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February 5, 2012 7:53:09 PM

I am looking at graphic cards....Which to choose. Amd Or Nvidia. Mainly gonna be used for gaming Am looking for single card performance.
Now the decision AMD hd6970 on Nvidia gtx 560 ti 448 core or Gtx 570?
Any suggestions?

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February 5, 2012 8:13:12 PM

The most bang for your buck will be if you were to get a 6950 reference card and reflash the bios to a 6970 to unlock all of the shader cores. I did this when the 6900 series first came out a year ago and mine works great but im not sure is amd has fixed this problem.....
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February 5, 2012 8:33:08 PM

AMD fixed the flashing vulnerability in all new 6950s. Instead of disabling shaders etc. in the BIOS they are now destroyed, making it impossible.

What games and what resolution do you want to play?
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February 5, 2012 9:03:21 PM

blazorthon said:
AMD fixed the flashing vulnerability in all new 6950s. Instead of disabling shaders etc. in the BIOS they are now destroyed, making it impossible.

What games and what resolution do you want to play?


Just want to be able to play whatever I want in HD
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February 5, 2012 9:26:46 PM

What resolution? Entire system specs?
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February 5, 2012 10:13:15 PM

The 6950 or regular GTX 560 TI should play everything at 1080p HD at maximum settings with high frame rates right now.

The 560 TI 448 core is a little slower than the 6970 which is about equal with the GTX 570. All three would offer better future proofing, but would give you similar performance with current games @1080p.
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February 5, 2012 10:36:39 PM

amuffin said:
What resolution? Entire system specs?


Haven't built it yet but will probably be I7 2700k, Asus p8z68 v pro gen 3, 16 gb ddr3 1600, 120 gb ssd as boot drive, 1TB 7200 rpm sata 6 hdd, coolermaster haf 922 case
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February 5, 2012 10:41:21 PM

i7-2700K won't do much better than the i5-2500K in gaming, indistinguishably better at best. The main advantage of the i7s is hyper-threading. Games often don't use more than one or two threads so the difference between 4 physical threads and 4 physical plus 4 logical is non-existent.
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February 5, 2012 10:41:48 PM

I would get the 2600k over the 2700k.
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February 5, 2012 10:49:43 PM

amuffin said:
I would get the 2600k over the 2700k.


That just depends on how much you are willing to spend. The 2700K is a little more expensive, but it's a little faster than the 2600K.

Either way, the i5-2500K is only negligibly slower in games, ie you will not be able to tell the difference, maybe not even in benchmarks.
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February 5, 2012 11:13:25 PM

blazorthon said:
That just depends on how much you are willing to spend. The 2700K is a little more expensive, but it's a little faster than the 2600K.

Either way, the i5-2500K is only negligibly slower in games, ie you will not be able to tell the difference, maybe not even in benchmarks.

100mhz LOL same cpu just clocked 100mhz higher. Just overclock by 100mhz and you will have the same performance.
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February 5, 2012 11:16:24 PM

amuffin said:
100mhz LOL same cpu just clocked 100mhz higher. Just overclock by 100mhz and you will have the same performance.


It's not the same, it's a higher binned version. The 2700K will be slightly more stable and run a little cooler than the 2600K at the same clock rate and will run at somewhat higher clock rates.
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February 6, 2012 12:06:49 AM

blazorthon said:
It's not the same, it's a higher binned version. The 2700K will be slightly more stable and run a little cooler than the 2600K at the same clock rate and will run at somewhat higher clock rates.


Yes, you're right but it is not needed to spend more $ for 100Mhz... Intel CPU's are somewhat good overclockers, so they don't get stability issues unless you overclock beyond 5GHz...

I see a lot of computers being sold with i7-2500K oc'd at 4.7Ghz.
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February 6, 2012 12:13:24 AM

bloc97 said:
Yes, you're right but it is not needed to spend more $ for 100Mhz... Intel CPU's are somewhat good overclockers, so they don't get stability issues unless you overclock beyond 5GHz...

I see a lot of computers being sold with i7-2500K oc'd at 4.7Ghz.


Bingo. The 2700K is for hitting 5GHz and beyond, although not too far beyond. The improvements weren't really worth the somewhat heavy increase in price at first, but the 2700K has dropped in price more than the 2600K has since it's launch so it's not too much more for it's performance.
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February 6, 2012 12:23:05 AM

The 6870 is the best bang for the buck followed by the factory OC'd 560 Ti.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 170.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.39 - $ 0.49
$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 205.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.45 - $ 0.52
$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50
$ 340.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.65 - $ 0.78
$ 500.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.81 - $ 1.05



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February 6, 2012 12:53:46 AM

JackNaylorPE said:
The 6870 is the best bang for the buck followed by the factory OC'd 560 Ti.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 170.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.39 - $ 0.49
$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 205.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.45 - $ 0.52
$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50
$ 340.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.65 - $ 0.78
$ 500.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.81 - $ 1.05


That's pretty nifty:) 

Shows how price increases faster than performance does as you go further into the high-end cards, although I have to say that some of those prices aren't recent enough.
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February 6, 2012 2:11:56 AM

I would say search for benchmarks on the games you plan on playing and see what cards perform best and make your decision off of that.
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