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April 11, 2012 10:06:19 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: In a few days

Budget Range: $2000-3500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Games, Video/Photo editing, School, Movies

Parts Not Required: Speakers and maybe a monitor (Have a nice Samsung 1920x1200)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Intel

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 or greater

Ok so basically I need something that will let me max out games and do some video editing for the next couple years no problem. I already have a Samsung SyncMaster 245bw but if you can put something together with a better monitor that would be great too.


Case: COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K $599.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MOBO: ASUS P9X79 PRO LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS $319.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PSU: CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200 $279.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


RAM: Kingston HyperX 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler $94.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


GPU: Alright so since the GTX 680 is always sold out I don't know to go with a 7970 or a gtx 580 and then add another in the future. It will always be a single monitor setup. If I could get to

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB $299.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keyboard : RAZER Black USB Wired BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Gaming Keyboard $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse : RAZER Black 1 x Wheel USB Optical/Laser 6400 dpi Imperator 2012 Expert Ergonomic Gaming Mouse $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total: 2489.00


So if anyone can tweek this or make it better or cheaper that would be great!! Also if you could come up with a build with a monitor that's 2560 x 1600 that would be great too!!!

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April 11, 2012 10:10:22 PM

You will only need a Full Tower if you plan to run 4 GPUs. A mid tower can even fit 3 GPUs. Drop the case down to a Graphite 600T, Carbide 500R, or Obsidian 750D. A Radeon 7970 in CF runs better than SLI 580, consumes less power, and produces less heat. If you can wait a few days, the GTX 680 should be back in stock. Drop down the PSU to an 850W. 1200W is for 4 7970s.
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April 11, 2012 10:46:30 PM

will the mid tower fit the cooler I have?
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April 11, 2012 10:53:59 PM

I would still go full tower, better airflow, and just looks damn cool.

However, the bigger mid towers will still hold the D14, like my 922. I would still suggest the X or the 932 though.
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April 11, 2012 10:54:07 PM

azeem40 said:
You will only need a Full Tower if you plan to run 4 GPUs. A mid tower can even fit 3 GPUs. Drop the case down to a Graphite 600T, Carbide 500R, or Obsidian 750D. A Radeon 7970 in CF runs better than SLI 580, consumes less power, and produces less heat. If you can wait a few days, the GTX 680 should be back in stock. Drop down the PSU to an 850W. 1200W is for 4 7970s.


I agree that the 1200W is overkill - 950 or 850 will be plenty. Try this setup:

Case: Corsair Carbide 500R - $139.99
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII 950 - $149.99
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 Pro - $329.99
CPU: 3.3Ghz Intel Core i7-3930K - $599.99
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 Socket LGA 2011 Edition - $94.99
RAM: 16GB (4 x 4GB) Mushkin Enhanced Redline 1600MHz 1.5V - $139.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $164.99
HD: Samsung Ecogreen F4 2TB - $129.99
Optical: LG BD-R Burner - $79.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 680 - $499.99 - *OR* - Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 - $579.99
OS: Windows 7 Pro

Total: $2,468.98 (w/680), $2,567.98 (w/7970)
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April 11, 2012 10:56:49 PM

Why did you change it from 256gb to 128gb SSD.
Also, I would take that WD over the Samsung anyday..
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April 11, 2012 11:00:12 PM

gary1 said:
Why did you change it from 256gb to 128gb SSD.
Also, I would take that WD over the Samsung anyday..


You pay huge premiums for 256GB SSDs and if you have any sort of budget I'd invest that money elsewhere and put it in the storage last. Same with the Caviar Black - you're literally paying double for that drive what you would with the comparable Samsung. To me storage is like one of the least important parts of a system as you can always add or remove drives as your needs change.

That's just my opinion though.
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April 11, 2012 11:05:03 PM

He has a 3500$ budget bro. If he want's 256gb SSD, let him get it, I would get it if I had that budget.
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April 11, 2012 11:07:39 PM

gary1 said:
He has a 3500$ budget bro. If he want's 256gb SSD, let him get it, I would get it if I had that budget.


Yeah but why pay $300 unnecessarily in storage when you could spend that elsewhere and get 2 x 680?
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April 11, 2012 11:18:24 PM

I understand you plan on purchasing in a few days, I'm just posting this to give you something to look at.


Ivy Bridge cpu's are due out April 29th.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626/ivy-bridge-preview-c... <---- Ivy Bridge cpu review with benchmarks



http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-overclock... <----- Overclocking the gtx 680 w/benchmarks



This build allows you to add another one of those cards later on in SLI.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Gaming-CC-... $116.16 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

This XFX psu down below is manufactured by Seasonic as are all XFX psu's and the mid and upper tier Corsair psu's.

