[Solved] 2 GeForce GTX 560 Ti's VS 1 GTX 580

I was looking to build my first computer and I was just wondering if 2 GeForce GTX 560 Ti's would be better than a single GTX 580. The $500 range would be my max so if there is a different video card that would be better I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks.

Reply to Manifesto316

A GTX560ti SLI combo would wipe the floor with a single GTX580 (20% better in fact) but either combo would run anything you can throw at it without breaking a sweat.

Of course you could get the 580 and upgrade it to SLI further down the line

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smeg4brainsuk wrote :

A GTX560ti SLI combo would wipe the floor with a single GTX580 (20% better in fact) but either combo would run anything you can throw at it without breaking a sweat.

Of course you could get the 580 and upgrade it to SLI further down the line

I'm already breaking the bank with this build so I think the dual GTX 560's would be the best option for me.

Thanks for the reply.

Reply to Manifesto316

the 580 would be the best choice. the numbers in the benchmarks are one thing, actual performance is another. If you have so much money to spend, why not get one of the new amd cards. both are better performers than either cards you mentioned ..??

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swifty_morgan wrote :

the 580 would be the best choice. the numbers in the benchmarks are one thing, actual performance is another. If you have so much money to spend, why not get one of the new amd cards. both are better performers than either cards you mentioned ..??

Well which AMD cards would be comparable?

Reply to Manifesto316

7970/7950............... look them up.

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Reply to swifty_morgan

swifty_morgan wrote :

7970/7950............... look them up.

So you're saying that any one of those cards would be better than 2 560's? I haven't got the money to double up on either of them.

Reply to Manifesto316

they are better by themselves. you don't have to buy 2 cards.

Reply to swifty_morgan

GTX 580 and then SLi them later on in the year is an option.
the HD 7950 is also out but if wait then wait for the nVidia releases as well.

really it depends on monitor set-up, how many and what resolution.?
what motherboard also are you looking at.?

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Message edited by malmental on 02-03-2012 at 11:41:29 PM

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malmental wrote :

GTX 580 and then SLi them later on in the year is an option.
the HD 7950 is also out but if wait then wait for the nVidia releases as well.

really it depends on monitor set-up, how many and what resolution.?
what motherboard also are you looking at.?

I was just looking at a bunch of charts and dual 560's isn't much better than a singe 580 so I'm just going to get that or the AMD equivalent.

And the motherboard is a MSI P67A-GD65. If there is a better option let me know.

Reply to Manifesto316

easy....
GTX 560's and GTX 560 Ti's are totally different.
also there is GTX 560 Ti -448..

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Reply to malmental

malmental wrote :

easy....
GTX 560's and GTX 560 Ti's are totally different.
also there is GTX 560 Ti -448..

Ok. I was just referring to the 560 Ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130610

Also I was planning on getting two 1080P monitors.

Message edited by Manifesto316 on 02-03-2012 at 11:59:59 PM

Reply to Manifesto316

If I was spending $500 today on a GPU it would be on this:

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-111 [...] B0070APVP2

The OC'ed 7950 will be very close in frame rates to the 560 ti's in SLI.

Reply to JamesSneed

^
only when crazy overclocked will the HD 7950 match SLi GTX 560 Ti's....
let's not blow it out of proportion.
and SLi GTX 560 Ti's are more equal or slightly better than the HD 7970.

if GTX 460's in SLi and overclocked can beat the GTX 580 at stock
GTX 560's are up to 15FPS better than the GTX 460's and close to 22FPS in SLi
from there you do the math..

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Reply to malmental

Is there any particular brand you would recommend with the HD 7970?

Reply to Manifesto316

not the reference model.
spend the extra dollar or two for the XFX, GIGABYTE and/or ASUS custom editions.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121499
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150586
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125413

though I think you mean HD 7950.
look here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 50&x=0&y=0
(use same non-reference principal)

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Message edited by malmental on 02-04-2012 at 01:46:51 AM

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Reply to malmental

560ti SLI offer much more vale for you hard earned dollars if you are already setup for SLI that is.

