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April 14, 2012 7:14:10 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: after 2 – 4 weeks

Budget Range: 1000 USD

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, watching movies, surfing the internet

Parts Not Required: Any peripherals.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: Latvia

Parts Preferences: I’d love to have an intel CPU

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No (The reason is micro-stuttering)

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 or 1920x1200

Additional Comments:

I’ve done some research and these are the parts I’ve chosen to go with:

1) ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2) Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1Ghz (3.4Ghz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I52400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3) ASUS HD7870-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4) CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML8GX3M2A1600C9W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5) SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE – OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6) Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5” Internal Hard Drive –Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

7) COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

8) CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The reason why I consider going for the 570GTX is because that particular model has great factory OC, which means a lot since I won’t OC anything myself.

I am still a newcomer into the pc world, but I do learn fast. Could you please comment on this computer as this is my first build and I’m really afraid if once assembled, this computer won’t function properly. Are all the parts compatible as what should be swapped?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

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April 14, 2012 7:20:47 PM

Newegg doesn't ship to Latvia, please provide a different website.

If Latvia pricing is close to US:

You could do better. Check out my $850 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
With the 7850 you can save some but also easily overclock it to the GTX 580's performance or the 7870. Overclocking is fairly easy, a quick google will find you settings, though it doesn't work for everyone if you find one of a similar card like Sapphire if you bought Sapphire, the settings should be close enough that slight tweaks would fix instability.
April 14, 2012 7:52:52 PM

2568330,2,497688 said:
Newegg doesn't ship to Latvia, please provide a different website.

If Latvia pricing is close to US:

Thanks for the quick reply.

I'm well aware of the fact that newegg doesn't ship to Latvia, as I have never intended to ship anything over the ocean. I listed newegg as the only site just because it serves as a good visual material. The Hardware prices in Latvia are a bit higher, my actual PC budget is 600 LVL which is approximately 1200$, but bearing in mind the fact electronics in Latvia cost more than in the states, the equivalent pc for 1200$, in the US can be bought for just a 1000$, which is the budget I've listed above.

And, what goes to OC, I prefer not to tweak anything as, by doing so, I can save money on the MOBO.
I'll definitely go thru your build and take into account the suggestion to go with the HD 7850 rather than the HD 7870 as the difference in price is rather enormous 100$.

Again, thanks for the rapid reply.
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April 14, 2012 8:10:11 PM

Ahhh sounds solid. Yeah usually newer products are a lot more expensive in other countries.
April 14, 2012 9:08:09 PM

Ok, so I've decided to OC both CPU and GPU after all. In order to do this, I've decided to swap a few components on the basis of the 850$ build at squidoo:

1)The MOBO from the ASRock z68 pro3 gen3 will be changed to ASRock z68 extreme3 gen3:

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2)Swapped the HD 7870 to a HD 7850, costs a hell of a lot less but, once OC'd, delivers the same performance than a stock HD 7870 (based on the review over at Guru3d.com)

ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3) The processor. The 100$ that were saved on the GPU are spent both on the CPU and MOBO. Another question is whether it's worth waiting those 2 weeks until IB is released?

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Still thinking about weather changing the PSU from the TX650 v2 to the OCZ ZS 750w. Could anyone please comment this because right now I'm really considering overclocking and I'm just wondering whether this PSU is up for the job.

Once again, any recommendation is highly valued and I'll definitely look it through and will be taken into account.
April 14, 2012 9:20:38 PM

mInInOwA said:
Ok, so I've decided to OC both CPU and GPU after all. In order to do this, I've decided to swap a few components on the basis of the 850$ build at squidoo:

1)The MOBO from the ASRock z68 pro3 gen3 will be changed to ASRock z68 extreme3 gen3:

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2)Swapped the HD 7870 to a HD 7850, costs a hell of a lot less but, once OC'd, delivers the same performance than a stock HD 7870 (based on the review over at Guru3d.com)

ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5 Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3) The processor. The 100$ that were saved on the GPU are spent both on the CPU and MOBO. Another question is whether it's worth waiting those 2 weeks until IB is released?

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Still thinking about weather changing the PSU from the TX650 v2 to the OCZ ZS 750w. Could anyone please comment this because right now I'm really considering overclocking and I'm just wondering whether this PSU is up for the job.

Once again, any recommendation is highly valued and I'll definitely look it through and will be taken into account.

