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April 13, 2012 9:52:53 PM

Hey Guys,

I recently decided to build my own system. I'm a long time console gamer and I see the error of my ways, and am converting to PC. I know a little bit about computers, but I think I'm going to need a lot of help. I came up with a build and would love to know what you guys think. The price point on the system is somewhat flexible. Here's what I came up with:

CPU:Core i7 3820 LGA 2011

MB: ASRock Fatal1ty x79 Professional Socket 2011 X79 ATX Intel Motherboard

RAM:GeIL Enhance CORSA 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model GEC316GB1600C9QC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: Zotac ZT-50303-10M GTX 560 Ti Overclocked 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card

HDD: Caviar Black 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive WD1002FAEX - OEM

Case: ATCS 840 Full Tower Computer Case

PSU:o CZ Tech ZX Series 850 Watt ATX Modular Power Supply

That is what I have come up with so far. My main concerns are the RAM and the power supply. My problem with the RAM was that I've never heard of this brand. Reviews were good though. Any advice or suggestions there? Ive heard to never skimp on the power supply and was wondering if the one I chose would be adequate. I wanted a faster hd but didn't really want to shell out the money right now. I want to do an ssd with the caviar black in the near future. I also haven't decided on CPU cooling yet. I was thinking the Corsair H80 as I do want to be able to overclock once I get familiar with the build. Thanks for any help guys!

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April 13, 2012 10:00:49 PM

socket 2011 processors give no extra gaming performance over socket 1155 .

You will get better gaming performance by spending more on graphics cards and less on the processor
The 560 ti is obsolete

Games are 32 bit programs and cant use more than about 3 gig of RAM even when you use a 64 bit OS . 2 x4 gig of RAM more than covers gaming performance
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April 13, 2012 10:56:05 PM

Outlander_04 said:
socket 2011 processors give no extra gaming performance over socket 1155 .

You will get better gaming performance by spending more on graphics cards and less on the processor
The 560 ti is obsolete

Games are 32 bit programs and cant use more than about 3 gig of RAM even when you use a 64 bit OS . 2 x4 gig of RAM more than covers gaming performance


^ Outlander absolutely has the right of it. Those 2011 socket processors are meant for heavy duty work station type stuff. In fact, the i7s on the 1155 sockets are still overkill for gaming. The sweet spot right now is the i5-2500k.

It would really help if you gave us a budget to work with, but since you were looking at those 2011 socket i7s I'll assume money isn't very tight lol. Here's a rough build to consider that we can tweak according to your price and preferences...


Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6P1x
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6P1x/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6P1x/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
-As mentioned before, the top of the line processor as far as gaming is concerned. You definitely won't be needing or even wanting more than this. It's a beast.

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.44 @ NCIX US)
-A good quality air cooler in case you ever want to consider overclocking. If not, its still a good buy because it keeps your processor cooler.

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
-One of the new Z77 motherboards. Lots of cool features built right in and good quality.

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
-Great brand for RAM. Right now you won't need mre than 8, but i you ever decide down the line that you want more you can buy another set of these.

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($95.99 @ SuperBiiz)
-For data storage. I hope 500Gb is enough, but if not we can get you a 750 or 1Tb.

Hard Drive: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($147.99 @ Newegg)
-A SSD for your OS and most used files. SSDs are BLAZING fast, very nice for general computing!

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($469.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($469.99 @ Newegg)
-Two of these in crossfire will obliterate virtually any game you throw at them. You might want to wait around until the 680 gets into better production, but these are still great buys.

Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.98 @ Newegg)
-Good quality case, but its more to personal taste than anything.

Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($145.98 @ Newegg
-Good company, good power rating, should be more than enough wattage.

Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($79.98 @ Newegg)
-Figure why not get a blu ray? lol

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
-And your OS
Total: $2037.30
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated 2012-04-13 18:54 EDT-0400)
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April 13, 2012 11:00:36 PM

What do you do when LGA 1155 is obsolete? Spend $ on a CPU twice?
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April 13, 2012 11:03:31 PM

azeem40 said:
What do you do when LGA 1155 is obsolete? Spend $ on a CPU twice?