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-850-Power-Supply/dp/B0050... $122.75 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
XFX PRO850W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80 Plus Silver Certified 850 Watt Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $174.99
ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://pcper.com/news/Processors/Intel-Ivy-Bridge-Proce... $332
Intel i7-3770K Ivy Bridge CPU 3.5Ghz

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-2... $34.29 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

Add this fan down below to that CM 212 EVO cpu h/s for a "push - pull" effect to help bring the cpu temps down even more.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-BladeMaster-Silent-... $11.99 Free Standard Shipping (3-5 days)
Cooler Master BladeMaster 120mm PWM High Air Flow Silent Case Fan R4-BMBS-20PK-R0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $114.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C10D-16GAO

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD%C2%B1RW-Serial-Intern... $19.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Asus 24xDVD±RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-ST2000DM001-Barracuda-3-5... $119.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate ST2000DM001 Barracuda 7200RPM 2 TB SATA 6 GB/s NCQ 64 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $238.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe MKNSSDCR240GB-DX 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
ASUS GTX680-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

Total: $1,887.16 *not including shipping and mail in rebates


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $239.99
G.SKILL Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C10Q-32GAO

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CA-9011111-WW-Vengeance-A... $69.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair CA-9011111-WW Vengeance 1300 Analog Gaming Headset

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Channel-Sound-Card-XONAR_DG/... $26.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
ASUS PCI 5.1 Channel Sound Card XONAR_DG

http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/... <---- a better look at that case

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z77%20Extre... <----- a better look at that board
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April 11, 2012 11:19:13 PM

mfauver22601 said:
SSD: Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB $299.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would swap this for a Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe 240GB SSD, on sale right now for $240 with free shipping. The sale ends 4/16/12. From everything I have read this is a great drive, and one of the fastest you can get. It should save you some money and give you "better performance" over the Crucial drive, and is probably the best bang for your buck drive out there right now.

If you want to go the route of "Best drive regardless of price" drive then most people will probably recommend one of the Intel 520 Drives, but then you are looking at $345 for the 240 GB Intel 520 Series Cherryville SSDSC2CW240A310.

Outside of that, I personally would grab the Radeon HD 7970 over a GTX 580 if you don't want to wait for the 680 to be available again.
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April 11, 2012 11:28:34 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Yeah but why pay $300 unnecessarily in storage when you could spend that elsewhere and get 2 x 680?

Why pay $500 unnecessarily for a second 680 if he is on 1920x1200? It's a waste of $ because one GTX 680 is more than enough for 1200p. It is even enough for 5760x1200. At that res, he can still get 50fps constantly on max. 256GB is just fine also.
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April 11, 2012 11:33:28 PM

i could wait for Ivy Bridge but is there availability going to be like the gtx 680's?
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April 11, 2012 11:35:29 PM

mfauver22601 said:
i could wait for Ivy Bridge but is there availability going to be like the gtx 680's?

I don't remember off hand of the SB cpu's running out on newegg and they were selling like hot cakes on there, even when the P67 boards were pulled off the market for the silicone fix.
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April 11, 2012 11:41:19 PM

Why_Me said:
I don't remember off hand of the SB cpu's running out on newegg and they were selling like hot cakes on there, even when the P67 boards were pulled off the market for the silicone fix.


Yeah I remember when the P67 boards were pulled, I can't imagine that happening on Z77 boards. I think once production picks up we'll get stock again.
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April 11, 2012 11:56:17 PM

Ok so it looks like I should wait for ivy bridge and try to grab a gtx 680 when they come available. Still debating if I should get a full tower or a mid size.

Here's another question. If you had my budget what would you build?

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April 11, 2012 11:58:21 PM

azeem40 said:
Why pay $500 unnecessarily for a second 680 if he is on 1920x1200? It's a waste of $ because one GTX 680 is more than enough for 1200p. It is even enough for 5760x1200. At that res, he can still get 50fps constantly on max. 256GB is just fine also.


Yeah true that is a bit unnecessary but if you've got the budget that's where I'd rather see the money go.

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Here's another question. If you had my budget what would you build?


Something similar to what I posted earlier in this thread but with a couple of really nice 24" 120hz monitors thrown in.
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April 12, 2012 12:01:31 AM

GPU isn't that important that you'd get overkill on something one 680 can handle with ease.
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April 12, 2012 12:11:52 AM

g-unit1111 said:
Yeah true that is a bit unnecessary but if you've got the budget that's where I'd rather see the money go.

Something similar to what I posted earlier in this thread but with a couple of really nice 24" 120hz monitors thrown in.

You read what the OP plans on using his PC for, so what would you say the advantages of a LGA 2011 has over the Ivy Bridge build?
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April 12, 2012 12:12:44 AM

I used to be against Why_Me's suggestions, but now I am all for it.
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April 12, 2012 12:18:19 AM

mfauver22601 said:
Ok so it looks like I should wait for ivy bridge and try to grab a gtx 680 when they come available. Still debating if I should get a full tower or a mid size.

Here's another question. If you had my budget what would you build?

For what you posted on your needs for a PC.....it's the Ivy Bridge hands down. Advantages are runs cooler, uses a lot less juice, over clocks better and for cheaper.