When you o/c those cards and cpu...I think a 750w psu would be a safer bet. Gives you a bit of headroom. Nice build btw. :) 
April 14, 2012 9:46:00 PM

^+1

OCZ ZS 750 is a nice cheap one. Also OCZ is usually most available in other countries other than US. Antec might be one but I've noticed less countries have Antec as opposed to OCZ.
April 17, 2012 12:36:29 PM


So there have been some updates:

I've decided to change the ram, the new model has higher voltage, however it is cheaper. I'm also interested what voltage RAMs will IB i5 processors support?

RAM
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Swapped the motherboard to a z77 chipset:

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I know that isn't the best time to buy a new computer, so I've decided to postpone everything by a month, until there are some reviews about which is the best mobo for oc and how do the new IB processors interact with different motherboards. As another alternative I'm considering getting the MSI Z77A-GD55

MSI Z77A-GD55 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I've also decided to swap the psu for the OCZ ZS 750w, based on your previous recommendations and the price difference.

OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I also wanted to add that I'll be using an IB processor for my build in the same price range once they have become available.

The question I was really looking forward to finding out is which is considered to be a better manufacturer for overclocking - MSI or ASRock?

April 17, 2012 12:49:31 PM

mInInOwA said:
So there have been some updates:

I've decided to change the ram, the new model has higher voltage, however it is cheaper. I'm also interested what voltage RAMs will IB i5 processors support?

RAM
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Swapped the motherboard to a z77 chipset:

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I know that isn't the best time to buy a new computer, so I've decided to postpone everything by a month, until there are some reviews about which is the best mobo for oc and how do the new IB processors interact with different motherboards. As another alternative I'm considering getting the MSI Z77A-GD55

MSI Z77A-GD55 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I've also decided to swap the psu for the OCZ ZS 750w, based on your previous recommendations and the price difference.

OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I also wanted to add that I'll be using an IB processor for my build in the same price range once they have become available.

The question I was really looking forward to finding out is which is considered to be a better manufacturer for overclocking - MSI or ASRock?



lol 750w is overkill
7850 is very low power all you would need is 600w honestly

Wait untill IB comes out and see if you can get a deal on 2500k SB
I have only heard bad reviews regarding IB so far and the bad overclock heat temps and a small % of increase....
April 17, 2012 3:09:12 PM

Zeauz said:
lol 750w is overkill
7850 is very low power all you would need is 600w honestly

Wait untill IB comes out and see if you can get a deal on 2500k SB
I have only heard bad reviews regarding IB so far and the bad overclock heat temps and a small % of increase....

That OCZ 750w psu is as cheap as any 650w psu. No reason to spend the same amount of money on a 650w psu.
April 17, 2012 3:59:18 PM

try taking a look at this ram. maybe it might catch your interest.

of course you don't need to get the exact same one as that's a 4x4gb but how about those2x4gb ripjaws/ripjawsX/ares??



well here are my experience on ram.


G.SKILL ripjaws and ripjaws X and Ares and Ripjaws Z so far all this time I've never had any problem with them.

Corsair vengeance ram only had 3 problems but those were smoothly fixed by the distro, nothing serious. and can easily be fixed by me but at that time I was just WTF. didn't think much.

Kingston ram only had 2 problems and those were all my fault.

team elite sometimes won't start up system need to push it really hard on the mobo, but overall nothing bad.

crucial only had 1 experience with this on a friends system, it's just normal no problem.

had more to write but no need to write the others as you get the gist.

g.skill is good and so is corsair both of them are good, your choice. imo between the 2 i'll either buy both or just flip a coin.
April 17, 2012 11:44:31 PM

Just look for any ram at 1.5v. Generally ram has gotten a lot more reliable. As for the justification of a 750w, yes. The 750w is overkill but pricing is so close to 650w's you might as well get the extra 100w for a little bit more.

For the board, I'd go with the Asrock Extreme4 Z77 always proven nice. But the GD55 looks like a nice substitute. For the price though the Asrock is a bit better.
April 18, 2012 7:16:29 PM

Firstly, I would really like to thank everyone for the feedback, as it is of great help. The more time I spend thinking about that 750w PSU, the more I realize that it truly is a bargain and I'm definitely gonna hold on to that. The second thing is RAM. I was looking for G.Skill RAMs in Latvia, but they are quite rare and, frankly, the Corsair vengeance series are not only more available, but also match the motherboards color scheme. Anyway, RAM could still change, because I'm using Corsair memory finder to find one that suits my motherboard, but, as it turns out, I cannot choose a z77 chipset motherboard from the SCROLL-DOWN selection list, as none of these new z77 motherboards are listed.

