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April 10, 2012 5:18:30 PM

So this is the first computer i have ever built. And this will be my everyday computer as well. What do you guys think?

case - Cooler Master RC-932-KKN5-GP HAF 932 Advance Full Tower Case - ATX, Black, SuperSpeed USB 3.0
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

mobo - ASUS M4A78T-E Motherboard - AMD 790GX, AM3 128MB DDR2 Side-Port, ATI Hybrid, CrossFire, PCIe 2.0, DDR3 Memory USB2.0, RAID, HDMI/DVI
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

cpu - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition AM3 CPU HDZ965FBGMBOX - 3.40GHz, Socket AM3, 6MB Cache, 2000MHz (4000 MT/s) FSB, Retail, Processor with Fan
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

ram - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

gpu - XFX HD-583X-ZAFV Radeon HD 5830 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

removable storage - Pioneer Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 10X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Internal BD/DVD/CD Writer BDR-207DBKS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RSA00-AMBAJ3-US 1000W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage x2 in a raid 1 config - Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200 RPM, 32MB, SATA-300
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

cpu fan - Cooler Master Hyper N520 CPU Cooler - Socket LGA 775, AM2, AM2+, 1156, AM3, 1366
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

sound card - Creative Labs SB X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Champ PCIe Sound Card
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

fan control - more for looks - Aerocool X-Vision 5.25" Fan/Temp Controller
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

so im putting all of this together in the next few weeks. i have more ideas for the ram but im going to wait and see what i can get out of this configuration first. anyone have more ideas about something i can include?

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April 10, 2012 5:44:26 PM

I'm interested in findout out why you're getting such an old graphics card, but going with a 1000w psu? With your setup, 450w would be enough. Also, I would suggest getting an AM3+ motherboard in case you want to switch to a Piledriver cpu when it comes out some time in the future.
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April 10, 2012 5:48:15 PM

Here are my thoughts, in no particular order.

1. That PSU is way, way, WAY more than you need. People get 1000W supplies to power multiple high end video cards. You need less than half that to power the single low end card you selected.

2. The motherboard and processor your selected are quite weak by today's standards. I'd recommend waiting a couple weeks and picking up an entry level IVB chip instead.

3. Your decision to go with DDR3-1333 was probably a result of your motherboard not supporting the superior DDR3-1600. Once you solve the problem of having a weak mobo, get some DDR3-1600 memory. Lowest latencies under $50 for an 8GB kit is a pretty good target for this kind of system.

4. Spending twice as much on your sound card than you do on your CPU says to me that you are either an audiophile, or have your priorities totally backward on this system.

Personally, I'd ditch the sound card entirely and rely on the motherboard's integrated audio. I'd drop the BD-R drive as well. For $130 you can get either a BD burner and a spindle of discs (~600GB backup capacity), or a 1TB hard drive. Unless you're planning on burning dozens and dozens of discs for backup, or have some other use for a BD burner, I think it's a better idea to go with more drive space.

I'd also spend about 70% less on the PSU for this kind of system, probably around $65, freeing up another $100 for roughly $400.

I'd take $100 of that and put it into the CPU, and $50 into a motherboard. That will get you a good mid-range IVB chip when they launch later this months (supposedly about 2.5 weeks from now).

You didn't mention what you were going to do with this system, but if gaming is a priority, I'd bump the GPU budget up by about $100 as well. The 5830 is a decent card, but it's getting pretty old. If I'm not mistaken, they're really hard to find as well.

This leaves you with a much more powerful system that costs less.
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April 10, 2012 6:10:33 PM

Just noticed your other thread from a couple days ago. It's unfortunate that you already bought these parts. I would not consider this to be a good computer on any level, really.

The CPU is several years old and is really only still around because it's a good value, not because it's a great chip.

The sound card, to me, is a total waste. Unless you're using equally expensive speakers or a REALLY freaking nice headset, you literally won't be able to notice the difference.

The PSU is total overkill, doubly so since this isn't a gaming rig.

That memory has very unimpressive latencies for its speed, and is probably slower than a good DDR2 kit as a result.

You've basically just heavily invested into a computer in which literally every component is already multiple generations out of date. I really hope these components were just lying around. I know I'd be kicking myself if I bought all this retail with the expectation that I'd be getting stellar performance.

This is basically a $1k computer that performs on par with a $500 budget rig due to splurging on things you don't need and skimping on the ones you do.
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April 10, 2012 7:36:35 PM

ouch. that hurt guys. but specs dont lie. i was originally going to build this a year and half ago. hence why the specs are kind of out dated. i already have the mobo, cpu, ram, case, and gpu. i guess ill have to purchase other stuff instead. like a new mobo and cpu. and ok fine fine fine i will leave out the sound card. and heads up the only reason i was going with a 1k psu was because i was going to upgrade in the future and didnt want to bother getting a different power supply then. (get it now while i have the money. so i will get a new mobo and cpu and graphics card, and ram then. =( thanks for the help guys hahaha
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April 10, 2012 8:06:19 PM

Power requirements are only going to go down, so even for two GPUs, 850W is plenty.
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April 10, 2012 9:03:57 PM

Getting extra PSU headroom is always a good idea, but you don't need to buy a 1000W unit to do it. A pair of mid-range cards only needs about 650W, all power usage considered. I'd shoot for a good 650W to 750W supply, which can be had for around $80-$100 if you really want that headroom.

But still, that headroom is only useful if you're going to put a second video card in there. Compared to the CPU and GPU, nothing else really asks for that much power. Estimate about 10W for a hard drive and 25W for an optical drive, and 5-8W for the average case fan, and you can see that it's going to be really hard to use much more than a hundred watts or so outside your heavy hitting components.
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April 11, 2012 2:47:16 AM

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