, or Auto
5.0 GHz channel:.........N/A........................Automatic
2.4 GHz security:.........WPA+PSK.............WPA+PSK
2.4 GHz – password:....Ubee’s own PW......Ubee’s own PW
5.0 GHz SSID:..............N/A.......................Sitecom0F7FF2
5.0 GHz security:..........N/A.......................WPA+PSK
5.0 GHz password:........N/A.......................Sitecom’s own PW
Network connection:......LAN Port 1.............LAN Port 1

Questions:
1. Will this configuration work as intended?
2. Can I have the same 2.4 GHz SSID (Ziggo5C5CC) on my Ubee Router and my Sitecom AP?
3. Will I still have cabled internet on my Sitecom AP?
4. Will I still have Wi-Fi internet on 2.4GHz and 5.0 GHz of my Sitecom AP?
5. With its DHCP disabled, can I still acces the Sitecom AP configuration page through my PC browser when using the Windows 7 TCP/IPv4 configuration of “obtaining an IP address automatically”, or do I have to use the Windows 7 PC TCP/Ipv4 configuration of “use the following IP address:”, and enter the new Sitecom LAN IP address of: 192.168.178.2?

If I do not do things right, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Many Thanks,

Rolf Schreiner
schreinerrolf@gmail.com
February 13, 2014 10:15:53 PM

Peter Xu said:
Hi Phil,..............................................................................................................................February 12, 2014

I saw your answer to “finpits” of June 30, 2011 on Tomshardware blog, and this is as close as I can find to what I want to do.

Would you please have a look at it and give me your comments, or advice.

Many Thanks,

Rolf Schreiner
schreinerrolf@gmail.com
===========================================================

I would like to use my Sitecom router as an access point. Is this the way to do it?

I am using Windows 7 Ultimate and I have a Ubee UVW-3200 cable Modem/Router. On port 1, I connect a second Sitecom dual band Wi-Wi Router AC1750 WLR-8100 connected to its WAN port.

I would like my Sitecom Router to become an Access Point with the same (2.4 GHz) SSID as the Ubee Modem/Router, so that I can “roam” throughout the house without losing signal. The 5.0 GHz Wi-Fi of the Sitecom AP should still be useable when within reach.

Current configuration settings: (Sitecom as Router):
...................................Ubee Router...........Sitecom Router
LAN IP adres:...............192.168.178.1........192.168.10.1
DHCP Server:................Enabled................Enabled
Ipv4 address:................192.168.178.10......192.168.178.10
DHCP Status:...............No DHCP clients...Show all clients
2.4 GHz Radio:.............Disabled................Enabled
5.0 GHz Radio:.............N/A.......................Enabled
2.4 GHz - SSID:....... ....Ziggo5C5CC..........Sitecom0F7FF1
2.4 GHz channel:..........Disabled................Automatic
5.0 GHz channel:..........N/A.......................Automatic
2.4 GHz security:.........WPA+PSK............WPA+PSK
2.4 GHz password:.......Ubee’s own PW.....Sitecom’s own PW
5.0 GHz - SSID:...........N/A.......................Sitecom0F7FF2
5.0 GHz security:.........N/A.......................WPA+PSK
5.0 GHz password:.......N/A.......................Sitecom’s own PW
Network connection:.....LAN Port 1............WAN Port

Proposed configuration settings: (Sitecom as Access Point):
..................................Ubee Router...........Sitecom Access Point
LAN IP address:..........192.168.178.1.........192.168.178.2
DHCP Server:...............Enabled.................Disabled
Ipv4 address:...............192.168.178.10........N/A
DHCP Status:..............Show all clients.......N/A
2.4 GHz Radio:............Enabled..................Enabled
5.0 GHz Radio:............N/A........................Enabled
2.4 GHz - SSID:...........Ziggo5C5CC...........Ziggo5C5CC
2.4 GHz channel:........1, 6, 11, or Auto.......1, 6, 11, or Auto
5.0 GHz channel:.........N/A........................Automatic
2.4 GHz security:.........WPA+PSK.............WPA+PSK
2.4 GHz – password:....Ubee’s own PW......Ubee’s own PW
5.0 GHz SSID:..............N/A.......................Sitecom0F7FF2
5.0 GHz security:..........N/A.......................WPA+PSK
5.0 GHz password:........N/A.......................Sitecom’s own PW
Network connection:......LAN Port 1.............LAN Port 1

Questions:
1. Will this configuration work as intended?
2. Can I have the same 2.4 GHz SSID (Ziggo5C5CC) on my Ubee Router and my Sitecom AP?
3. Will I still have cabled internet on my Sitecom AP?
4. Will I still have Wi-Fi internet on 2.4GHz and 5.0 GHz of my Sitecom AP?
5. With its DHCP disabled, can I still acces the Sitecom AP configuration page through my PC browser when using the Windows 7 TCP/IPv4 configuration of “obtaining an IP address automatically”, or do I have to use the Windows 7 PC TCP/Ipv4 configuration of “use the following IP address:”, and enter the new Sitecom LAN IP address of: 192.168.178.2?

If I do not do things right, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Many Thanks,

Rolf Schreiner
schreinerrolf@gmail.com

UTT Technologies To answer you questions:
1. This configuration seems all right. Don't forget to connect the two routers with a cable.
2. SSID should be different.
3.Yes, you will.
4 Yes, you will.
5.You will have to use the Windows 7 PC TCP/Ipv4 configuration of “use the following IP address:”, and enter the new Sitecom LAN IP address of: 192.168.178.2 or other IP address of same segment since DHCP has been disabled, AP will be distribute IP addresses automatically.