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Gordon Freeman wrote :

560ti SLI offer much more vale for you hard earned dollars if you are already setup for SLI that is.

I think so too.
if exact matching cards I haven't even experienced 'microstuttering' at all so I hope the single card guys do not go there.

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Reply to malmental

malmental wrote :

not the reference model.
spend the extra dollar or two for the XFX, GIGABYTE and/or ASUS custom editions.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121499
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150586
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125413

though I think you mean HD 7950.
look here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 50&x=0&y=0
(use same non-reference principal)

Haha this is confusing the crap out of me. And I meant this card SAPPHIRE 21197-00-40G Radeon HD 7970 3GB.

But you think the dual 560ti SLI would be the best bet?

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Manifesto316 wrote :

Haha this is confusing the crap out of me. And I meant this card SAPPHIRE 21197-00-40G Radeon HD 7970 3GB.

But you think the dual 560ti SLI would be the best bet?

as far as the best, I can't say.
but I rather have SLi GTX 560 Ti's over the HD 7950/70 especially if wanting nVidia
and you can actually get one at a time since your not starting out with a triple monitor set-up.
GTX 560 Ti -448's or even GTX 570's if going one at a time.
my opinion.
(I have had both nVidia and HD Radeon set-ups and both in dual configs with single and triple monitors)
I prefer nVidia.

and isn't there already a revision of the HD 7970 coming out.?
but the HD 7970 is beastly though reports say the GTX 660 Ti and maybe the GTX 660 will catch it.
GTX 670 and GTX 680 will surpass it they say.
it will be interesting to see what the truth will be.

Message edited by malmental on 02-04-2012 at 02:17:30 AM

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Reply to malmental

Ok thanks a lot.

No matter what I end up doing I'm sure it will be much better than my single GTX260.

Reply to Manifesto316

it's up to you, like I said if not running triple monitors then you can get one card at at time, no need to break your bank if not needed.
GTX 570's in SLi is a crazy killer set-up for example.

but if wanting to spend either $450+ (7950) up to $600+ (7970) in one shot then right now the HD Radeon is the move.

Message edited by malmental on 02-04-2012 at 02:31:40 AM

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Reply to malmental

Malmental is right in many of his comments.
I agree that the 560ti SLi is a great performer as I'm running that myself , they overclock like mad and easily surpass the 580 and 7950 in some games....but if you are willing to spend more then I say consider getting a 7950, they are a great card and overclock very well .....but like malmental also said It would be wise to wait and see what Nvidia's 6xx series is going to be like especially if they sugest that they will be faster than the new ATI cards.

This is not a fanboy comment, I like both Nvidia and ATI, merely just stating that its wise to see what Nvidia does when they release the new cards , it will create some much needed competition to the market to force prices to drop from both Nvidia and ATI with new and current series cards....don't rush when its just around the corner.

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Reply to monsta

I'm not a real big PC gamer (I just kind of got swept up in all the excitement) so I think I will just get a single 560ti and then SLI it later if I feel it is necessary.

Reply to Manifesto316

Thats cool , I'm sure you will be happy with that set up like I am, you wanna get the best bang for buck with your budget so nothing wrong with getting excited

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Reply to monsta

I agree.
and I agree again....

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Reply to malmental

1gig cards don't cut it anymore. if you're going to run more than one monitor you need at least 2gig video ram. 2- 1gig cards does not equal 2gig video ram. the 560's will be worthless for what you want to do. stop reading "but they are as good as" BS and come back to reality. the architecture on the higher up cards are completely different and running two lower cards can't make up for the difference. Here you want to run at high res with mid range cards running 2 or eventually 3 monitors...... your money.......

