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April 11, 2012 7:25:17 PM

Case: CoolerMaster HAF 912 Gaming

http://www.att.is/product_info.php?cPath=26_101&product...


PSU: 600W Corsair GS600

http://www.att.is/product_info.php?cPath=41_34&products...


Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz

http://www.att.is/product_info.php?cPath=41_28_288&prod...


Motherboard: No idea! Which of these do you reccomend: http://www.att.is/index.php?cPath=41_25_291

I wont be overclocking or getting two graphic cards in the future.


RAM: Corsair 1600MHz 8GB (2x4GB) Vengeance Black

http://www.att.is/product_info.php?cPath=41_16_237&prod...


SSD: 60GB Corsair Solid State Force 3

http://www.att.is/product_info.php?cPath=41_24_268&prod...


HDD: 500GB, Seagate SATA3 6Gb/s, 16MB cache, 7200rpm

http://www.att.is/product_info.php?cPath=41_24_98&produ...


Graphics card: MSI GeForce N570GTX Twin Frozr III/O

http://www.att.is/product_info.php?cPath=41_138_139&pro...


Sound card: Asus Xonar DX/XD 7.1

http://www.att.is/product_info.php?cPath=41_37&products...


One thing im confused about is the cooling for the i5 processor.. Do I need to buy a seperate fan for it or is there one attached to it already? (terrible noob btw).

I also want my rig to be quiet, so I was wondering about getting the CoolerMaster Silencio 550 but im worried there wont be efficient air flow in that case.. what do you think?

Concerning the motherboard. Im spending a little over my budget already but i want a sufficient motherboard. I wont be doing SLI/Crossfire and i wont be overclocking.







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April 11, 2012 8:36:24 PM

There is a stock cooler with the i5, and you can use it if you wish to keep your budget low, and it will run fine if you aren't doing any overclocking. If you were to go with an aftermarket CPU cooler I would recommend getting the Coolermaster Hyper 212 - it's a great cooler and isn't too expensive too.

If I were you I would pick on whether you wanted less cable management or more cable management. The Silencio 550 has fantastic features like USB 3 and a card reader, with a great design and it is super silent, and it has a front and back fan pre-installed so the fans will keep air flowing through the case through the vents, but it could be a bit better. The only reason why you would go for a HAF would be for slightly better airflow and a bit more cable management, so it's your choice.

Third, go for the H77 MSI motherboard, its a good motherboard and actually is the cheapest one that can support the Vengeance 1600MHz RAM, on the cheaper ones the RAM won't work.
April 11, 2012 8:45:26 PM

Cold_War said:
There is a stock cooler with the i5, and you can use it if you wish to keep your budget low, and it will run fine if you aren't doing any overclocking. If you were to go with an aftermarket CPU cooler I would recommend getting the Coolermaster Hyper 212 - it's a great cooler and isn't too expensive too.

If I were you I would pick on whether you wanted less cable management or more cable management. The Silencio 550 has fantastic features like USB 3 and a card reader, with a great design and it is super silent, and it has a front and back fan pre-installed so the fans will keep air flowing through the case through the vents, but it could be a bit better. The only reason why you would go for a HAF would be for slightly better airflow and a bit more cable management, so it's your choice.

Third, go for the H77 MSI motherboard, its a good motherboard and actually is the cheapest one that can support the Vengeance 1600MHz RAM, on the cheaper ones the RAM won't work.


The HAF 912 has great cable management. I have that same case and I was able to route all PSU cables behind the motherboard tray with no problems.

If you get the Vengeance RAM watch the tall heat sinks, I'm not the biggest fan of MSI motherboards - Asus or Gigabyte would be far better.

That site doesn't seem to give you a lot of selection so I guess most of what's in that build is fine for the most part.
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April 11, 2012 8:51:38 PM

Alright awesome. Thanks for the feedback. I will be asking the store to assemble the rig for me though. When you say cable management what do you mean?
April 11, 2012 8:54:37 PM

I really like the look of the Silencio 550 and I assume you can install an optional fan into it no? Would that be a good idea?
April 11, 2012 8:58:09 PM

FlyingCupHolder said:
Alright awesome. Thanks for the feedback. I will be asking the store to assemble the rig for me though. When you say cable management what do you mean?


It gives you the ability to route the cables behind the motherboard tray of your case to improve system air flow and usually cuts out a hole where the CPU sits so you can install an aftermarket cooler without removing the motherboard.

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I really like the look of the Silencio 550 and I assume you can install an optional fan into it no? Would that be a good idea?