The thing that has been bothering me for a while now is the processor and overclocking as a thing. I'm simply not into it and, even if sometime in the near future decide to OC the CPU after all, it will still only be slight overclocking (the ABSOLUTE maximum would be 4.2 GHz). This makes me wonder whether I should really get the 2500k, when I could just settle with the 2400, which (in Latvia) is 30$ cheaper and the performance hit in games is negligible. Of course this is assuming that the 3rd generation intel processors turn out to be average rather than superb.

What do you guys think. Knowing the fact that most likely I won't overclock nor the CPU nor the GPU, should I still buy the 2500k/3750k?

Thanks in advance! (:
April 18, 2012 9:26:27 PM

If you can go with the Asrock Extreme3 Gen3 Z68. It'll probably be cheap and most available as I'm sure other countries usually overprice new products like the Z77 boards. The Extreme3 would be more than enough w/ basically the same features the Z77 boards offer for less.

Another thing I'd go for the i5-3570K as it is about to release @ the same price. May be different in Latvia. BTW, the chip is as I stated the i5 3570K not the i5 3750K.
April 19, 2012 6:12:09 PM

Quick question - is it OK to place PSU upside-down? Doesn't it decrease fan's life expectancy? I am asking this because I had a pair of 120mm zalman fans, which worked brilliantly, but when they were turned upside down they made a weird noise, as if something was grinding.

P.S. Do gen3 motherboards support IB as well as PCI Express 3.0 or just PCI express 3.0?
April 19, 2012 10:46:01 PM

I would have the fan face upwards on the PSU as you have the PSU mounted on the bottom correct?

And Gen3 boards support PCI 3.0 but Z68 chipset supports IB.
April 20, 2012 4:22:07 PM

aznshinobi said:
I would have the fan face upwards on the PSU as you have the PSU mounted on the bottom correct?

And Gen3 boards support PCI 3.0 but Z68 chipset supports IB.


Yup, the PSU is mounted on the bottom in HAF 912, but is has this grid underneath it, which is supposed to allow the PSU to draw the air from the bottom of the case. The thing is that I'll be buying 4 additional cooler master 120mm fans, thus using all this case has to offer (additonal 16$ for the 4 fans). 3 Fans will be blowing air in and 3 - blowing the air out of the case. I read somewhere, that one of the many ways how to decrease video card temperature is by making sure that the air pressure in the case is higher than in the room. With 3 fans blowing in and 3 out - the air pressure difference would be canceled out, at least it won't be negative. However, if the PSU is mounted the right way, it draws air from the case, which results with a lower air pressure in the case compared to the room. On the other side, the PSU draws the hot air from the GPU and exhausts it out of the case.

I guess that I simply want to hear the expert opinion on this and, hopefully, find out whether that air pressure thing is true or are they just empty words.

Regarding the motherboard.(ASRock z68 extreme3 gen3)
Wow, I didn't know that z68 supported Ivy Bridge processors. The only reason why I wanted to go with the z77 is because I thought that they were the only motherboards that supported IB processors. Now that I' aware of this, I think that I'll definitely stick with z68 chipset and, furthermore, even this specific motherboard.
April 20, 2012 6:55:57 PM

mInInOwA said:
Yup, the PSU is mounted on the bottom in HAF 912, but is has this grid underneath it, which is supposed to allow the PSU to draw the air from the bottom of the case. The thing is that I'll be buying 4 additional cooler master 120mm fans, thus using all this case has to offer (additonal 16$ for the 4 fans). 3 Fans will be blowing air in and 3 - blowing the air out of the case. I read somewhere, that one of the many ways how to decrease video card temperature is by making sure that the air pressure in the case is higher than in the room. With 3 fans blowing in and 3 out - the air pressure difference would be canceled out, at least it won't be negative. However, if the PSU is mounted the right way, it draws air from the case, which results with a lower air pressure in the case compared to the room. On the other side, the PSU draws the hot air from the GPU and exhausts it out of the case.

