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April 15, 2012 1:44:10 AM

Hello, I'm going to build my own computer, and I've never done this before and I'm completely new at this kind of stuff, but I want to learn how to build computers. So, the PC I'm using right now sucks and I need a new one so I could play games like Skyrim, Minecraft, Battlefield, and much more. The only thing I really do besides gaming is mess around on the internet using things like Facebook or YouTube. I don't really render or edit any videos. So let's start and I need you guys to help me choose the right parts. I've researched a little, but I'm going to need more help. I don't want my build to cost too much, I don't want the price too much over $1,000. I'm going to use Newegg.com which I heard is a really good site for this. I plan to buy this before May ends. I want to overclock the processor, graphics card, and the motherboard if it is overclockable (somebody told me motherboards are overclockable). I live in Texas, United States. (PLEASE TAKE SOME TIME TO READ EVERYTHING AND HELP ME, IT'D BE MUCH APPRECIATED.)

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K (I think this processor will do me good since I've researched and the i7's don't do much for GAMING. So to me, it's not worth the extra $100. Also should I wait for the i5-3570K to come out??) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: XFX FX-785A-CNBC Radeon HD 7850 2GB (This one seems very good, high speed, not overpriced, good reviews. I plan to Crossfire these in the future, so I'll need a sufficient power supply.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case (This one seems very nice, I want to have a case that'll keep all my stuff cool with the fan and spaciousness. I also want to upgrade in the future and this full tower case will do the job very well.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) (Heard GREAT reviews about these things, I won't need to upgrade for years since most games don't really need more than 4GB, and they're really cheap.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HSF: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (I heard that these were better than the other Hyper model thingies.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OPTICAL DRIVE: Asus 24x DVD Burner (I don't need blu-ray or anything fancy, but is this even what I need for my computer or is it something else?) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0GB/s Bare Drive (This thing says bare drive, will I need to purchase additional things to make this function correctly? I need at least 1TB to store games, programs, applications, music, and derp.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO: Undecided. I have no idea what I want to get. Give me some suggestions, preferably the new Z77 motherboards so this thing will last longer and should I wait for the i5-3570K to come out or should I just stick with the i5-2500k?

PSU: Also undecided. How much PSU would I need for this? And remember, I said that I plan on Crossfiring the Radeon HD 7850. And the case itself seems to take up a lot of power. I don't really know anything about the amount of power supply I need, I just need enough so I could Crossfire and then maybe buy a newer card in the future and Crossfire THAT card. I'm sure the newer cards won't take as much power, because the GeForce GTX 680 didn't take up as much power and people would think it would.
April 15, 2012 1:58:12 AM

This is looking pretty nice.

You don't need more PSU than a good 650W model, like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The 7850 uses a remarkably small amount of power.

The case should go purely by stylistic preference. Almost any model over $50 will work just fine. Check with us before you make the purchase, but go trawl Newegg and see what catches your eye.

Drop those RAM sticks. Their giant heatsinks are useless and will do nothing but, possibly, block your CPU cooler. You don't have one of those on here, by the way: go for the Hyper 212 EVO. For the RAM, just about anything will work. These are plenty nice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and they come in orange, too.

Z77 won't really give you anything Z68 can't. Integrated USB 3.0 isn't a big deal. You might as well get the ASRock Z68 Extreme3. It's remarkably cheap and will work with Ivy Bridge when you decide, eventually, to upgrade.


@below: yes, please clarify your budget. You should basically put everything together but the PSU and GPU and then get the best single GPU you can afford with a PSU that can handle future SLI/Xfire.
April 15, 2012 1:58:33 AM

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PSU: Also undecided. How much PSU would I need for this? And remember, I said that I plan on Crossfiring the Radeon HD 7850. And the case itself seems to take up a lot of power. I don't really know anything about the amount of power supply I need, I just need enough so I could Crossfire and then maybe buy a newer card in the future and Crossfire THAT card. I'm sure the newer cards won't take as much power, because the GeForce GTX 680 didn't take up as much power and people would think it would.


Actually not really because the 78XX is far more energy efficient than previous generations - the days of 1K+ PSUs are coming to an end.

