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Building 1st computer: Compatibility and Cost

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April 10, 2012 12:08:26 PM

I was browsing for parts and researching and came up with a few parts. The only thing is I don't know if they are compatible with each other or not and if I need to upgrade or downgrade some parts because of the way I use my computer.

I will mostly use the computer for video editing with programs such as Sony Vegas and Adobe After Effects, watching movies, recording live music with an audio interface and using programs such as Protools and Fl Studios and playing games such as Skyrim.

Also if you happen to know a website that ships to Australia that sells these parts for less or better parts at the same price please link them as they will be much appreciated as I am low on funds. These are the parts I have found:

Case: NZXT Guardian 921 RB
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/kanl4-nzxt-guardian...

Motherboard: Asus CROSSHAIR-V-FORMULA-ThunderBolt AMD Mainboard - AM3+
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/crosshair-thbolt-as...

CPU: AMD FX-8150 Eight-Core - AM3+
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/advfd8150frgubox-81...

CPU Cooling (Fan or liquid cooling? Which is more suited?): Thermaltake Frio OCK CPU Cooler
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/p0575-thermaltake-f...

RAM: G.Skill GS-F3-10666CL9Q-16GBXL DDR3-1333 16GB Quad Channel (4x4G)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/G-Skill-GS-F3-10666CL9Q-16GB...

Power Supply: Antec 380W Power Supply
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/761345-27381-antec-...

Graphics Card: Asus nVidia GTX560 1GB
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/engtx560dc2di1gd5-a...

Internal Memory (I think I might retain my current 1TB on my current computer): Western Digital Caviar GREEN 1TB
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/wd10earx-western-di...

DVD/Blu-Ray player/burner (May as retain old one): LG Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Burner (BH10LS30)
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/bh10ls30-raydvdcd-b...

Many thanks in advance to all you guys who have taken the time to read this and help me out,
-Andy
April 10, 2012 4:06:54 PM

The build is nice, love the case, thing is though, with the things you plan on doing (Vid editing, making music, and some higher gaming) you can go with these
Intel i7 2600k CPU, quad core, at 3.4 GHz I believe-$319
you can drop in this Motherboard- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
you can retain your hard drive and optical drive
you can use that GPU still, 560 is very nice still
just get some dual channel 1600 RAM, will save money.
Get this fan for some nice cooling- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and get a good case w/ nice room and airflow such as this- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and just choose a bigger PSU (a 450 watt to be safe, atleast Bronze 80+ cert.)
main reason i'm voiding off AMD on this one is because the i7's are ment for vid editing by far, and the AMD 8 core is only utilized as a 4 core. One big problem you had was choosing a very high end motherboard, which was a waste of $ for your needs. I'm only saying to get a bigger power supply just to keep it safe so your machine has enough power. Also, the case I chose for you doesn't collect dust easily, is roomy, and has great airflow. Finally, I chose that aftermarket fan for you because it is great to keep your CPU cool in general and if you overclock it (for being a 1st time builder, be safe and use air cooling so you don't ruin your PC from a leak in water cooling). Other than that, I hoped this helped and good luck!
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April 10, 2012 8:56:24 PM

Vhkprimus said:
I was browsing for parts and researching and came up with a few parts. The only thing is I don't know if they are compatible with each other or not and if I need to upgrade or downgrade some parts because of the way I use my computer.

I will mostly use the computer for video editing with programs such as Sony Vegas and Adobe After Effects, watching movies, recording live music with an audio interface and using programs such as Protools and Fl Studios and playing games such as Skyrim.

Also if you happen to know a website that ships to Australia that sells these parts for less or better parts at the same price please link them as they will be much appreciated as I am low on funds. These are the parts I have found:

Case: NZXT Guardian 921 RB
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/kanl4-nzxt-guardian...

Motherboard: Asus CROSSHAIR-V-FORMULA-ThunderBolt AMD Mainboard - AM3+
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/crosshair-thbolt-as...

CPU: AMD FX-8150 Eight-Core - AM3+
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/advfd8150frgubox-81...

CPU Cooling (Fan or liquid cooling? Which is more suited?): Thermaltake Frio OCK CPU Cooler
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/p0575-thermaltake-f...

RAM: G.Skill GS-F3-10666CL9Q-16GBXL DDR3-1333 16GB Quad Channel (4x4G)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/G-Skill-GS-F3-10666CL9Q-16GB...

Power Supply: Antec 380W Power Supply
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/761345-27381-antec-...

Graphics Card: Asus nVidia GTX560 1GB
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/engtx560dc2di1gd5-a...

Internal Memory (I think I might retain my current 1TB on my current computer): Western Digital Caviar GREEN 1TB
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/wd10earx-western-di...

