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Anonymous
July 22, 2005 6:01:53 PM

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I am a former ATTWS subscriber who has been "migrated" over to
Cingular. I feel as if I have been in some no-man's land since the
merger. I would like to change my phone from a Moto V551(ATTWS Sim) to
a Nokia 6230. I currently receive a discount for being a Federal
employee. After speaking with Cingular's business rep, I am left with
only the option to purchase new equipment and a new rate plan. That
probably means a new 2 year agreement. Any advice from others in my
situation? What am I gaining or giving up by switching to Cingular?
It's funny, but I thought that I WAS a Cingular customer! Neal

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Anonymous
July 22, 2005 9:15:19 PM

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In article <1122066113.952948.94710@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
njacobs1966@aol.com wrote:

> I am a former ATTWS subscriber who has been "migrated" over to
> Cingular.

You mean you choose/chose to migrate.



> I would like to change my phone from a Moto V551(ATTWS Sim) to
> a Nokia 6230. I currently receive a discount for being a Federal
> employee.

OK...


> After speaking with Cingular's business rep, I am left with
> only the option to purchase new equipment and a new rate plan. That
> probably means a new 2 year agreement. Any advice from others in my
> situation? What am I gaining or giving up by switching to Cingular?

7pm nights/weekends and free incoming text messages, not to mention that
Cingular gives fewer minutes for the same price you pay as a "blue"
customer.

Switching to Cingular *gains* you rollover minutes. You figure it out
for yourself.

If all you want is a new phone, you can simply buy one off ebay or
somewhere on the net. Make sure it's for ATT Wireless (either that or
unlocked), and put your SIM into it. You don't need to deal with
Cingular to do any of that.



> It's funny, but I thought that I WAS a Cingular customer!

You are a Cingular customer--a Cingular "blue" customer, complete with
your own "blue" support team that's really still separate from the
Cingular "orange" world.

I'm staying on my blue plan (with corporate discount, which ATT called a
foundation account). It's just too good to give up. You got similar
benefits as a federal employee, similarly too good to give up.
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 12:39:05 AM

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Thanks for the info. Nokia has a 6230i out that does not seem to be
available in the U.S. It has a better 1.3mp camera and a better screen.
If I search around and find a good deal on an unlocked 6230i, how can I
be sure that it will work on the Cingular network. Does Cingular work
on the 1900 band? Thanks.
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Anonymous
July 23, 2005 9:06:28 AM

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In <1122089945.218764.279960@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> on 22 Jul 2005
20:39:05 -0700, njacobs1966@aol.com wrote:

>... Does Cingular work
>on the 1900 band? Thanks.

In some places, but not in all places.

Your best bet is to get a phone with both 850 and 1900 bands.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
July 23, 2005 10:34:02 AM

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On 22 Jul 2005 20:39:05 -0700, njacobs1966@aol.com wrote:

>Thanks for the info. Nokia has a 6230i out that does not seem to be
>available in the U.S. It has a better 1.3mp camera and a better screen.
>If I search around and find a good deal on an unlocked 6230i, how can I
>be sure that it will work on the Cingular network. Does Cingular work
>on the 1900 band? Thanks.

As you may have seen from the spec the 6230i is 900/1800/1900 rather
than 850/1800/1900 which means it won't work as well in North America
since it does not have 850. It will still work since cingular now has
1900 everywhere with their absorbing ATTWS which had 1900 in all their
markets. The problem with ATTWS is when they first started GSM they
used 1900 only and it does not have the same range as 800/850. For
reception you really do need 850. The phone will work though not as
well (at least for voice) as a phone that has 850 support.

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Anonymous
July 23, 2005 3:53:33 PM

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That being stated, does anyone know if Nokia plans to introduce an
upgrade of the 6230 specifically for the North American market? I would
wait for an improved screen and a better toggle. Thanks.
July 23, 2005 11:55:28 PM

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njacobs1966@aol.com wrote:
> That being stated, does anyone know if Nokia plans to introduce an
> upgrade of the 6230 specifically for the North American market? I would
> wait for an improved screen and a better toggle. Thanks.
>

go to: http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/expectedsoon

and you might take a look at the 6020, 3155i, and others. I understand
that in the 4th quarter they will have a USA replacement for the 6260
which I am using. The 6260 is 900/1800/1900 and operates fine throughout
most of the world. And believe it or not, reception in my area is
outstanding even when out towards the coast at campgrounds where nothing
was picked up before (except perhaps some areas with ATT). Not having an
850 phone I don't know if the reception would be better.

And I'm certain you could find an 830i on eBay at a decent price -- how
well it will work depends on your area and where you travel. You might
wonder into a few local cellular stores and ask the question if 900
operates OK.

Miles
July 24, 2005 10:07:52 AM

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I was in your shoes.

I bought a new phone from www.cellhut.com. Just be sure to buy an
unlocked, GSM, 850/1900 phone. An 850/1900 phone works best on the Cingular
network.




<njacobs1966@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1122066113.952948.94710@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I am a former ATTWS subscriber who has been "migrated" over to
> Cingular. I feel as if I have been in some no-man's land since the
> merger. I would like to change my phone from a Moto V551(ATTWS Sim) to
> a Nokia 6230. I currently receive a discount for being a Federal
> employee. After speaking with Cingular's business rep, I am left with
> only the option to purchase new equipment and a new rate plan. That
> probably means a new 2 year agreement. Any advice from others in my
> situation? What am I gaining or giving up by switching to Cingular?
> It's funny, but I thought that I WAS a Cingular customer! Neal
>
Anonymous
July 26, 2005 2:54:19 AM

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In <vkh4e11qotug8j4uc7gmro6rku782ineqs@4ax.com> on Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:34:02
-0700, Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote:

>... The problem with ATTWS is when they first started GSM they
>used 1900 only and it does not have the same range as 800/850. For
>reception you really do need 850. ...

With all due respect, the range of 1900 is essentially the same range as 850.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular&gt;
Anonymous
August 6, 2005 5:49:27 PM

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> > It's funny, but I thought that I WAS a Cingular customer!
>
> You are a Cingular customer--a Cingular "blue" customer, complete with
> your own "blue" support team that's really still separate from the
> Cingular "orange" world.
>
> I'm staying on my blue plan (with corporate discount, which ATT called a
> foundation account). It's just too good to give up. You got similar
> benefits as a federal employee, similarly too good to give up.

I don't blame you, I'm keeping my Blue plan also. I don't have anything
against Cingular, I was actually a "reverse migrator" -- I switched from
Orange TDMA to Blue GSM for the North America add-on. If Cingular offers a
similar add-on instead of North American plans, I would switch, but there
isn't a comparable plan available (the Orange North American plans do not
have n/w or mobile-to-mobile minutes, and I have 2 phones on the account).

Not once have they asked me to switch to an Orange plan

TH
!