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April 13, 2012 1:51:40 AM

This is what I'm thinking But I'd like to get some feedback on some of the items and if something may be better. I'd also like a good liquid cooling system but I'm clueless when it comes to them.Also If ivy bridge continues to be pushed back should I go with a sandy bridge i7 2600k or a 3930 and get a x79 board.



Tower
Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply
CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

video card
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor
hoping for ivy bridge 3770k but not sure how long I want to wait for the release.

RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB ddr3 2133
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD
Corsair Force Series GT 120gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (Already own this) Thought of getting another for raid 0

Storage drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


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April 13, 2012 1:55:37 AM

One thing, otherwise it looks great.
Ditch 2133 MHz RAM. You will see no benefits using it.
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April 13, 2012 2:07:27 AM

^Agreed. May want a 2TB drive. IB is being released April 29th, so we're almost there! :)  I love the tower (wish I had one), and your motherboard is gorgeous. Man... that's going to be a beautiful build :) 
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April 13, 2012 2:09:04 AM

TBH if you're going to run a watercooled righ ditch the Level 10 case...far better alternatives out there like Corsair 800D, or NZXT Switch 810
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April 13, 2012 7:31:37 AM

Here's my future rig, which is at about your price point.

CPU: Intel 3930K
MoBo: ASUS Sabertooth X79
GPU: GTX 680 (x2)
RAM: 16 GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz
PSU: Seasonic Platinum 860
Case: Antec 300
SSD: Intel 520 120GB
CPU Fan: Noctua NH-D14

That totals about $2600, including tax and shipping. If you don't do SLi, you can subtract $510 for the GPU, and maybe another $100 for a smaller PSU - putting you at about $2000. Then you can take off $170 for the SSD since you already have that, for a total of $1830.

Most people here are going to suggest the 2500/2600/2700 or Ivy Bridge. If you are mostly playing videogames, any of those are a solid choice. For videogames, the 2600 (2500/2700) performs as well as, and sometimes slightly better than, the 3930/3960 - plus, it's half the price.

I went for the 3930/X79 in hopes of keeping up with future videogames better than the 2600 could. I also considered water cooling, and found that many people said air cooling will work fine as long as you're not doing extreme overclocking and get decent fans. That Noctua has gotten great reviews.

Good luck
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April 13, 2012 7:44:42 AM

I would suggest to look at a good cooler for your cpu. I would go for corsair hydro h100. The build looks solid btw
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April 13, 2012 7:04:43 PM

^Beauty, but how functional? It doesn't even have USB 3.0 slots... for a $250 case, that's pretty strange. Why is it better than others?
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April 13, 2012 7:37:46 PM

For two grand and not having to add an SSD to the build, I could get two gtx 680's in there...and all with quality parts including a quality Corsair case.
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April 13, 2012 11:20:04 PM

Thanks for the responses will switch to 1600mhz and I'm considering the NZXT Switch 810 case (white version) as its a good bit cheaper and has decent features and room for a good liquid cooling system.
any ideas on a good liquid cooling system ? I did look at the corsair h100 but I'd like to see it too see the tubes glowing so if anyone knows of some good kits etc let me know..
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April 13, 2012 11:31:52 PM

Why_Me said:
For two grand and not having to add an SSD to the build, I could get two gtx 680's in there...and all with quality parts including a quality Corsair case.


Yeah but you really need only one 680 and that works fine on ultra high resolutions.

Here's how I'd spend $2K:

Case: Azza Hurrican 2000 - $149.99 ($30.00 MIR)
PSU: Seasonic X850 Gold - $179.99
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 - $329.99
CPU: 3.6GHz Intel Core i7-3820 - $309.99
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - $34.99
Accessory: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Socket LGA 2011 Retention Bracket - $4.99
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw X 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1600MHz 1.5V - $119.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $159.99
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda ST - $119.99
Optical: LG BD-R Burner - $79.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 680 - $499.99

Total: $2,124.89

A little bit over budget and you can argue that X79 is overkill blah blah blah, but I think in the end once the dust settles there will still be X79 systems around while everyone else is abandoning their SB systems for Haswell.
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April 13, 2012 11:43:29 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Yeah but you really need only one 680 and that works fine on ultra high resolutions.