UTT Technologies: http://uttglobal.com/

February 14, 2014 4:52:15 AM

Henry Chang said:
Peter Xu said:
Hi Phil,..............................................................................................................................February 12, 2014

I saw your answer to “finpits” of June 30, 2011 on Tomshardware blog, and this is as close as I can find to what I want to do.

Would you please have a look at it and give me your comments, or advice.

Many Thanks,

Rolf Schreiner
schreinerrolf@gmail.com
===========================================================

I would like to use my Sitecom router as an access point. Is this the way to do it?

I am using Windows 7 Ultimate and I have a Ubee UVW-3200 cable Modem/Router. On port 1, I connect a second Sitecom dual band Wi-Wi Router AC1750 WLR-8100 connected to its WAN port.

I would like my Sitecom Router to become an Access Point with the same (2.4 GHz) SSID as the Ubee Modem/Router, so that I can “roam” throughout the house without losing signal. The 5.0 GHz Wi-Fi of the Sitecom AP should still be useable when within reach.

Current configuration settings: (Sitecom as Router):
...................................Ubee Router...........Sitecom Router
LAN IP adres:...............192.168.178.1........192.168.10.1
DHCP Server:................Enabled................Enabled
Ipv4 address:................192.168.178.10......192.168.178.10
DHCP Status:...............No DHCP clients...Show all clients
2.4 GHz Radio:.............Disabled................Enabled
5.0 GHz Radio:.............N/A.......................Enabled
2.4 GHz - SSID:....... ....Ziggo5C5CC..........Sitecom0F7FF1
2.4 GHz channel:..........Disabled................Automatic
5.0 GHz channel:..........N/A.......................Automatic
2.4 GHz security:.........WPA+PSK............WPA+PSK
2.4 GHz password:.......Ubee’s own PW.....Sitecom’s own PW
5.0 GHz - SSID:...........N/A.......................Sitecom0F7FF2
5.0 GHz security:.........N/A.......................WPA+PSK
5.0 GHz password:.......N/A.......................Sitecom’s own PW
Network connection:.....LAN Port 1............WAN Port

Proposed configuration settings: (Sitecom as Access Point):
..................................Ubee Router...........Sitecom Access Point
LAN IP address:..........192.168.178.1.........192.168.178.2
DHCP Server:...............Enabled.................Disabled
Ipv4 address:...............192.168.178.10........N/A
DHCP Status:..............Show all clients.......N/A
2.4 GHz Radio:............Enabled..................Enabled
5.0 GHz Radio:............N/A........................Enabled
2.4 GHz - SSID:...........Ziggo5C5CC...........Ziggo5C5CC
2.4 GHz channel:........1, 6, 11, or Auto.......1, 6, 11, or Auto
5.0 GHz channel:.........N/A........................Automatic
2.4 GHz security:.........WPA+PSK.............WPA+PSK
2.4 GHz – password:....Ubee’s own PW......Ubee’s own PW
5.0 GHz SSID:..............N/A.......................Sitecom0F7FF2
5.0 GHz security:..........N/A.......................WPA+PSK
5.0 GHz password:........N/A.......................Sitecom’s own PW
Network connection:......LAN Port 1.............LAN Port 1

Questions:
1. Will this configuration work as intended?
2. Can I have the same 2.4 GHz SSID (Ziggo5C5CC) on my Ubee Router and my Sitecom AP?
3. Will I still have cabled internet on my Sitecom AP?
4. Will I still have Wi-Fi internet on 2.4GHz and 5.0 GHz of my Sitecom AP?
5. With its DHCP disabled, can I still acces the Sitecom AP configuration page through my PC browser when using the Windows 7 TCP/IPv4 configuration of “obtaining an IP address automatically”, or do I have to use the Windows 7 PC TCP/Ipv4 configuration of “use the following IP address:”, and enter the new Sitecom LAN IP address of: 192.168.178.2?

If I do not do things right, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Many Thanks,

Rolf Schreiner
schreinerrolf@gmail.com

UTT Technologies To answer you questions:
1. This configuration seems all right. Don't forget to connect the two routers with a cable.
2. SSID should be different.
3.Yes, you will.
4 Yes, you will.
5.You will have to use the Windows 7 PC TCP/Ipv4 configuration of “use the following IP address:”, and enter the new Sitecom LAN IP address of: 192.168.178.2 or other IP address of same segment since DHCP has been disabled, AP will be distribute IP addresses automatically.

UTT Technologies: http://uttglobal.com/



Hi Henry,

Thanks for your prompt reply. I will try as you suggest. One question still. Do I really need to wet the two SSID's different, and if so, can I then still "roam" seemless from one router to another (AP)?
I am asking this because our friend PhilFrisbie on June 30, 2011 said this:

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PhilFrisbie said:

Set you first router to use channel 1 or 6 or 11 for wireless.
Take the second router, disable DHCP, set it to channel 1 or 6 or 11 (but different than the first), and set the SSID, pass-phrase, and other security settings to be exactly the same as the first router.
Connect the second router to the first with a cable through a REGULAR port, not the WAN port.

You will now be able to portable wireless devices anywhere n your home, and they will automatically use the wireless router with the best signal.
Unquote

I do not really understand what the role of the SSID (same or different) in my home network setup is.

Thanks and best regards,

Rolf Schreiner
schreinerrolf@gmail.com
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