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April 10, 2012 4:42:41 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Month of April, By the end of the month I would like to have SOME of the parts ordered.

Budget Range: $1000-$2500 budget is a bit flexable, personally looking to make a system that will be fine for the next 4-5years before I need to build a new system.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3ds max, maya, photoshop CS5, gaming, Microsoft visual, surfing the internet, watching movies. I also like to have at least two to three programs active such as 3ds max, audacity, and photoshop CS5, as well as around 5 internet pages at once.

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor- right now I have a 42" LG TV that I double as a screen using an HDMI output, For the OS I would be using Windows 7 Ultimate (As it can deal with up to 32g of motherboard memory).

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com, need help or suggestions with other websites to get the biggest bang for my $.

Country: USA-California

Parts Preferences: Processor- Leaning towards a I7-3930k, mainly due to the potential it has for animation software as well as being somewhat 'future proof', but I am open to suggestions. I know everyone will say go with the i7-2600k(or w/e) but I am mainly more concerned with the performance of 3ds max, maya, photoshop which from my research will benifit a lot from the i7-3930k even vs the 4 core IB.
For Motherboard im looking towards the Asus x79 Sabertooth, or the Asus IV Rampage.
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Overclocking: Maybe, once the system is stable I might work with this, but I am a novice.

SLI or Crossfire: Yes, Eventually. What I am thinking of for now would be one GTX680 and then later adding on another video card. Video card selection is also part of my question as my main use will be for 3ds max, maya, photoshop but I will game (WoW,SW:TOR, BF3) so I dunno if I will need a card for 3ds max and then one for gaming or will the 680 be sufficent for both?

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, 1920x1200, looking for max res for details and for gaming.

Additional Comments: I am looking for a FULL build list (yes I need A LOT of help), This computer will more than likely run 16 hours a day so cooling might be an issue. For that Im thinking the H100 to keep that CPU cool but also need Full cooling solutions for the rest (or if you guys have any better ideas they are more than welcome).

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April 10, 2012 5:25:00 PM

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Parts Preferences: Processor- Leaning towards a I7-3930k, mainly due to the potential it has for animation software as well as being somewhat 'future proof', but I am open to suggestions. I know everyone will say go with the i7-2600k(or w/e) but I am mainly more concerned with the performance of 3ds max, maya, photoshop which from my research will benifit a lot from the i7-3930k even vs the 4 core IB.
For Motherboard im looking towards the Asus x79 Sabertooth, or the Asus IV Rampage.
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With the 3930K and it's six cores you'll easily be able to get the most you can for your money - I think it will be far more future proof than Ivy will be in the long run. But if you've got a $2500 budget it can't be done with a 3930K and Rampage IV - you might have to drop to the i7-3820 which in and of itself is still a fairly capable CPU.

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SLI or Crossfire: Yes, Eventually. What I am thinking of for now would be one GTX680 and then later adding on another video card. Video card selection is also part of my question as my main use will be for 3ds max, maya, photoshop but I will game (WoW,SW:TOR, BF3) so I dunno if I will need a card for 3ds max and then one for gaming or will the 680 be sufficent for both?


It doesn't get much better than the 680 right now if you can find one.

Try this build:

Case: Corsair Carbide 500R - $139.99
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII 950 - $149.99
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 - $319.99
CPU: 3.6GHz Intel Core i7-3820 - $309.99
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 Socket LGA 2011 Edition - $89.99
RAM: 16GB G.Skill Ripjaw X 1600MHz 1.5V - $129.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $164.99
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda Green - $119.99
Optical: LG Black BD-R Burner - $79.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 680 - $499.99
OS: Windows 7 Pro - $139.99
Monitor: ASUS VS248H-P Black 24" HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor - $199.99
Keyboard: Logitech G100 - $64.99
Mouse: Logitech G500 - $59.99

Total: $2,419.87
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April 10, 2012 5:40:19 PM

hello loke

i would also recommend getting the i7 3930k for more cores and more cache.


i would like to change a few things to get ir right.

my build rough idea.


intel i7 3930k

it is six core and 10mb cache. it can overclock and the most bang for buck enthusists cpu.

asus sabertooth x79

it has a nice duribality and stability . it is also having a 5yrs warrenty.

or the asrock x79 extreme4

for a cheaper motherboard and better quality .

it also supports 3 way sli.

corsair vengence 4x4 gb 1600mhz ddr3 ram

for the stability and overclockability.

noctua nh d-14

the beast in cooling . it is the best air cooler and isa cheaper than h100.

corsair tx 750w or seasonic 750w or ocz 750w

one of the best psu.

corsair 500r white or 600T white

the best cases around.

crucial m4 128 gb sata 3 ssd.

the best ssd after intel ones.

wd carvier blue 500gb X 2 in raid 1

for storing the work files and raid 1 in case of failure.

msi gtx 560ti 2 gb twin frozer.

it is fast it is cool and cheaper.