Here's how I'd spend $2K:

Case: Azza Hurrican 2000 - $149.99 ($30.00 MIR)
PSU: Seasonic X850 Gold - $179.99
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 - $329.99
CPU: 3.6GHz Intel Core i7-3820 - $309.99
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - $34.99
Accessory: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo Socket LGA 2011 Retention Bracket - $4.99
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw X 16GB (4 x 4GB) 1600MHz 1.5V - $119.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $159.99
HD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda ST - $119.99
Optical: LG BD-R Burner - $79.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 680 - $499.99

Total: $2,124.89

A little bit over budget and you can argue that X79 is overkill blah blah blah, but I think in the end once the dust settles there will still be X79 systems around while everyone else is abandoning their SB systems for Haswell.

Why would anyone think that LGA 2011 build you posted is over kill? It's under kill for a gaming build if anything. When it comes to gaming that 3820 is a dog and then some. That's just at standard clock speeds, when it comes to over clocking the 3820 becomes an even bigger dog vs a SB and/or IB build. It's like entering a John Deere tractor in a NASCAR race.

As far as that socket being around longer ....who cares if their a gamer? That socket is meant for workstation builds, not gaming. I mean you went over budget on that build and I can still post a 1155 build for a lot cheaper than will mop the floor with that build you posted.

It's like this. You spend more money for a slower gaming build in the hopes that the socket will be around longer? LOL? What would be the advantage to that?

If I purchase a car for $30,000 that tops out at 150 mph, uses a crap load of gas and runs hotter than a fire cracker, vs a car for $25,000 that tops out at 160 mph, uses less gas and runs cooler...well what car would you purchase?
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April 13, 2012 11:57:48 PM

I see there are a lot of people who undermine advice. He is just trying to help. No need to be so overzealous.
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April 14, 2012 12:11:48 AM

azeem40 said:
I see there are a lot of people who undermine advice. He is just trying to help. No need to be so overzealous.

Do you know what's helpful on here azeem? Helpful is when you see a build by an OP on here and let them know that the board they chose doesn't run dual vid cards like the OP thought it would. Anyone with an IQ of +5 can look at a build and notice something like a 7850, along with a 650w or even 750 psu, yet the board they posted has two PCI-E slots, yet one of them runs @ x4.

So if you didn't check the board the OP posted azeem, would you post on the thread...; "ya, good build"? Or would you point out to the OP that he/she has the wrong board for what they want...as in future upgrade with a second card?

What would you do azeem?
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April 14, 2012 12:13:52 AM

Not having a good day today, so I may have said that out of frustration.
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April 14, 2012 12:19:17 AM

azeem40 said:
Not having a good day today, so I may have said that out of frustration.

It wasn't you that made that mistake...twice today. :) 
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April 14, 2012 12:32:58 AM

That CM cpu cooler in this build runs head to head with the Noctua and for cheaper. I also threw in the Asrock extreme 6 along with a 240GB SSD and Windows 7.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-Gaming-CC-... $116.16 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-850-Power-Supply/dp/B0050... $122.75 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
XFX PRO850W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80 Plus Silver Certified 850 Watt Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $174.99
ASRock Z77 Extreme6 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://pcper.com/news/Processors/Intel-Ivy-Bridge-Proce... $225
Intel i5-3750K Ivy Bridge CPU 3.4Ghz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $39.99 FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER RR-H612-20PK-R3 120mm Sleeve with 6 Heat Pipes Hyper 612 PWM CPU Cooler

add this fan down below to that CM cpu h/s for a "push - pull" effect to help bring the cpu temps down even more.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-BladeMaster-Silent-... $10.25 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Cooler Master BladeMaster 120mm PWM High Air Flow Silent Case Fan R4-BMBS-20PK-R0

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $44.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $238.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe MKNSSDCR240GB-DX 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD%C2%B1RW-Serial-Intern... $22.48 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Asus 24xDVD±RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
ASUS GTX680-2GD5 GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $499.99
EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

Total: $1,650.58 *not including shipping and rebates
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April 14, 2012 12:42:41 AM

Why_Me said:
It wasn't you that made that mistake...twice today. :) 

What do you mean?
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April 14, 2012 12:46:31 AM

azeem40 said:
What do you mean?

meh...it wasn't you and I'm not going to name any names on here. :) 
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April 14, 2012 12:47:42 AM

Will look at the above build appreciate the information.

on a side note the MB I posted doesn't support sli ?? cause now I'm confused the specs on it said PCI Express 3.0 x16
2 (x16/0 or x8/x8).
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April 14, 2012 12:50:25 AM

oneshoe said:
Will look at the above build appreciate the information.

on a side note the MB I posted doesn't support sli ?? cause now I'm confused the specs on it said PCI Express 3.0 x16
2 (x16/0 or x8/x8).