DVD/Blu-Ray player/burner (May as retain old one): LG Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Burner (BH10LS30)
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/bh10ls30-raydvdcd-b...

Many thanks in advance to all you guys who have taken the time to read this and help me out,
-Andy


That power supply is too weak for a build like that. Under load that 8 core Bulldozer can make your system pull 600 watts if you overclock it. If you go with that CPU, consider 700 watt minimum.


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April 10, 2012 9:09:18 PM

Power supply is too weak, but he should be fine with a 550ish watt Antec PSU. For video editing and adobe, more cores the better. I'm not a big fan of the bulldozer CPU's, but I have no need for an 8 core cpu, either. I'm hoping that AMD fixes the problems with bulldozer with Piledriver cores, but we'll see.
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April 10, 2012 9:12:02 PM

egilbe said:
Power supply is too weak, but he should be fine with a 550ish watt Antec PSU. For video editing and adobe, more cores the better. I'm not a big fan of the bulldozer CPU's, but I have no need for an 8 core cpu, either. I'm hoping that AMD fixes the problems with bulldozer with Piledriver cores, but we'll see.



http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/10/12/amd-fx...

I wouldn't even do 550. Look at that on overclock, that sucker is pulling 586 at the wall.
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April 10, 2012 9:36:03 PM

nekulturny said:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/10/12/amd-fx...

I wouldn't even do 550. Look at that on overclock, that sucker is pulling 586 at the wall.


Most of that is being used up as heat. An Antec 550 true power can easily pull 700 watts through the wall. An Antec 380 can pull ~500. Most of the power is wasted as heat.
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April 10, 2012 10:13:43 PM

egilbe said:
Most of that is being used up as heat. An Antec 550 true power can easily pull 700 watts through the wall. An Antec 380 can pull ~500. Most of the power is wasted as heat.



That may be, but personally I like to cover my bases. Its not substantially more to do so. Why not buy the supersize if its only 39 cents more if you're that hungry? ya know?

Maybe I'm at a disadvantage for not being familiar with the Australian market. In the Us at least, an Antec Truepower 550w is 99 bucks, and a Cosair TX750 v2 is only 105.
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April 10, 2012 10:21:08 PM

nekulturny said:
That may be, but personally I like to cover my bases. Its not substantially more to do so. Why not buy the supersize if its only 39 cents more if you're that hungry? ya know?

Maybe I'm at a disadvantage for not being familiar with the Australian market. In the Us at least, an Antec Truepower 550w is 99 bucks, and a Cosair TX750 v2 is only 105.


In Australia everything is way more expensive than in US unfortunately. I linked a 550W in the reply above yours.
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April 10, 2012 10:38:53 PM

Vhkprimus said:
In Australia everything is way more expensive than in US unfortunately. I linked a 550W in the reply above yours.



I'll have to defer to someone else. I'm of the opinion that 750 watt is more appropriate for that system, especially if you plan to overclock it. I base this on both the fact that PSUs degrade over time especially if they are run at or above their rated wattage. It is generally advisable to figure out roughly how many watts your system will need and add 30 percent. That may not be TomShare members position on it, but its what I was taught in my PC repair college class, and was asked on my A+ certification prep exam. So thats where I'm coming from.
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April 10, 2012 10:59:18 PM

nekulturny said:
I'll have to defer to someone else. I'm of the opinion that 750 watt is more appropriate for that system, especially if you plan to overclock it. I base this on both the fact that PSUs degrade over time especially if they are run at or above their rated wattage. It is generally advisable to figure out roughly how many watts your system will need and add 30 percent. That may not be TomShare members position on it, but its what I was taught in my PC repair college class, and was asked on my A+ certification prep exam. So thats where I'm coming from.


How many volts do you suggest I get? The power supply is the only thing I'm unsure with.
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April 11, 2012 11:01:21 AM

nekulturny said:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/10/12/amd-fx...

I wouldn't even do 550. Look at that on overclock, that sucker is pulling 586 at the wall.


I only skimmed the Test Setup and Power Consumption pages of that review, but from what I have read and understood the test system uses, and the power consumption figures include, a GTX 590, which is rated to draw 365W on maximum load.
GTX 560s are rated to draw 150W on maximum load, so I think you can deduct 215W (365-150) from the 586W figure.

The other thing to recognize is that they are measuring that number at the wall, which is the AC side. Due to the efficiency (or more accurately the inefficiency) of the PSU more is being drawn from the wall than is actually being used by the computer. So you can take 10-20% off the 586/371W to get an idea of what their system actually needs. So based on all that your system shouldn't draw more than 334W under Prime95 (the program Bit-tech state they use to stress the CPU).
So a 550W unit meets all the criteria that nekulturny has stated so far in choosing a PSU.
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