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April 10, 2012 5:56:55 PM

I like these ideas, so If I was going to go with the I7 3930k processor My budget would need to increase to what? 3k? also I do not need a monitor (will go three side by side monitors in the future but for now I have that 42") and I do not need a keyboard or mouse or windows 7 (as I am a DeVry student ATM and get ANY version of windows even windows 7 profession for FREE. Taking this out of the 1st build would leave me with an additional $464.96 in change. Lets apply that to the new build.
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April 10, 2012 6:05:22 PM

loke said:
I like these ideas, so If I was going to go with the I7 3930k processor My budget would need to increase to what? 3k? also I do not need a monitor (will go three side by side monitors in the future but for now I have that 42") and I do not need a keyboard or mouse or windows 7 (as I am a DeVry student ATM and get ANY version of windows even windows 7 profession for FREE. Taking this out of the 1st build would leave me with an additional $464.96 in change. Lets apply that to the new build.


OK if you don't need OS or monitor for now you can easily get the 3930K, and with the D14 you can OC it to 4.5 - 5GHz easily.

If you're increasing the budget to $3K and you don't need monitor you can easily add another 680 and still come in well under $3K.
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April 11, 2012 6:51:44 AM

So same build as you listed, assuming im not getting a monitor and keyboard/mouse as well as the OS? Im thinking about getting more ram 32g instead of another GTX680 because its a beast and the ram due to the rendering and photoshop etc. What other suggestion would you suggest getting in lue of another 680 since I should have change from the ram.
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April 11, 2012 8:07:03 AM

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http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop...(v=vs.85).aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7

Physical Memory Limits: Windows 7

The following table specifies the limits on physical memory for Windows 7.

Version Limit on X86 Limit on X64

Windows 7 Ultimate 4 GB 192 GB

Windows 7 Enterprise 4 GB 192 GB

Windows 7 Professional 4 GB 192 GB

Windows 7 Home Premium 4 GB 16 GB

Windows 7 Home Basic 4 GB 8 GB

Windows 7 Starter 2 GB N/A



http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-overclock... <----- Overclocking the gtx 680 w/benchmarks




This build allows you to add another one of those cards later on in SLI. This build also allows you to add another kit of that RAM later on for a total of 64GB.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Gaming-CC-... $116.16 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

This XFX psu down below is manufactured by Seasonic as are all XFX psu's and the mid and upper tier Corsair psu's.

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-850-Power-Supply/dp/B0050... $122.75 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
XFX PRO850W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80 Plus Silver Certified 850 Watt Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $284.99
ASRock X79 Extreme6/GB LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $599.99 FREE SHIPPING $30 promotional gift card with purchase, ends 4/11
Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $39.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER RR-H612-20PK-R3 120mm Sleeve with 6 Heat Pipes Hyper 612 PWM CPU Cooler (LGA 2011 Version)

Add this fan down below to that CM cpu h/s for a "push - pull" effect to help bring the cpu temps down even more.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-BladeMaster-Silent-... $11.99 Free Standard Shipping (3-5 days)
Cooler Master BladeMaster 120mm PWM High Air Flow Silent Case Fan R4-BMBS-20PK-R0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $239.99
G.SKILL Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C10Q-32GAO

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD%C2%B1RW-Serial-Intern... $19.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Asus 24xDVD±RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $124.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
ASUS GTX680-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Total: $2,160.82 *not including shipping and mail in rebates


http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Professional-64bit-System... $139.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST2000DM001-Barracuda-3-5... $119.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate ST2000DM001 Barracuda 7200RPM 2 TB SATA 6 GB/s NCQ 64 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $238.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe MKNSSDCR240GB-DX 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)


http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=X79%20Extre... <----- a better look at that board. Get your latest bios for that board here.

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <---- a better look at that case
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April 12, 2012 4:43:52 AM

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April 12, 2012 4:47:36 AM

Why_Me said:
Quote:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop...(v=vs.85).aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7

Physical Memory Limits: Windows 7

The following table specifies the limits on physical memory for Windows 7.

