Upgrading Integrated Graphics to Radeon HD 6570

[Zuper6]

So what other parts will I need to upgrade my Nvidia 6150SE Integrated Graphics to a Radeon HD 6570.

My Computer : http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01616203&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=3867474#N330


The Graphics Card I want to buy because I'm on a low budget : http://www.bestbuy.com/site/MSI+Computer+-+R6570-MD2GD3/LP+Radeon+HD+6570+Graphic+Card+-+650+MHz+Core+-+2+GB+DDR3+SDRAM+-+PCI+Express+2.1+x16Low-profile/4334001.p?id=1218475512279&skuId=4334001&st=msi%20radeon%20hd%205770&cp=1&lp=14

If anyone has any suggestions on a better card, Please let me know thank you. : )

 

[hella-d]

Looks Like A Fairly Decent Card But Id Reccomend Going To Newegg.com Youd Likely Find Better Prices And Better Selections

 

[SectorC]

Hi Zuper6,

actually it depends on what ambitions you're trying to achieve with your machine. what kind of games .. video quality..etc
if you're just going to use it to watch HD movies or to use video software like after effect then maybe an nvidia 430 gt will do the job and it's less cheaper than an HD 6570 coz 430 gt is fully dedicated to home theater so there will be no need for you to spend money for things that you don't need .. also the nvidia GT 430 with the specs of that machine can help you even retouch images with any 2d package out there it supports opengl 4.1 if i'm not wrong and directx 11 (full support) but it doesn't have a terrible specs to play games .. but believe me .. I ran crysis 2 on it in 800*600 resolution and it works fine with quad core 8200.

Now, if you want to play games with those specs .. the HD 6570 is good but think first about upgrading your memory.

know that during the game play (the CPU, the RAM and the Graphic card) has to send a lot of data from one to the other so if the ram frequency is not good enough than one of the other pieces must be idle .; waiting for the ram to answer .. same for the GC and the CPU.. also a good hard drive speed will help too.. my suggestion when to thing about graphic performance is to look for all these 3 major hardware pieces not only the GPU .. I'm not saying spend more money .. but having all in the mid range or even the entry level hardware .. is better than 3 pieces in mid range and 1 piece HIGH end.
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Hope this help

 

[Zuper6]

Hi Zuper6,

actually it depends on what ambitions you're trying to achieve with your machine. what kind of games .. video quality..etc
if you're just going to use it to watch HD movies or to use video software like after effect then maybe an nvidia 430 gt will do the job and it's less cheaper than an HD 6570 coz 430 gt is fully dedicated to home theater so there will be no need for you to spend money for things that you don't need .. also the nvidia GT 430 with the specs of that machine can help you even retouch images with any 2d package out there it supports opengl 4.1 if i'm not wrong and directx 11 (full support) but it doesn't have a terrible specs to play games .. but believe me .. I ran crysis 2 on it in 800*600 resolution and it works fine with quad core 8200.

Now, if you want to play games with those specs .. the HD 6570 is good but think first about upgrading your memory.

know that during the game play (the CPU, the RAM and the Graphic card) has to send a lot of data from one to the other so if the ram frequency is not good enough than one of the other pieces must be idle .; waiting for the ram to answer .. same for the GC and the CPU.. also a good hard drive speed will help too.. my suggestion when to thing about graphic performance is to look for all these 3 major hardware pieces not only the GPU .. I'm not saying spend more money .. but having all in the mid range or even the entry level hardware .. is better than 3 pieces in mid range and 1 piece HIGH end.
..
Hope this help

Ty SectorC for replying, I have read your message and I have some products I was thinking of buying.. I was wondering If you can take a look at them and give me advice on whether to invest in them. Also I have no idea on what to buy for my Computer if I wanted to upgrade my memory (Like RAM? or..?), Could you please help me with that. Thank you for your help and advice.

So for the Graphics Card : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121441&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo


Power Supply : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031

 

[jaguarskx]

You do not need to upgrade the 250w power supply. The Radeon HD 6570 uses relatively little power.