I'd suggest reading this about setting up good air flow in your case: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooling-airflow-hea...
April 11, 2012 9:15:36 PM

For a quiet case get a corsair 550d I have one and it's quiet. It's very simplistic in design, but has alot of features.
April 11, 2012 9:44:24 PM

Since you don't plan on overclocking, you might take a look at the i5-2400. Has an insignificant drop in clock speed compared the the 2500k but costs about $30 less.

The i5 does come with a fan, and since you don't want to overclock it should be sufficient for you needs. Although you can get a good aftermarket heatsink for $20.

Motherboard wise, I recommend the ASRock Pro3Gen3 for your needs. Single PCI-e 3.0 Slot and Ivy Bridge ready. Gives you a little bit of future proofing since you don't plan to overclock or add a second graphics card.

Looks good otherwise.

Sorry I dont know the USD conversion for your currency, but good luck, just finished my build and am so happy with it.
April 11, 2012 10:09:15 PM

RAM - skip the toothy heat sinks and get the low profile version.

Case - A case w/o a front USB 3 port is unforgivable at this point in time.

GFX - I wouldn't do the Frozr, I'd opt for an 8 or more phase VRM design.

http://www.overclock.net/t/929152/have-you-killed-a-570...

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Gigabyte 570 OC Windorce 3x and MSI 570 TwinFrozr II both use the reference PCB design with 6 phase VRM (4 for GPU and 2 for memory). They simply put a custom cooler on top. MSI cards have similar incidents [fried boards] reported


SSD - I do not recommend SSD's less than 120 / 128GB in size unless you are an astute Windows user.

Get as close to the top of the list as you can afford:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-review-benchmar...

Sound Card - Redundant, already on MoBo.

AS for SLI, yu can add 75-80% performance someday with just a small investment in a 2nd GFX card at a later date.....really not worth skimping $20 on MoBo to cut yaself off from this future option.

Also, buying a 2500k and not OC'ing it would be very unusual.....4.5 Ghz is cake...... $25 gets ya a Hyper 212 if ya ever wanna go that way.

I can't see the price premium or Ivy Bridge.....ASUS P8Z68-V PRO or ASUS P8P67 Pro will do just fine....nothin there be 3 years or more before ya have any upgrade limitations with either.

April 11, 2012 10:21:20 PM

Price premium? It is going to be similarly priced to SB.
April 11, 2012 10:43:23 PM

Cold_War said:
There is a stock cooler with the i5, and you can use it if you wish to keep your budget low, and it will run fine if you aren't doing any overclocking. If you were to go with an aftermarket CPU cooler I would recommend getting the Coolermaster Hyper 212 - it's a great cooler and isn't too expensive too.

If I were you I would pick on whether you wanted less cable management or more cable management. The Silencio 550 has fantastic features like USB 3 and a card reader, with a great design and it is super silent, and it has a front and back fan pre-installed so the fans will keep air flowing through the case through the vents, but it could be a bit better. The only reason why you would go for a HAF would be for slightly better airflow and a bit more cable management, so it's your choice.

Third, go for the H77 MSI motherboard, its a good motherboard and actually is the cheapest one that can support the Vengeance 1600MHz RAM, on the cheaper ones the RAM won't work.



Question: On the MSI H77MA-G43 I see no HDMI connection in the description. Which connection should I use to my monitor?

Its this one btw: http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS24A350HS/...

So which connection is best for performance, quality?

April 11, 2012 11:55:32 PM

DVI to HDMI cable.
April 11, 2012 11:58:03 PM

DVI from the PC to the HDMI on my monitor?
April 12, 2012 12:02:14 AM

Yes. If you don't have HDMI on monitor, get a DVI to HDMI adapter.
April 12, 2012 12:03:21 AM

FlyingCupHolder said:
DVI from the PC to the HDMI on my monitor?


If you're running a current graphics card you should have either a mini-HDMI port or a full HDMI port. A mini HDMI port will look like the port at the top:



A full HDMI port will look like this (port in middle):



If you have that you should hook through HDMI to take advantage of full resolution.
April 12, 2012 12:58:46 AM

So is the audio in MSI H77MA-G43 good? I plan on getting the Creative Gigaworks T20 or better. From what I have checked a seperate audio card is always better than onboard audio?
April 12, 2012 4:23:42 PM

FlyingCupHolder said:
So is the audio in MSI H77MA-G43 good? I plan on getting the Creative Gigaworks T20 or better. From what I have checked a seperate audio card is always better than onboard audio?


That used to be true but not anymore - the onboard audio has been greatly improved on the last few generations to the point where a sound card isn't necessary.
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