I guess that I simply want to hear the expert opinion on this and, hopefully, find out whether that air pressure thing is true or are they just empty words.

Regarding the motherboard.(ASRock z68 extreme3 gen3)
Wow, I didn't know that z68 supported Ivy Bridge processors. The only reason why I wanted to go with the z77 is because I thought that they were the only motherboards that supported IB processors. Now that I' aware of this, I think that I'll definitely stick with z68 chipset and, furthermore, even this specific motherboard.

If you plan on going with an Ivy Bridge cpu I would strongly suggest the Asrock Z77 extreme4 motherboard. That way you get all the benefits of that IB cpu.
April 21, 2012 3:59:15 AM

I honestly don't really see the huge difference with Z77 vs Z68. I looked at the benches and was unimpressed. Seeing that the Z68 Gen3 Extreme3 was so much cheaper than the closest Z77 that could run 8x/8x I think the Z68 is a solid route. Benches were even that different so the extra 20 saved could be the difference from a 560 Ti to a 7850.

I think both are fine but I usually just mount the psu with the fan facing upwards. I also have the holes you're referring to but I mounted with the fan facing up. No issues and temps are pretty much solid.
April 25, 2012 7:19:46 PM

Haven't posted anything for a while, but it doesn't mean I've forgot about my build, on the contrary - can't wait to get my hands on the parts once I've order everything.

A lot of time has been spent looking for the best video card since this rig will mainly be used for gaming. I'm really hoping that the nvdia 600 graphics cards will be spectacular and price wise similiar to AMD cards, as at this moment I'm thinking about getting the Gigabyte HD 7870 OC. The reasons are a) comes preoverclocked to 1100 Mhz b) the cooler's performance is simply astonishing c) even though it is more expensive than the 7850, I still like it better, mainly because of low temps and 3 year warranty.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm also considering getting a modular power supply unit since all the parts are going to be fitted in a mid-tower, where there isn't very much space for a big sack of unused cables. (Actually, the main reason is because I am a very pedantic person and couldn't live with myself knowing that some cables in my case aren't needed and are just simply taking up room). And, from what I've read, The OCZ ZT Series 750w PSU is a solid one. It had a higher overall rating at techpowerup than the ZS 750 (8.6 and 8.1) and has 4 6+2 pin PCI Express connectors, which will allow hooking up a second GPU after a year or two.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Could anyone please comment on this PSU. Is it better than the ZS 750 or just the opposite?

Finally I was thinking of changing was the motherboard. I really liked the ASRock extreme3 gen3 motherboard, but after reading a lot of customer reviews at newegg and finding out that a large portion of them were dead on arrival, I started having second thoughts. Luckily, I've found an alternative, which is a z77 chipset motherboard at the same price. (At least in Latvia they cost exactly the same).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Is this motherboard better than the z68 extreme3 gen3 and which one would you get if they both cost exactly the same?

The rest that is written here isn't actually relevant to the build, so you can just skip it :) 

That's pretty much everything. I must also say that I'm still thinking about whether or not I should overclock because of the warranty services in Latvia, lets just say that people will do anything if in the end they shouldn't have to replace your malfunctioning product. My dad was lucky enough to get his 8800GTX replaced after it died. The other thing is that since I am really tidy and pedantic I am constantly keeping an eye on temperatures and hate it when they exceed 80 degrees Celsius for the CPU and 70 for the GPU.
April 25, 2012 7:42:51 PM

That Gigabyte card is a good one. It runs cool and with a slight boost it will out perform the stock 7950. That OCZ psu you linked is modular compared the the ZS which is not. And that Gigabyte board is a good one from the reviews. The comparable Asrock board would be the Asrock Z77 extreme4.
April 25, 2012 11:08:34 PM

Sounds solid the choices made look good. Card, PSU (Modular), and the motherboard looks good. The Z77 Extreme4 would be a nice substitute for a slightly lower price. Not saying the Gigabyte is bad though.

April 26, 2012 1:40:19 PM

aznshinobi said:
Sounds solid the choices made look good. Card, PSU (Modular), and the motherboard looks good. The Z77 Extreme4 would be a nice substitute for a slightly lower price. Not saying the Gigabyte is bad though.


In fact i was looking into the ASRock z77 extreme4, until I encountered a rather weird phenomena. The ATX version costs 16$ more than the gigabyte board and even though the mATX is a bit cheaper than the aforementioned Gigabyte board, I simply don't want a mATX MOBO in my build.

