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Diablo 3 Gaming RIG of Doom $1500

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April 10, 2012 12:42:11 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Less than a Month!
Budget Range: $800-$1000
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Diablo 3, Minecraft + FRAPS, General Computing
Parts Not Required: I don't have a keyboard, mouse, or speakers! At least that I want to use, however, I don't want these to take away from my funds for the other parts. I can scrape some junk together and upgrade them later, but if I have some cash leftover, I'd be happy to hear suggestions.
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Any reliable sites. Newegg.com has worked well for me in the past.
Country: USA
Parts Preferences: I'm Open to Anything
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe - How much would this improve performance? :) 
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
Additional Comments

Viewing Portal
So I was looking at a 27" Monitor, but that is in the $300 range, a nice 24" could work, but I'd be willing to save a little longer to get a 27"

Sound Card
Typically I've never worried about the sound card, but I'd like to record a few games with fraps or similar and I've always had trouble with the on-board sound working right.

Tower
I'd love something that looks cool, but function beats form for me. If it's the best at what it's supposed to do then I'll love it no matter how ugly it is.

Overall
I don't have an OS, so I think that dings my budget by $100. My dream would be to have a computer that has a small footprint, runs cool and stays quiet. All while running everything on super settings. :) 

I'm a minimalist at heart, I like things to be simple and just work.

Diablo 3 is the main thing that will be on this machine, hopefully for awhile, the recommend system is:
Intel® Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz or AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 5600+ 2.8 GHz, 2 GB RAM, NVIDIA® GeForce® 260 or ATI Radeon™ HD 4870 or better

It seems like Quad core would be ideal (or more) to help with the general computing as well. The RAM is easy, 4 gb is pretty standard, but would more help, or is it unnecessary? And for the video card, I've always had trouble knowing what "or better" means. Ideally the video card would be more powerful than it needs to be so that it's not taxing itself constantly. And if it could run D3 on 1920x1080 would be best.

Final thought is PSU, there is so much to know about getting the right one it seems, and I have no clue aside from what the ads tell me. I just want to make sure I have enough power to run it all.
April 10, 2012 3:51:56 AM

Ok, I tried to piece something together, I know it's nothing close to what it should be, i just wanted a start point.

Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6ES5
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6ES5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6ES5/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($148.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Logisys 550W ATX12V Power Supply ($22.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VE278Q 27.0" Monitor ($298.99 @ Mac Connection)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1028.79
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated 2012-04-09 23:52 EDT-0400)


I need a way to lower the price, would I notice the diffrence of 4 or 8 gb ram? Is the SSD not that important?

I really want the 27", but for $100 less I could get 25". What can I change?

ALSO, case is not important, so long as it works and has good cooling.

I've seen allot of recommendations for ASRock Extreme3 Gen3, but I'm worried about all the DOA posts on NewEgg.com
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April 10, 2012 4:39:55 AM

Brandonn said:
Ok, I tried to piece something together, I know it's nothing close to what it should be, i just wanted a start point.

Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6ES5
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6ES5/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6ES5/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($148.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Logisys 550W ATX12V Power Supply ($22.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VE278Q 27.0" Monitor ($298.99 @ Mac Connection)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1028.79
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated 2012-04-09 23:52 EDT-0400)


I need a way to lower the price, would I notice the diffrence of 4 or 8 gb ram? Is the SSD not that important?

I really want the 27", but for $100 less I could get 25". What can I change?


That is actually a pretty solid build but you're using a PSU that is flat out junk and likely to blow up on you. You definitely need to cut back on the monitor - maybe even go 24" and invest the difference in getting a better PSU like a Seasonic X650 Gold or a Corsair TX650 - going cheap on the PSU can have disastrous consequences.

I'd also suggest skipping the SSD entirely - get a 500GB Western Digital drive for $84 and then you can put that money elsewhere. You can always add the SSD later on. That monitor is major overkill for this build - you can always add another monitor later if you really want to get the 27". For now concentrate on what's in the tower and get what's outside as you need it.

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ALSO, case is not important, so long as it works and has good cooling.


Here you go: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I have this same case and it's great - it will fit a Hyper 212 easily and still have plenty of clearance.
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April 10, 2012 5:59:56 AM

^ I agree with what g-unit said.