Yep that Asus board supports SLI. We were spamming your thread about other threads in regards to the boards. That Asrock board I posted will go head to head with that Asus board and for cheaper.
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April 14, 2012 12:57:40 AM

Why_Me said:
Why would anyone think that LGA 2011 build you posted is over kill? It's under kill for a gaming build if anything. When it comes to gaming that 3820 is a dog and then some. That's just at standard clock speeds, when it comes to over clocking the 3820 becomes an even bigger dog vs a SB and/or IB build. It's like entering a John Deere tractor in a NASCAR race.

As far as that socket being around longer ....who cares if their a gamer? That socket is meant for workstation builds, not gaming. I mean you went over budget on that build and I can still post a 1155 build for a lot cheaper than will mop the floor with that build you posted.

It's like this. You spend more money for a slower gaming build in the hopes that the socket will be around longer? LOL? What would be the advantage to that?

If I purchase a car for $30,000 that tops out at 150 mph, uses a crap load of gas and runs hotter than a fire cracker, vs a car for $25,000 that tops out at 160 mph, uses less gas and runs cooler...well what car would you purchase?


Well I've seen posts where I've suggested builds based around the 3930K with the next 5 - 10 posts saying its' overkill for gaming rigs, etc. Where it's not overkill is if you're gaming and then using say CS5 and 3-D CAD and rendering applications. I know the software is always one - two generations behind the hardware - it's Moore's law.

I try to cater builds around a given budget - if the budget doesn't allow for the highest end hardware - say sub-$1K then I don't include it, but if you're spending $1500 or more on a PC why not get the most amount of hardware you can get for the money?

Although I have to say as far as Ivy goes now that we're starting to see motherboards, I've been keeping my eye on EVGA's Z77 FTW board and I'm really liking what I'm seeing - it's a bit more power hungry than a lot of boards I'm seeing but barring something unforeseen I think I've found my next motherboard.
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April 14, 2012 1:05:50 AM

Yeah was looking at the board ASRock Z77 its very nice and I like how it looks also.
as for the Mushkin ssd if I already own a 120g ssd its still not gonna be better (and a bit vcheaper)to just get 1 more and use them in raid 0 ? or better to just go all out for a larger ssd.

I should also say I do own a coolmaster Haf X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I could use I just didn't want to gut this one all the way but might be a smarter choice if it'll allow me to put fund elsewhere in my build.

as for liquid cooling I've built a few amd mid range gaming pc's but never had intel before so this will be a first and I wanted to really do something I've never done before so i figured learning how to do a liquid cooling system would be fun but I'm completely clueless about them.
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April 14, 2012 1:12:57 AM

oneshoe said:
Yeah was looking at the board ASRock Z77 its very nice and I like how it looks also.
as for the Mushkin ssd if I already own a 120g ssd its still not gonna be better (and a bit vcheaper)to just get 1 more and use them in raid 0 ? or better to just go all out for a larger ssd.

I should also say I do own a coolmaster Haf X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I could use I just didn't want to gut this one all the way but might be a smarter choice if it'll allow me to put fund elsewhere in my build.


What are the specs on this system? You could just put a new motherboard, CPU, RAM, and GPU in and reuse all your existing components.
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April 14, 2012 1:26:46 AM

Its an amd phenom2 x4 965
the pwr supply is a rosewill xtreme 950watt that came with my case in a newegg special its 80 plus certified but doesn't say bronze silver or gold
my ram is G skill eco 4g 1600mhz my gpu is a 6870 saphire
my disc drives are all 6 or 7 years old maybe older. I have the 1 120gssd drive(which i did plan on using) and an old 500gb drive i was forced to use as storage because it gave me to many errors to often as my main drive why I got the new ssd.
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April 14, 2012 1:55:12 AM

oneshoe said:
Yeah was looking at the board ASRock Z77 its very nice and I like how it looks also.
as for the Mushkin ssd if I already own a 120g ssd its still not gonna be better (and a bit vcheaper)to just get 1 more and use them in raid 0 ? or better to just go all out for a larger ssd.