P.S. I just don't understand Latvian pricing :D 

May 18, 2012 3:37:01 PM

Okay, a lot has changed in the last month and it seems that I'll be building this pc in 2 weeks time. The main reason is that I've finally got the cash to buy all the components.
Firstly, I've decided not to overclock anything. That is because of the lack of honest stores like Newegg. Let's just say that in Latvia consumer rights aren't as protected as they are in the states, which in my case means, that if after a year my CPU dies, chances are the warranty won't cover anything. I must admit that at some level, I'm even worried whether the store replaces any parts that are DOA.

Anyway, the fact that I won't be overclocking lets me save a few dollars on the CPU, as I won't need the K model. From what I make, the i5-3450 would be perfect for me as it offers higher value for money compared to the i5-3550 and i5-3570.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The main difference is the GPU, since this PC will be used mainly for gaming (like 90% of the time), then having a kick-ass video card is my primary goal. I’ve been eyeballing the GTX 680, since the day it was released, but, unfortunately, it was way over my budget. However, the new GTX 670 might just be the GPU for me. Not only is it faster than my alternative (HD 7870 OC), but its nVidia, which simply puts a smile on my face. I don’t have anything against AMD; it’s just that for the last 5 and half years I’ve been using my 8800 GTX, which was absolutely superb. I will admit, this is my second card, the first one died after a year or so, but it was replaced with a new one. However, the best thing is that I’m used to nVidia - I know where everything is located in the control panel and not even once, I haven’t had any problems with the drivers or games crashing because of the card. I simply love it and because I’m a conservative person, switching to AMD could only be caused by a noticeable price difference.
So, for the GPU, I’m considering of getting the MSI GeForce GTX 670 OC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Since the GPU is slightly more expensive than the planned, the costs have to be cut down on a different component, and in my case, it’s the case. :D 
I’m thinking of getting the cooler master elite 430 and buying additional 5 blue LED fans, thus making sure all of my components stay cool and increase their lifespan. I know, I know, there are no cable management possibilities in this particular case, but IMO, the looks of the case outweighs the cons. Furthermore, since I’m considering of getting a modular PSU, the wires wouldn’t be a problem either. (In Latvia, the elite 430 is approximately 2 times less expensive than the HAF 912 – 40 dollars cheaper, which is almost the difference between the HD7870 and GTX 670).
Case – Cooler Master Elite 430 Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What goes to the power supply unit, I’ve set my sight for the OCZ ZT 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
However, the question is, do I need all that power if I’ll only be powering a stock i5 (77W) and a single GTX 670 (if I remember correctly, the TDP was under 250W). Wouldn’t a 500w PSU be sufficient and friendlier for my wallet? The reason I’m asking you this is because the two things, which I have no knowledge about, are PSUs and Motherboards.

Finally, the motherboard has to be chosen. The cost cutting has affected the budget I can spend on the Motherboard. I suppose that the GA-Z77-D3H is a nice board and, from what I’ve seem, some 1000$ gaming pc builds suggest getting this particular MoBo. Are there any more differences from my planned board, the X version (GA-Z77X-D3H), besides the 2 pcie x16 ports and will it make a difference, if nor the CPU, nor GPU will be overclocked.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Please, suggest a good and a cheap motherboard, just keep in mind that I won’t OC.
And, what should I do with the PSU, do I really need all that power and could someone please suggest a decent modular PSU, which is cheaper than the ZT 750.

May 19, 2012 4:45:50 AM

^+1

It won't allow you to SLI though, the B75 board. But it is cheaper and fine honestly since the GTX 670 is already such a good card.

As for the ZT 750w, not needed. A 500w is more than enough.
May 19, 2012 10:05:13 AM

Thanks for the quick replies :) 

Since I'll be ordering all the parts from one store, then the variety of goods are limited. It's really unfortunate, because the only B75 motherboard in that particular store is the GA-B75M-D3V. Yesterday I read that it supposed to be a motherboard for an office PC, however, after reading the customer reviews in Newegg, I learned that someone is using this motherboard paired with an 2500 and HD 6870 and doesn't have any problems at all. So, will this motherboard handle the GTX 670 combined with the i5 3450?

