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April 10, 2012 7:15:10 PM

Like quite a few threads I've read so far, I'm also new into building and OC'ing, but I'm enjoying it immensely. My current build I put together with the help of my electrical engineer friend (always nice to have one of those laying around). Unfortunately, I can't remember every detail of the parts I used, but what's in my sig is to the best of my knowledge. This is what I want to build:

Tower: Rosewill BLACKHAWK-ULTRA Gaming Super Tower Computer Case, support up to HPTX, come with Eight Fans,Top HDD docking

MOBO: ASUS Sabertooth 990FX AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory

CPU: AMD FX-6200 Zambezi 3.8GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor FD6200FRGUBOX

GPU: SAPPHIRE 11197-01-40G Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC Version

PSU: CORSAIR Gaming Series GS800 800W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC High Performance

Storage: Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Drive: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Price: $1,490


My question is, am I getting the most bang for my buck? Being a novice in this game, I don't know enough about the performance differences, cost-wise. We've talked about doing incremental upgrades to my current system over time, waiting for deals on newegg, for prices of components to drop with newer hardware releases, etc. Yet, I can't help but feel that, by doing it this way, I'll always have some kind of 'weak-link' in my rig.

If it helps, I basically do MMO's (SWTOR, FFXI, FFXIV) and play with benchmark tools. I know this is probably overkill for my application, but I find it fun, like upgrading a performance car. Plus, my brother's Intel core i-5 beat my Nova bench score by 200, I must put a stop to this :) 

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April 10, 2012 7:52:42 PM

Ditch the AMD chip/MB and go Intel. It's just better. Also, the GTX 680 is a better/cheaper card IF you can find one available.
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April 10, 2012 8:27:00 PM

Thinking you are way overkill on that case unless you're going to do 3/4-way SLI/CF down the road. If you want to stay with Rosewill, the Thor V2 has been getting great reviews. Either way, may run into cable length issues but can be solved with extenders.

I would agree on Intel as well, they're still king at that price point. Save some cash on the case, drop the RAM in half, shrink the hard drive if you're not managing large files (not needed for a few games) and add an SSD with those savings for the best performance/feel at that price point.

If you're hard sold on that amount of RAM, add a little cash for a small SSD and use Intel SRT to speed up overall performance.
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April 10, 2012 9:12:15 PM

I'm really not adamant about the ram, I'm running 4gig right now and it does fine, but I'm mildly addicted to going balls out on this stuff.

Figgy: From my very limited knowledge, I've always understood it that you can't really tweak the Intel stuff like you can AMD. Are you coming from a sheer performance standpoint with the Intel option? Half my fun comes from tweaking, whether it be in the BIOS or AMD Overdrive utility.

I'll research the GTX 680, thank you!

Youngster: Maybe I'm having a knee-jerk reaction to my current box. I just put in a Corsair H80 liquid cooling system, but because of the tower, I had to cut out one of them support members you screw into the side casing into the tower. I also had to remove the top screen for the radiator sandwiched by fans. I take the blame for not researching my tower specs and comparing them with the cooler more in-depth, but it really bothered me I had to cut up my tower to make it fit. I guess I didn't want to run into that problem again. I also assumed that a bigger case would mean more air flow, and easier to work inside of. Is that an incorrect notion?

The hard drive I can definitely shrink, I'll more than likely never use even half a terabyte.

SSD. Thanks, I totally forgot I wanted to do that for Win7 and one of my games.

Thanks for the help guys!


Edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|14-102-982^14-102-982-09%23%2C14-130-771^14-130-771-05%23

If I'm comparing the correct GTX680, it looks like the main differences are the GTX being a bit faster on the memory. Does it matter at all that Radeon's has 3g while the GTX only has 2?
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April 10, 2012 10:00:20 PM

Straight up overclocking of "K" model Intel procs is now super easy if that's what you are looking to do (in general you don't have to change voltages or base clock, just up the multiplier til you hit the thermal limits of your cooling solution).
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April 18, 2012 4:19:58 PM

I ended up with this:

2 x ($139.99) Acer S230HLAbii Black 23" 5ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 ACM 100,000,000:1 (1000:1)
$279.98

1 x ($259.99) SAPPHIRE 11200-01-20G Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC
$259.99

1 x ($184.99) ASUS Sabertooth 990FX AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
$184.99

1 x ($179.99) AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8120FRGUBOX
$179.99

1 x ($149.99) COUGAR CMX 1000 COUGAR-1000CMX 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Yes, flexible cable management Active PFC Power Supply
$149.99

2 x ($69.99) G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM
$139.98

1 x ($129.99) Corsair Carbide Series 500R Black Steel structure with molded ABS plastic accent pieces ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$129.99

1 x ($84.99) Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
$84.99

1 x ($80.99) Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$80.99

1 x ($79.99) LG Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 10X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA 12X Super Multi Blue with 3D Playback & M-DISC Support WH12LS39 LightScribe Support - OEM
$79.99

1 x ($49.99) AMD Gift - Dirt3 Game Coupon - OEM
$49.99

1 x ($9.99) Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
$9.99

1 x ($9.99) Standard A133 Black USB Wired Optical 800 dpi Mouse
$9.99

1 x ($8.99) Rosewill RCW-H9015 DVI-D (24+1) to HDMI Adapter
$8.99

1 x ($4.49) Link Depot DVI-AVGA-ADPT DVI To VGA Adapter
$4.49

1 x ($-9.99) DISCOUNT FOR AUTOADD #47129
$-9.99

1 x ($-36.00) DISCOUNT FOR PROMOTION CODE
$-36.00

1 x ($-49.99) DISCOUNT FOR AUTOADD #46593
$-49.99

Subtotal: $1558.35
Tax: $0.00
Shipping and Handling: $10.31
Total Amount: $1571.65


I appreciate the advice everyone. I'm stuck on AMD....
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April 18, 2012 5:13:43 PM

Cougar PSU scares me a little and is gross overkill even if you CF. Would recommend Silverstone or Corsair in the 750-850W range at the same price. Modular is nice but not necessary given your case (plenty of room to fit a non-modular setup through the grommet and hide what you don't need).
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April 18, 2012 6:32:23 PM

J_E_D_70 said:
Cougar PSU scares me a little and is gross overkill even if you CF. Would recommend Silverstone or Corsair in the 750-850W range at the same price. Modular is nice but not necessary given your case (plenty of room to fit a non-modular setup through the grommet and hide what you don't need).


Is Cougar a bad brand? The reviews seemed ok on the egg... Guess we'll find out ><

I'll be moving my H80 from the current rig over to this box, so wanted to make sure I had enough room this time. Corsair + Corsair should work, plus an article I found says it fits P/P, so I should be ok.

I've already bought everything I just posted, so if I have to RMA or I'm not happy with it, I'll use your suggestions. Thanks J_E_D!
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April 25, 2012 4:13:49 PM

Best answer selected by Clint_Beastwood.
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