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swifty_morgan wrote :

1gig cards don't cut it anymore. if you're going to run more than one monitor you need at least 2gig video ram. 2- 1gig cards does not equal 2gig video ram. the 560's will be worthless for what you want to do. stop reading "but they are as good as" BS and come back to reality. the architecture on the higher up cards are completely different and running two lower cards can't make up for the difference. Here you want to run at high res with mid range cards running 2 or eventually 3 monitors...... your money.......

anyways, moving on along.......
and if only running @ 1080 then 1GB will do fine, he stated only having 2 1080P monitors and not a Surround set-up.
yes maybe 2GB wold be a few frames better but not to the extent that this dude speaks.
560 Ti's will be worthless is a bunch of gibberish.

manifesto316 - stay with your plan

Message edited by malmental on 02-04-2012 at 02:03:36 PM

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Reply to malmental

monsta wrote :

Thats cool , I'm sure you will be happy with that set up like I am, you wanna get the best bang for buck with your budget so nothing wrong with getting excited

you had a reply that just disappeared.?
something about what 'swift_morgan' was saying, it just went away after a refresh...
now that's strange.

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Reply to malmental

Yeah just realised the op did metion something about multi monitor , didnt want to embarrass myself , thanks for pointing it out now.LOL

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Reply to monsta

MALMENT........... you're under the misconception that the extra ram is there for merely more FPS........... in a way that's true, but it's there for better performance at higher res at higher settings and in this case for multi monitor set ups.

why toss money on 2 mid range 1gig cards when for the same money you can have 1 higher end card that will perform better and run those extra monitors ?

except for my belief the OP came here asking advice when he already had 560's on his mind I can think of nothing.

Reply to swifty_morgan

I know VRAM is more than FPS but for higher resolutions in-particular.
what I'm saying is that running (gaming) @ 1080P in single monitor then 1GB is enough.
that's all, it's not argument worthy.

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Reply to malmental

Like I said before I'm not a real big PC gamer and when I do play it will just be on that single monitor so I don't need something super elaborate. I think I will get a better mother board in case I want to get 2nd video card or just a single more powerful one down the road.

Also I know this isn't the motherboards forum, but if you have a suggestion I'd be happy to hear it.

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Message edited by Manifesto316 on 02-04-2012 at 10:52:43 PM

Reply to Manifesto316

Manifesto316 wrote :

Like I said before I'm not a real big PC gamer and when I do play it will just be on that single monitor so I don't need something super elaborate. I think I will get a better mother board in case I want to get 2nd video card or just a single more powerful one down the road.

Also I know this isn't the motherboards forum, but if you have a suggestion I'd be happy to hear it.

AMD or Intel and what in-particular, what do you have already.?

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Reply to malmental

malmental wrote :

AMD or Intel and what in-particular, what do you have already.?

Intel.

What I've got so far is:

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811147053

Power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139011

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233143

SSD
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] pNo=557372

HDD
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digi [...] 334&sr=8-1

CPU cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835186134

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115070

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127608

Any opinions welcome.

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Message edited by Manifesto316 on 02-05-2012 at 12:04:18 AM

Reply to Manifesto316

primary usage for this unit is what, your not a hardcore gamer.?

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Reply to malmental

malmental wrote :

primary usage for this unit is what, your not a hardcore gamer.?

Mostly so I can give my friend my current PC so he can play SWTOR with me , and I would like to play Skyrim and get all the sweet mods, Starcraft 2, and Diablo 3 when it comes out.

Reply to Manifesto316

edit..

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Message edited by malmental on 02-05-2012 at 12:48:18 AM

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malmental wrote :

save you some money and make changes in other places with the money..

case:
1.) COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119197
- or -
2.) Rosewill ARMOR Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811147047

PSU:
1.) Antec EarthWatts Series EA-750 Green 750W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371051

RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231428

SSD: (same)
OCZ AGT3-25SAT3-120G Agility 3 Series
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] pNo=557372

HDD:
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148840

CPU Cooler:
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065

CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] k=i5-2500k

GPU: (same is good but with more money available maybe look for better)
1.) EVGA 012-P3-2068-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 448 Cores Classified
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130739
- or -
2.) EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130593

I think I'll switch out most of my stuff for those.