I think a 24 inch monitor is plenty.
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April 10, 2012 7:10:30 AM

23" > 24". More PPI.
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April 10, 2012 1:08:02 PM

I've tweaked it a bit, here is what I have now:

Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Fu4
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Fu4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Fu4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($147.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($145.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $806.79
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

I've taken the Monitor out of the equation, I can do that as a separate purchase.

So I can downgrade the SSD, but if I do that can I upgrade something else and keep it around $800? A better video card perhaps.

Is there anything new coming out soonish that will drive any prices down?

And I'm weary of the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155, is there a better option that is more reliable?
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April 10, 2012 4:09:27 PM

Brandonn said:
I've tweaked it a bit, here is what I have now:

Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Fu4
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Fu4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Fu4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($147.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($145.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $806.79
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

I've taken the Monitor out of the equation, I can do that as a separate purchase.

So I can downgrade the SSD, but if I do that can I upgrade something else and keep it around $800? A better video card perhaps.

Is there anything new coming out soonish that will drive any prices down?


And I'm weary of the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155, is there a better option that is more reliable?




I would skip the SSD and do something like this:

COOLER MASTER HAF 912 $59.99
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 $89.99
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 $121.99
ntel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $127.99
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600$44.99
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache $79.99
GIGABYTE GV-R785OC-2GD Radeon HD 7850 2GB $259.99
ASUS 24X DVD Burner $19.99

Total $804.92

I don't see a problem with the ASRock board it gets decent reviews. This has a 7850 in place of the 6870 or for a little more about $100 you can get a 7870.

You can also add the SSD later.
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April 10, 2012 5:28:10 PM

Brandonn said:
I've tweaked it a bit, here is what I have now:

Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Fu4
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Fu4/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Fu4/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($117.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($147.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6870 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($145.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $806.79
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

I've taken the Monitor out of the equation, I can do that as a separate purchase.

So I can downgrade the SSD, but if I do that can I upgrade something else and keep it around $800? A better video card perhaps.

Is there anything new coming out soonish that will drive any prices down?

And I'm weary of the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155, is there a better option that is more reliable?


The Asrock is fine, I personally prefer Asus and Gigabyte - I have this board and while it is great it may not meet the price range: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Prices are not going to come down with new hardware being released - you may see a few sales here and there from stores wanting to clear out existing inventory but you still see LGA 1366 CPUs going for $400 despite that the board and CPUs are now 4+ years old.
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April 10, 2012 6:07:52 PM

odwillia said:
I would skip the SSD and do something like this:

COOLER MASTER HAF 912 $59.99
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 $89.99
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 $121.99
ntel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $127.99
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600$44.99
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache $79.99
GIGABYTE GV-R785OC-2GD Radeon HD 7850 2GB $259.99
ASUS 24X DVD Burner $19.99

Total $804.92

I don't see a problem with the ASRock board it gets decent reviews. This has a 7850 in place of the 6870 or for a little more about $100 you can get a 7870.

You can also add the SSD later.

+1000000000

I was goign to suggest the exact same build, well minus the case as I hate the looks of that case with a passion :p 

but we are all forgetting that he needs an OS as well, so unless the Budget becomes $900, we have to shrink it a little.
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April 10, 2012 8:44:34 PM

Pezcore27 said:
+1000000000

I was goign to suggest the exact same build, well minus the case as I hate the looks of that case with a passion :p 

but we are all forgetting that he needs an OS as well, so unless the Budget becomes $900, we have to shrink it a little.


I have the same case - the pictures don't do it justice. Although I'm planning on switching it out with an Arc MIDI at some point. :lol: 
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April 10, 2012 8:55:26 PM

I don't see needing a MB that is oc'able (given an i3 2120, unless you want to swap that out for K cpu later) and thus you could save $50 or so by going down to a lower rung mb.
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April 10, 2012 8:58:07 PM

levin70 said:
I don't see needing a MB that is oc'able (given an i3 2120, unless you want to swap that out for K cpu later) and thus you could save $50 or so by going down to a lower rung mb.