I should also say I do own a coolmaster Haf X http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I could use I just didn't want to gut this one all the way but might be a smarter choice if it'll allow me to put fund elsewhere in my build.

as for liquid cooling I've built a few amd mid range gaming pc's but never had intel before so this will be a first and I wanted to really do something I've never done before so i figured learning how to do a liquid cooling system would be fun but I'm completely clueless about them.

Wait for Ivy Bridge at the end of this month (April 29th) and you should be able to easily hit 5.0Ghz on air while still running cool as ice. Sandy Bridge is heaven to o/c, and these new 22nm Ivy Bridge cpu's should be even better.
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April 14, 2012 2:46:21 AM

azeem40 said:
Not having a good day today, so I may have said that out of frustration.

It's Friday the 13th... today's an acceptable day to have this happen :) 

Anyway, yeah, wait for Ivy Bridge, maybe a Z77 board is fine (I don't think mobo is as important as GPU... if he's single monitor, though, he doesn't need two GTXs).
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April 25, 2012 1:16:23 AM

Now I can't decide if I want the nzxt 810 switch or the cosmos 2. Both will serve my needs I think the cosmos looks much better however the 810 switch is much cheaper.. I've also decided on going with the 3570k ivy bridge since this will be a gaming rig I won't have much use for hyper threading since very few games support more than 4 cores anyways.
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April 25, 2012 5:47:11 AM

oneshoe said:
Now I can't decide if I want the nzxt 810 switch or the cosmos 2. Both will serve my needs I think the cosmos looks much better however the 810 switch is much cheaper.. I've also decided on going with the 3570k ivy bridge since this will be a gaming rig I won't have much use for hyper threading since very few games support more than 4 cores anyways.


spending $300+ on a case is a wastage IMO!switch is good but it looks like a lot of plastic to me.silverstone makes some really high end cases.for $150~,raven rv02 is a great case-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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April 25, 2012 6:18:39 AM

Lol, I was agreeing with you. :p 
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April 25, 2012 6:27:32 AM

Let me rephrase. "At a $2000 budget, a $300 case is indeed a waste."
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April 25, 2012 6:31:59 AM

^that's absolutely correct IMO unless you want to sacrifice other parts for a fancy case :lol: 
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April 25, 2012 6:33:27 AM

Wait, I took a look at his components, and they are the best they can be. However, he could still use the $ on a monitor. :p 
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April 25, 2012 6:39:25 AM

not the best they can be!i can suggest some alternatives and i am sure he will save enough to do 680 SLi in near future :p 
or a x79 system is also a good choice(IB sucks :/ ).
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April 25, 2012 6:42:55 AM

An x79 system is not meant for gaming. It is for harcore encoding and server work.
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April 25, 2012 6:45:17 AM

azeem40 said:
An x79 system is not meant for gaming. It is for harcore encoding and server work.

i agree but IB isn't a good upgrade and i think lga2011 will receive an update not 1155.
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April 25, 2012 6:47:00 AM

LGA 2011 has already gotten SB-E and should get IB-E. After IB-E, LGA 2011, too, will be at the end of its life before Intel replaces it. For now, the best bang for buck is SB, until Haswell releases.
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April 25, 2012 6:57:38 AM

yes i agree for SB,best bang got the buck.
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April 25, 2012 10:07:58 PM

azeem40 said:
Especially at a $2000 budget. :p 


My limit is around 3k or a bit higher now I've added a water cooling kit to my list that i'll order soon as I decide on the case. The SilverStone RAVEN RV02 is a nice case but most of the big reviewers say its 1 awesome air cooling case but if your going full on water cooling avoid it. I have plans for a 360mm rad on top and a 240mm rad on bottom.

I've got a nice 24inch monitor I got during last years black Friday sale on Newegg. As for sli 680's that will be something much later on in the year for me as its not as important to me right now.
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April 26, 2012 4:58:50 AM

if you want to do watercooling then nzxt switch is a great case-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


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May 3, 2012 12:10:28 AM

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