By that logic, I must not buy a computer ever because there will always be something cooler in one year.
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April 13, 2012 11:05:18 PM

I am saying LGA 2011 is fine if you have a large enough budget.
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April 13, 2012 11:11:23 PM

Thanks for the advice. I am currently revising my build looking at the i5 2500k. I wanted to keep my build around 1200. I dont want to go much higher than that. So you would think that 650 would be enough for the system you detailed above Grand Admiral? I have been having a hard time figuring out how much wattage i might need.
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April 13, 2012 11:14:08 PM

azeem40 said:
I am saying LGA 2011 is fine if you have a large enough budget.

Except it's overkill, going to last the same amount of time as LGA 1155, and costs exactly 4.3 metric fuckloads of money to buy.
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April 13, 2012 11:18:08 PM

650w is fine for 1 7970. For two, you will need 850W.
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April 13, 2012 11:20:36 PM

This is longer an issue of whether it is overkill. The fact is that LGA 2011 will be around for a lot longer than LGA 1155.
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April 13, 2012 11:22:25 PM

azeem40 said:
This is longer an issue of whether it is overkill. The fact is that LGA 2011 will be around for a lot longer than LGA 1155.

>Will only support up to Ivy Bridge-E
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April 13, 2012 11:24:17 PM

Sometimes there is no reasoning in the world. *sigh*
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April 13, 2012 11:25:22 PM

azeem40 said:
Sometimes there is no reasoning in the world. *sigh*

Why pay more money for extra power you will not need?
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April 13, 2012 11:26:08 PM

Can you predict the future? No, so assuming extra power isn't going to be needed is a folly.
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April 13, 2012 11:27:10 PM

azeem40 said:
Can you predict the future? No, so assuming extra power isn't going to be needed is a folly.

By the time that so much extra power is needed, there will be newer, cooler and potentially cheaper technology.
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April 13, 2012 11:40:36 PM

You are being unrealistic. Since when is technology that easy to figure out? There is nothing wrong with longevity.
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April 13, 2012 11:42:00 PM

azeem40 said:
You are being unrealistic. Since when is technology that easy to figure out? There is nothing wrong with longevity.

Technology advances at a very rapid rate. Keep in mind that years ago, an Intel Atom would have been state of the art.
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April 13, 2012 11:46:39 PM

Also, Haswell will use LGA 1150
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April 13, 2012 11:56:36 PM

I know it is going to use haswell. I am not cut off from society like outlander thinks.
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April 13, 2012 11:58:30 PM

azeem40 said:
I know it is going to use haswell. I am not cut off from society like outlander thinks.

Let's say that Haswell is the same price for the i5-3570K equivalent.
So that's TWO sweet spot processors for around $225, and using newer technology and more features. In my opinion, it's a good deal.
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April 14, 2012 12:01:34 AM

I never said it was a bad deal. I was just defending my views.
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April 14, 2012 1:54:52 AM

rundaddy12 said:
Thanks for the advice. I am currently revising my build looking at the i5 2500k. I wanted to keep my build around 1200. I dont want to go much higher than that. So you would think that 650 would be enough for the system you detailed above Grand Admiral? I have been having a hard time figuring out how much wattage i might need.


Anyways, for a 1200 dollar budget we're looking at a much more modest build.

Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Pqr
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Pqr/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6Pqr/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.44 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.86 @ Newegg)
-Good motherboard that still retains a lot of the nicer features, like the possibility to crossfire in the future if you needed.

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($95.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
-Not as powerful as the 7950, but this is still a great card. Will play most games on close to Ultra settings.

Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.19 @ Newegg)
-This is a really eat powersupply because it has a platinum power efficiency rating, the highest you can get. Yet its still very affordable and made by one of the most reliable companies.

Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($25.97 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1153.39
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated 2012-04-13 21:46 EDT-0400)

I think this build should take care of you unless you have any other comments or concerns?
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April 14, 2012 2:20:41 AM

azeem40 said:
This is longer an issue of whether it is overkill. The fact is that LGA 2011 will be around for a lot longer than LGA 1155.


On intels update schedule ....about 9 months .

For that you lose gaming performance PER DOLLAR SPENT for the entire life of the computer .
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