Version Limit on X86 Limit on X64

Windows 7 Ultimate 4 GB 192 GB

Windows 7 Enterprise 4 GB 192 GB

Windows 7 Professional 4 GB 192 GB

Windows 7 Home Premium 4 GB 16 GB

Windows 7 Home Basic 4 GB 8 GB

Windows 7 Starter 2 GB N/A



http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-overclock... <----- Overclocking the gtx 680 w/benchmarks

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8951/680oc.jpg


This build allows you to add another one of those cards later on in SLI. This build also allows you to add another kit of that RAM later on for a total of 64GB.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Gaming-CC-... $116.16 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

This XFX psu down below is manufactured by Seasonic as are all XFX psu's and the mid and upper tier Corsair psu's.

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-850-Power-Supply/dp/B0050... $122.75 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
XFX PRO850W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80 Plus Silver Certified 850 Watt Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $284.99
ASRock X79 Extreme6/GB LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $599.99 FREE SHIPPING $30 promotional gift card with purchase, ends 4/11
Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $39.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER RR-H612-20PK-R3 120mm Sleeve with 6 Heat Pipes Hyper 612 PWM CPU Cooler (LGA 2011 Version)

Add this fan down below to that CM cpu h/s for a "push - pull" effect to help bring the cpu temps down even more.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-BladeMaster-Silent-... $11.99 Free Standard Shipping (3-5 days)
Cooler Master BladeMaster 120mm PWM High Air Flow Silent Case Fan R4-BMBS-20PK-R0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $239.99
G.SKILL Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C10Q-32GAO

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD%C2%B1RW-Serial-Intern... $19.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Asus 24xDVD±RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $124.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
ASUS GTX680-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Total: $2,160.82 *not including shipping and mail in rebates


http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Professional-64bit-System... $139.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST2000DM001-Barracuda-3-5... $119.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate ST2000DM001 Barracuda 7200RPM 2 TB SATA 6 GB/s NCQ 64 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $238.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe MKNSSDCR240GB-DX 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)


http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=X79%20Extre... <----- a better look at that board. Get your latest bios for that board here.

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <---- a better look at that case



love your answer why_me, system looks perfect. Only question is in CPU and GPU cooling. For the CPU itself i noticed that you included a air cooling heatsink, but my understanding is the i7 3930k will run hot due to the 130v per core. For this reason wouldn't it be better to go with the H100 watercooling unit? as for the GPU im open to suggestion on how to keep this cool( will probbly buy in the future and not at this time but what to get an idea of what im looking for, make sense?) but again I like the idea of water cooling due to the results and like the idea of closed loop systems like the H100 for no maintaince.
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April 12, 2012 5:00:58 AM

loke said:
love your answer why_me, system looks perfect. Only question is in CPU and GPU cooling. For the CPU itself i noticed that you included a air cooling heatsink, but my understanding is the i7 3930k will run hot due to the 130v per core. For this reason wouldn't it be better to go with the H100 watercooling unit? as for the GPU im open to suggestion on how to keep this cool( will probbly buy in the future and not at this time but what to get an idea of what im looking for, make sense?) but again I like the idea of water cooling due to the results and like the idea of closed loop systems like the H100 for no maintaince.

The H100 is a nice cooler and you can't go wrong with it.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Hy... <----- Here's a review on that CM cooler.
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April 14, 2012 1:10:30 AM

Any other ideas for a build with the i7 3930k + 32g of ram and a gtx 680?? or does "why_me's" build pritty much hit the nail on the head? Personally I like Why_me's build so if you are going to submit a build kinda stay within the same budget/idea, but again any ideas or constructive criticism needed and welcome.!!!

One idea I had was aftermarket cooling for the GTX 680, under full load i expect this to run hot so I was thinking about WC'ing or just getting an After market fan to help with this, but I have no idea even where to start. I do like the idea of going with the closed loop system like the H100 but thats for the CPU can similar products like this be used directly for a GPU?.. just what do I need to know or look at??

Any ideas or constructive criticism needed and welcome.!!!

Also for a power supply is the listed 850w going to be enough? assuming I want dual GTX 680's, I7 3930k, 32g's of ram, and a decent 2.1 speaker setup (REALLY a novice when it comes to audio/speakers) or am I going to want a 1200w psu or something like that. TBH id rather get a few components, like the psu, with later FULL upgrades in mind such as dual graphics cards,speakers, etc in mind. That said what would I be looking at/for?
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