As for your RAM, unless you have Windows Vista 64-bit or Windows 7 64-bit installed 3GB of RAM is fine. 32-bit operating systems can only address up to 4GB of RAM, but after taking into consideration the necessary address space for various devices on the motherboard, you are typically limited to roughly 3.25GB to 3.4GB of addressable RAM. Therefore, more RAM (like 8GB worth) is not worth it for a 32-bit operating system.

 

[Zuper6]

You do not need to upgrade the 250w power supply. The Radeon HD 6570 uses relatively little power.

As for your RAM, unless you have Windows Vista 64-bit or Windows 7 64-bit installed 3GB of RAM is fine. 32-bit operating systems can only address up to 4GB of RAM, but after taking into consideration the necessary address space for various devices on the motherboard, you are typically limited to roughly 3.25GB to 3.4GB of addressable RAM. Therefore, more RAM (like 8GB worth) is not worth it for a 32-bit operating system.

: O i did not know that It can run off a 250w PSU, thats a relief just saved like $50 bucks right there.. So I guess the only reasonable part I would need to buy is the Graphics Card then. Thank you for the advice

 

[SectorC]

You're welcome friend

first, the stuff are good comparing to the specs you have ... go for it .. and I'm gonna give you a good system specs example for a cheaper price as a template.. take it in consideration for further knowledge need.

these are for desktop PC:

- CPU: an i3 with a frequency between 2.4 to 3.0 Ghz example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077

- Ram: any DDR3 i3 compatible processor will do the job .. and just stick with 4 Gigabytes: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178382

- Motherboard: this is a cheaper and very good one for a small and respectable specs : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138338
and it's compatible 1155 LGA and Core i7 / i5 / i3 / Pentium / Celeron (LGA1155)

- Graphic cards I would say a GT 430 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125346
but if you can afford more, then GTX 460 is one the best cards Quality/Price ever made by nvidia in the Directx 11 fermi series http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127646

I had GTX 460 in SLI months ago and they were fantastic (but keep in mind the game itself should be programmed to take advantage of multi GPU present in your machine .. not any game will be boosted by SLI or crossfire)

Hard disks and case you can choose whatever you like but keep in mind that a good hard disk speed is always better. SATA III or better (SSD)

with these specs .. this is a small list of games that you can run 100% comfortable in 1024*768 resolution considering that we have 460 gtx.

Crysis 2 Full options .. I ran it myself in 460 gtx 4 Gb ram and a quad 8200.
FEAR 3 .. fear series of game is too enjoyable as a game and doesn't eat much resources.. with such system you can run it in full HD resolution 1650
battlefield you play as well but (1024*768) comfotable .. more than that FPS decrease not because of the graphic card but because of CPU and memory.

Softwares:
3dsmax Photoshop Aftereffect zBrush Sonyvega ... you can use them with no problem .. something is sure that 3d rendering sucks even if rendered by farm .. always you wait when to render so don't use rendering as a reference to make a decision. (rendring in 3d packages is done using the CPU)

if you have any other question .. please drop a line

hope this help

 

[Deemo13]

The 6570 would be a great upgrade for a system like that. It would allow you to do whatever you want to do, the lower-end Radeons are really good bang-for-the-buck value and a 6570 would allow you to play most games on lowered graphics and you could do some HD video editing. Also, the 6000-series AMD Radeons have Blu-Ray support, so you can even watch Blu-rays on it. That being said, you would need a Blu-ray drive, so its not exactly worth it until they get cheap.

If it is gaming you want, I would try to find a Radeon 5670 or 6670. They have more power and use only just a tad less power. I am not sure it would run on a 250W, but I know they run on generic (crappy) 300W ones they usually put into HP's. Most of the 5670 or 6670 cards are under $100, but finding one cheap that also has GDDR5 is rather hard.

I'm not going to explain GDDR5, just that it is faster than DDR3. I am not sure how much of a difference it actually makes, so someone can clarify that for me. We're all still learning here. If someone would be able to back me up on saying the 5670 or 6670 can run on a 250W I would say go for that over the 6570. If not, then stick with the 6570.

Oh, and dont ever buy any computer-related stuff from BestBuy unless it requires drastic means, like a failed power supply at a LAN party or something. Their graphics cards and stuff are usually overpriced and not worth it. They also dont have much of a selection either, so theres that.