Regarding the B75 motherboards - is the GA-B75M-D3V any good?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


It's a similar story with the PSU - the products available to me, are very limited and I've narrowed down my choice to these:

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Gaming Series GS500 500W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified High Performance Gaming Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAE3-US 650W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Their arranged by their price, starting with the cheapest at the top and with the relatively expensive ones at the bottom.

Which one would you recommend? :) 
May 19, 2012 4:51:29 PM

mInInOwA said:
Thanks for the quick replies :) 

Since I'll be ordering all the parts from one store, then the variety of goods are limited. It's really unfortunate, because the only B75 motherboard in that particular store is the GA-B75M-D3V. Yesterday I read that it supposed to be a motherboard for an office PC, however, after reading the customer reviews in Newegg, I learned that someone is using this motherboard paired with an 2500 and HD 6870 and doesn't have any problems at all. So, will this motherboard handle the GTX 670 combined with the i5 3450?

Regarding the B75 motherboards - is the GA-B75M-D3V any good?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


It's a similar story with the PSU - the products available to me, are very limited and I've narrowed down my choice to these:

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Gaming Series GS500 500W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified High Performance Gaming Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAE3-US 650W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Their arranged by their price, starting with the cheapest at the top and with the relatively expensive ones at the bottom.

Which one would you recommend? :) 

The Corsair CX500 should do fine. I would stay away from the Cooler Master psu.
May 19, 2012 7:03:32 PM

Looks solid,
And I think Why_Me should specify. Stay away from OLDER cooler master PSU's. The Silent Pro's and the newer edits of the Silent Pros are amazing.
May 19, 2012 8:06:58 PM

He said "the cooler master psu", which means the one that was listed. :p 
May 19, 2012 8:11:41 PM

Ahhh, didn't catch that. TY.
May 20, 2012 12:27:34 AM

Thank you for your recommendations and replies, as now i think i know which power supply unit to buy - Corsair CX500. My choice is based both on the impressive performance per price ratio and your recommendations.

Nevertheless, the preferred motherboard hasn't yet been specified. At first I had set my sights for the GA-Z77X-D3H, then when I read some complaints about the warranty, I decided not to overclock and was considering getting the GA-Z77-D3H. However, I was recommended a B75 motherboard, which was great, because it was another way how to save costs. Now, though, I don't know which one to get. One thing is certain - I obviously don't want to spend almost a 100$ on the top of the line ASUS B75 board. So, when it comes to the motherboard I've narrowed my choices down to the following:

GA-B75M-D3V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or

ASRock B75 PRO3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I, personally, prefer the ASrock board over the Gigabyte because of the 3 SATA 6 Gb/s (gigabyte board supports a single 6 Gb/s SATA drive), ATX form factor (the gigabyte is micro ATX) and the 4 memory module supports, whereas the gigabyte board supports only 2. However, is the difference worth 18$, because that is the rice difference in Latvia.

Witch board would you recommend?
May 20, 2012 1:24:57 AM

SATA III ports shouldn't matter as long as it has one for the SSD, but yes, it is a better choice for the other reasons, bar the mATX. mATX is worth it as long as you are positive the extra features won't be utilized by you.
May 20, 2012 2:57:45 AM

Go with the Pro3. It's mainly just preference when it comes to such close pricing. The Asrock in the end though since ATX is easier to work with.
May 20, 2012 3:18:11 AM

Honestly, since I just found out I won't be SLIng/CFing, I should have gotten a Pro3 Gen3 and an mATX at that. I don't think I'll be using the extra ATX features.
May 21, 2012 2:10:01 PM

After a fair bit of thinking, I've decided not to go cheap on the motherboard and go with the ASrock B75 Pro3 (ATX version) instead of the GA-B75M-D3V. At this moment, the only thing that could still change, is the video card, which, will be known tomorrow, when my budget will be precised. At this moment, I'm just really hoping that I'll have enough for the GTX 670 OC.

My soon-to-be gaming PC:

ASRock B75 PRO3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-3450
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI GeForce GTX 670 OC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler Master Elite 430
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair CX500 V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That's pretty much it, if there is anything you would change, please, recommend something else. I will look into every proposal, because I really don't want to go wrong with this build. Also, will all the components work together properly from the beginning or I'll have to manually update anything?

Anyway, you guys have been of great help and, seriously, I don't know what I would have bought in the end if it wasn't for you.
Thanks (:

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