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April 9, 2012 5:22:47 AM

Hello everyone :hello:  , this is going to be my first time posting on the forums and would like some advice on my budget gaming pc. I have saved up and could spend $500-$600(preferably UNDER 600). I don't need to max out games but I will be playing games like BF3, Skyrim,COD and many other games. So here is the template and at the bottom, my parts that I have picked(I know a couple things about pc parts).

Approximate Purchase Date: Over the Summer

Budget Range: $500

System Usage from Most to Least Usage: BF3, Skyrim, COD, Internet, Music, Movies

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon, Tiger Direct, (not Newegg because they have state sales tax which bumps up the price by a lot)

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Anything that will keep me under the budget.

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050

Additional Comments: I don't need to play at max settings just a good solid framrate that is playable.

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Here are the parts that I have chosen so far:

CPU:AMD Athlon x2 260 Regor 3.2 GHz $66.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003L2M9T4/ref=ox_sc_a...

PSU: Cooler Master Elite 460W $29.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPHK/ref=ox_sc_a...

GPU:ASUS Radeon HD 6670 GDDR5 1 GB $92.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004X8EODY/ref=ox_sc_a...

HDD: Western Digital 320GB Caviar Blue $74.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00461E7JE/ref=ox_sc_a...

Mobo: Gigabyte AM3+ Micro-ATX Mobo $49.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005X64M4G/ref=ox_sc_a...

DVD: ASUS 24x DVD Drive $19.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=ox_sc_a...

RAM: Kingston ValueRAM $21.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002K23V1Q/ref=ox_sc_a...

CASE: GAMAA Classic Series $39.99
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002UDK9U6/ref=ox_sc_a...

OS: Windows 7 $99.99

Priced : $496.91 with Rebates.


Comments: Any criticism about this build is welcome. If there is parts that I NEED to change then feel free to reply. ALSO I'm wondering about the PSU, is it a good buy for gaming? Also will the AM3+ Mobo work on the Athlon Series?

Thanks for replying and giving you input :) 

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April 9, 2012 6:30:29 AM

A G620 is only $3 more but much better for gaming.
April 9, 2012 7:11:20 AM

I'm still just learning about building computers, but in my research over the last month I've found quite a few articles (including this one on Tom's) that says that the Intel processors of this generation are just flat-out better buys for gaming over the AMD ones. With that in mind, I tried to see if I could price you a better performing rig that still fell within your max budget ($600). I came close. Here's what I got:

Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6CHA (minus the DVD burner)
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6CHA/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor
Motherboard: ASRock H61M/U3S3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory: Patriot Signature 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: OCZ 550W ATX12V Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit)
Optical: ASUS 24x DVD

Total: $611

The biggest upgrades were to the cpu and gpu. I also switched your psu to a more reputable brand with more power for negligible price difference.

Benchmark difference between Athlon x2 and Core i3: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/190?vs=289
Benchmark difference between 6670 and 6850: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics...[4847]=on&prod[4966]=on

It averages out to about 30% boost in both CPU and GPU. For example, this translates to a bump from 45fps to 69fps in Metro 2033, Medium Settings (1680x1050, AAA, 4xAF).

The micro atx board still has one free memory slot, meaning you could double your ram later on. You also have the option of upgrading to a better Sandy Bridge or possibly Ivy Bridge processor whenever you have the money. The mobo also has two sata 6gbps ports if you wanted to add an SSD, and has USB 3.0 ports on the back.
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April 9, 2012 7:16:51 AM

You dont want to go 1x4gb you want 2x2gb (ram work in duals).
Sometimes the price difference betwin 6850 and a 6870 is about 10-20$ and totaly worth to pay for a 6870.

Also I wouldn't reccomand to the OP to go the amd route. An i3 from intel might be a little more pricy but will perform so much more then your AMD PCU.
April 9, 2012 8:14:15 AM

AMD is probably the worst route as of now. Mainly because of the fact that the upgrade path is killed with Bulldozer sucking and they just can't perform with Sandy Bridge. Here's a suggestion:

Check out my $650 here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Just switch the i5 2400 to the i3 2100 and you'll save $70 bringing you to $580, and you get a 6870, 500GB HDD, solid case and PSU before OS though.
April 9, 2012 10:03:30 AM

aznshinobi said:
AMD is probably the worst route as of now. Mainly because of the fact that the upgrade path is killed with Bulldozer sucking and they just can't perform with Sandy Bridge. Here's a suggestion:

Check out my $650 here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Just switch the i5 2400 to the i3 2100 and you'll save $70 bringing you to $580, and you get a 6870, 500GB HDD, solid case and PSU before OS though.


Wrong on so many levels

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/341625-31-build-model...

Including the fact the OP only has about $400 to spend on hardware
At that price he should be considering an
AMD A8 3850
A55 mb
2 x2 gig of RAM
400 watt psu
April 9, 2012 6:52:21 PM

^ Lol you wish, the FX-8150 costs as much as a i5 2500K might as well go that route.
i5 2500K vs FX-8150
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=288
The i5 2500K beats out the 8150 in almost every benchmark. Including most the multi-threaded ones. The Bulldozer chip is beat out on nearly every single thing it just can't match up at all. And you make find the argument that the 8150 can overclock. But is that really an argument? The 8150 loses SO MUCH efficiency and ends up consuming so much more power than an i5 2500K overclocked to the same clock speed and consume much less power. Outlander, stop trying to support AMD it's not going to work out. I've tried and it just doesn't.

Also just another point, you were wrong again about rendering in that other thread you said it beats out the i5 2500 and i7 2600. In Blender, the only real rendering benchmark on AnAndTech's bench, the FX-8150 loses out again. Also if you didn't look at that thread's OP, he wanted to game. You just screwed him over there because Sandy Bridge kills and rapes Bulldozer in frames.

Intel G620 $70: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asrock H61M-VS $55: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.Skill 8GB DDR3 1333 $38: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair CX430 $45 ($10 MIR): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
NZXT Source 210 $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Samsung F3 500GB $85: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HIS 6790 $120 ($10 MIR): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $434 before rebates. Way better performance than the build that you said he could only spend on.

April 9, 2012 7:20:29 PM

Outlander_04 said:
Wrong on so many levels

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/341625-31-build-model...

Including the fact the OP only has about $400 to spend on hardware
At that price he should be considering an
AMD A8 3850
A55 mb
2 x2 gig of RAM
400 watt psu



Yeah, but the OP wants something that can do a little more than browse the internet ;) 
Granted, that's a tall order for under $500.
My best suggestion would be to save up another $200, the price/performance ratio gets so much better if you can get into the $700 range.
April 9, 2012 7:22:04 PM

^ Actually with recent prices, under $500 gives you a more than capable computer. Exhibit the computer I just posted. The G620 is actually better in gaming than an A8-3850, then you get a 6790 which is a more than capable card.
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