Do not go H61 though - if you plan to use any sort of GPU H61 will not be a good mix for it. With H61 and mATX you forfeit a lot of features like additional PCI x16 lanes, DIMM slots, SATA and e-SATA and USB ports, you name it.
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April 11, 2012 12:39:54 AM

Good news anyone, my wife felt bad I was struggling with getting all the parts I wanted so now I have $1500! So subtract $60 for Diablo 3 that gives me $1440 to work with. Here is what I have now:


Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6H4T
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6H4T/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6H4T/benchmarks/


CPU:
Intel Core i3-2120 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard:
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory:
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive:
Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($147.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card:
Asus Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Amazon)
Case:
Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:
Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor:
Asus VE278Q 27.0" Monitor ($298.99 @ Mac Connection)
Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $1333.78
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)


The reason I'm so stuck on the SSD is I really want fast boot times, I also heard that you can notice the difference, if you've had experience using SSD and it is mostly Hype, then let's drop it out, or if the performance will increase more by putting the money somewhere else, but it sounds really cool.

I went crazy with the video card because I can, but is it overkill? I won't be gaming too often, but when I do I want it to just work.

I'm really stuck on the 27" screen but I'm going to look at a store soon to get a feel for the 25", I just really like the idea of a massive screen and my vision isn't perfect, so that's why I keep trying to fit it in.

At this budget point maybe I'm focusing on the wrong areas, please tell me.

After all is said and done, I also need to fit in a decent wireless n card and a decent wireless mouse & keyboard. I'd also love a mouse that doesn't 'click', any ideas.

I keep change this up - so I hope your all having fun with this, I don't mean to be a pest if I am.
Thanks to everyone for you help and insight.
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April 11, 2012 12:44:22 AM

For SSD, go with either the Crucial M4 128GB or the Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 120GB SSD. The 120GB is $~30 cheaper and has faster write speeds. I have it and it's problem free so far. Honestly, if you want 27", try getting a res of 1920x1200.
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April 11, 2012 12:46:32 AM

azeem40 said:
For SSD, go with either the Crucial M4 128GB or the Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 120GB SSD. The 120GB is $~30 cheaper and has faster write speeds. I have it and it's problem free so far. Honestly, if you want 27", try getting a res of 1920x1200.


Do you feel 1920x1080 is wasted on 27"?
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April 11, 2012 12:51:37 AM

Yeah, the pixels per inch is lower, meaning everything looks bigger than it needs to.
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April 11, 2012 5:05:18 AM

I'm almost down to a final selection, this is what I have:

Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6HH8
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6HH8/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6HH8/benchmarks/


CPU: Intel Core i5-2500 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Chronos 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($264.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE278Q 27.0" Monitor ($298.99 @ Mac Connection)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Also:
Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 ($40 @ Newegg)
Nexus Wireless Carbon Silent Mouse SM-9000C ($35 @ Amazon)
DVD drive $20

Total: $1393.77

My last changes:
#1) I upgraded the processor, the i5 2400 was recommended, but the 2500 is not much more expensive.
#2) I changed to the SSD Drive recommended, slightly cheaper and faster read/write
#3) I dropped back down to the 7850 as it is still way more than I need (for now) and $100 cheaper. This gives me wiggle room to improve other aspects of the build.
#4) I really super duper want a quiet mouse, this is all I could really find. I'm open to other suggestions, a quiet mouse seems to be a niche market - there aren't many options out there. Wireless preferred.

My final considerations are:

#1) Is 650w enough power for this rig?
#2) What do I need to do to have sufficient cooling?

I'll go with wired internet to save $$ and ensure the best speed.

So I can spend up to $1500, but I don't need to. Currently I have everything I want, at this point I want to make sure it will all jive well together. I can now get a more expensive case if it will mean cooler and quieter. This system will be in my room, and if I want to use it early or late, I need it to be quiet and not go ::click:: ::click:: ::click::

Thanks again for all the advice, I look forward to finalizing this thing.

(Maybe a Diablo 3 Case... Nah)


EDIT: I forgot a DVD drive for around $20, or maybe a Bluray for $60 if I have extra $
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April 11, 2012 5:22:11 AM

650W leaves you room for CFing the 7850.
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April 11, 2012 5:24:59 AM

azeem40 said:
650W leaves you room for CFing the 7850.


You give me bad ideas...

But that does tell me I have an easy upgrade option later on...
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April 11, 2012 5:39:48 AM

Bad ideas?
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April 11, 2012 5:41:22 AM

I mean ideas that would have me spending more money than I should, meant as a joke - sorry :) 
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April 11, 2012 5:43:46 AM

Ah, I figured after thinking awhile. :p 
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April 11, 2012 2:21:10 PM

Good luck! Have fun!
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