Advantages of a LGA 2011 build would be...you can use 64GB of RAM instead of 32GB. Seeing how everyone on this thread that posted a LGA 2011 build chose to put 4x4GB of RAM in their build, your already screwed in that dept. So no advantage there unless you want to dump that RAM later on and purchase a complete new set.

If you want x16 & x16...which is no advantage by looking at the benchmarks unless you plan on running quad vid cards someday... then you purchase this board down below.

http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z7...
ASUS P8Z77 WS
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April 12, 2012 12:41:21 AM

I wouldn't go with that CPU if your not realy heavy on video editing. An i7-2600k would probably be fine and use a cheaper mobo. You could Also wait for the ivy bridge.

Sure if you got the money go for it but since you've listed gaming as first goal I wouldn't advice you a 600$ CPU. The i7-2600k or its ivy bridge upgrade i7-3770k for 320$ or so might be enough.

As for ram I'm a fan of corsaire vengence or the G.skill rams.

Case: Yours is good but with such a high budget I'd just link you this one: http://www.aerocool.com.tw/index.php/products/strike-x/... (Tomshardware made a review about that one)

I'm not saying that you should buy this one instead of yours but that would probably be my choice if I didn't wanted a side window on my case.

Edit: Your PSU is high rated by most website review but I'm bias since I bought the combo with that PSU + Case: Corsaire Obsidian 800d for a nice 35$ combo rebate woot.
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April 12, 2012 4:33:07 PM

Why_Me said:
You read what the OP plans on using his PC for, so what would you say the advantages of a LGA 2011 has over the Ivy Bridge build?


I think its' going to be more future proof in the long run once IB-E CPUs start coming out - I think they'll use the same socket if I'm not mistaken. The biggest advantage is the larger RAM capacities but it's true that you don't really need it unless you're doing some heavy duty rendering and CS5 in addition to gaming. I'll probably wind up moving my system to Z77 as I saw EVGA's Z77 FTW board and it looks sweet, but I'm waiting and seeing what Ivy Bridge brings when actual benchmarks are released.
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April 12, 2012 5:13:47 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I think its' going to be more future proof in the long run once IB-E CPUs start coming out - I think they'll use the same socket if I'm not mistaken. The biggest advantage is the larger RAM capacities but it's true that you don't really need it unless you're doing some heavy duty rendering and CS5 in addition to gaming. I'll probably wind up moving my system to Z77 as I saw EVGA's Z77 FTW board and it looks sweet, but I'm waiting and seeing what Ivy Bridge brings when actual benchmarks are released.


Look here: http://ppbm6/Planning.html

A simple 1155 platform is way too limited for video editing. It is great for all you gamers out here, but not when you want to build a decent system.
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April 12, 2012 5:49:31 PM

gary1 said:
I would still go full tower, better airflow, and just looks damn cool.

However, the bigger mid towers will still hold the D14, like my 922. I would still suggest the X or the 932 though.


But how do you know it has better airflow for sure, what if its really traps in heat and scrambles airflow
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April 12, 2012 5:56:41 PM

Harm Millaard said:
Look here: http://ppbm6/Planning.html

A simple 1155 platform is way too limited for video editing. It is great for all you gamers out here, but not when you want to build a decent system.

That link doesn't work for me.
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April 12, 2012 7:44:49 PM

Harm Millaard said:
Something weird going on here. No editing capabilities anymore and modified links appearing out of nowhere.

See http://ppbm6.com/Planning.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626/ivy-bridge-preview-c... <---- try this link. this was done with an older Z68 board meant for Sandy Bridge, not the newer Z77 boards that just came out for Ivy Bridge. That build I posted will do just fine for video editing. 32GB of RAM, quick sync, lucid virtu, and hyper threaded cpu.
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April 12, 2012 8:01:12 PM

Why_Me said:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626/ivy-bridge-preview-c... <---- try this link. this was done with an older Z68 board meant for Sandy Bridge, not the newer Z77 boards that just came out for Ivy Bridge. That build I posted will do just fine for video editing. 32GB of RAM, quick sync, lucid virtu, and hyper threaded cpu.


Only if you don't want to use a second video card, for instance for AE, because that leads to a 10 -15% performance degradation, or if you want to use a Black Magic, Matrox or AJA card or a dedicated raid controller. In all those cases you are f*cked because of the limited PCIe lanes on that platform.
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April 12, 2012 8:47:50 PM

Harm Millaard said:
Only if you don't want to use a second video card, for instance for AE, because that leads to a 10 -15% performance degradation, or if you want to use a Black Magic, Matrox or AJA card or a dedicated raid controller. In all those cases you are f*cked because of the limited PCIe lanes on that platform.

If you read the OP, it doesn't look like he's going to be doing video editing professionally. Granted the 1155 cpu is limited to 16 lanes but I don't see the OP gaming while he's video editing using quick sync and the HD4000.


http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z7...
ASUS P8Z77 WS




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