Do you think the 750W PSU would be enough if I was to get a second card for SLI?

And do you think the EVGA 570 would be much better than the 560 Ti?

And any suggestions for a motherboard?

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Message edited by Manifesto316 on 02-05-2012 at 12:45:00 AM

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Best answer

summary of list again (CHANGES MADE):

case:
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119197

PSU:
NZXT HALE82 HALE82-750-M 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817116015

RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231428

SSD: (same)
OCZ AGT3-25SAT3-120G Agility 3 Series
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] pNo=557372

HDD:
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148840

COOLING:
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103065

CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] k=i5-2500k

GPU:
1.) EVGA 012-P3-2068-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 448 Cores Classified
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130739
- or -
2.) EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130593

MOBO:
1.) GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128498

Message edited by malmental on 02-05-2012 at 01:08:18 AM

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Manifesto316 wrote :

I think I'll switch out most of my stuff for those.

Do you think the 750W PSU would be enough if I was to get a second card for SLI?

And do you think the EVGA 570 would be much better than the 560 Ti?

And any suggestions for a motherboard?

I updated the PSU and the GTX 560 Ti - 448 or the GTX 570 is what I selected.
yes, both are better than the GTX 560 Ti..

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Reply to malmental

malmental wrote :

I updated the PSU and the GTX 560 Ti - 448 or the GTX 570 is what I selected.
yes, both are better than the GTX 560 Ti..

I know both are better than the GTX 560 Ti, I was just wondering if there was a big difference between the GTX 560Ti - 448 and the GTX 570.

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Manifesto316 wrote :

I know both are better than the GTX 560 Ti, I was just wondering if there was a big difference between the GTX 560Ti - 448 and the GTX 570.

my apologies.
short answer, very little, less than 10FPS..

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malmental wrote :

my apologies.
short answer, very little, less than 10FPS..

It's cool. I think I'll do the GTX 560Ti - 448 then.

One more question: If I have a 600W UPS and have a higher load on in than the 600W will it short out or catch fire or anything?

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Manifesto316 wrote :

It's cool. I think I'll do the GTX 560Ti - 448 then.

One more question: If I have a 600W UPS and have a higher load on in than the 600W will it short out or catch fire or anything?

no worries, it's good to go.
I've seen higher watt PSU's connected to a 600-watt UPS before.

this build is more optimal for your plans.

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Message edited by malmental on 02-05-2012 at 01:27:45 AM

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malmental wrote :

no worries, it's good to go.
I've seen higher watt PSU's connected to a 600-watt UPS before.

this build is more optimal for your plans.

Good I just got it so I'd be sad if I had to get a new one.

I lied more questions: Does that motherboard you suggested support SLI/how do you tell?

EDIT: Watching the video I see is says SLI on the box so just the 2nd part of the question.

Message edited by Manifesto316 on 02-05-2012 at 01:44:58 AM

Reply to Manifesto316

it says it and SLi will always be at least x8/x8 it doesn't run x16/x4 like CF-X.
but this motherboard is SLi.
and as a plus this is also a Gen 3 board.

says it right on the box and web listing:
Multi-GPU Support with CrossFireX and SLI Flexible graphics capabilities supported for either CrossFireX or SLI deliver the ultimate in graphics performance for gaming enthusiasts who demand the highest frame rates without compromising on resolution.

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Message edited by malmental on 02-05-2012 at 01:52:29 AM

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malmental wrote :

it says it and SLi will always be at least x8/x8 it doesn't run x16/x4 like CF-X.
but this motherboard is SLi.
and as a plus this is also a Gen 3 board.

says it right on the box and web listing:
Multi-GPU Support with CrossFireX and SLI Flexible graphics capabilities supported for either CrossFireX or SLI deliver the ultimate in graphics performance for gaming enthusiasts who demand the highest frame rates without compromising on resolution.

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