Instead of going with 2 x 7850 - you should go 1 x 7970 or 1 x 680 since those are the best of the best right now and it's always better to have a single strong GPU solution than two weaker ones.

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MOBO: Undecided. I have no idea what I want to get. Give me some suggestions, preferably the new Z77 motherboards so this thing will last longer and should I wait for the i5-3570K to come out or should I just stick with the i5-2500k?


I have to say the higher-end Z77s are sweet, I'm really liking what I'm seeing with a lot of these boards. The 3570 is *SUPPOSEDLY* out in two weeks - hopefully the reports are accurate.

With the budget - is that $1500 with everything or is that $1000 on PC and $500 on monitor / OS / peripherals? Because the two are drastically different.

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April 15, 2012 2:04:08 AM

g-unit1111 said:
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PSU: Also undecided. How much PSU would I need for this? And remember, I said that I plan on Crossfiring the Radeon HD 7850. And the case itself seems to take up a lot of power. I don't really know anything about the amount of power supply I need, I just need enough so I could Crossfire and then maybe buy a newer card in the future and Crossfire THAT card. I'm sure the newer cards won't take as much power, because the GeForce GTX 680 didn't take up as much power and people would think it would.


Actually not really because the 78XX is far more energy efficient than previous generations - the days of 1K+ PSUs are coming to an end.

Instead of going with 2 x 7850 - you should go 1 x 7970 or 1 x 680 since those are the best of the best right now and it's always better to have a single strong GPU solution than two weaker ones.

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MOBO: Undecided. I have no idea what I want to get. Give me some suggestions, preferably the new Z77 motherboards so this thing will last longer and should I wait for the i5-3570K to come out or should I just stick with the i5-2500k?


I have to say the higher-end Z77s are sweet, I'm really liking what I'm seeing with a lot of these boards. The 3570 is *SUPPOSEDLY* out in two weeks - hopefully the reports are accurate.

With the budget - is that $1500 with everything or is that $1000 on PC and $500 on monitor / OS / peripherals? Because the two are drastically different.

I already have all the peripherals, but I don't have the Windows 7 Home Premium, so I guess I'll have to buy it. Also I can't really get the 680's because of my budget and I've heard that they're better, use less power, and cost less than the 7970's, and thanks for the advice about the RAM. I think I'll just stick to the 7850's and then either upgrade or Crossfire when I have more money.
April 15, 2012 2:05:10 AM

kajabla said:
This is looking pretty nice.

You don't need more PSU than a good 650W model, like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The 7850 uses a remarkably small amount of power.

The case should go purely by stylistic preference. Almost any model over $50 will work just fine. Check with us before you make the purchase, but go trawl Newegg and see what catches your eye.

Drop those RAM sticks. Their giant heatsinks are useless and will do nothing but, possibly, block your CPU cooler. You don't have one of those on here, by the way: go for the Hyper 212 EVO. For the RAM, just about anything will work. These are plenty nice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and they come in orange, too.

Z77 won't really give you anything Z68 can't. Integrated USB 3.0 isn't a big deal. You might as well get the ASRock Z68 Extreme3. It's remarkably cheap and will work with Ivy Bridge when you decide, eventually, to upgrade.


@below: yes, please clarify your budget. You should basically put everything together but the PSU and GPU and then get the best single GPU you can afford with a PSU that can handle future SLI/Xfire.

Thanks, are you sure 650W is enough to power everything? I'll get that motherboard unless the newer Ivy Bridge processors will be worth it.
April 15, 2012 2:06:27 AM

That mobo CAN handle Ivy Bridge. That's the cool part.

Yes, 650W will cover two 7850s.
April 15, 2012 2:09:08 AM

I just built a system with the same budget range as you. I pretty much was in the same position as you are. This was my first build
Here's what I got:
-Intel 2500k
-ASRock Extreme3 Gen3
-Sapphire RHD 7850 Factory OC'd Edition
-8GB G.Skill Ripjaws
-CM Hyper 212+ (Cheaper than the EVO with the same performance really.)
-Antec 650W PSU
-Rosewill Gear X3 Case (Case is personal preference depending on the money you have to spend)
-WD Caviar Black 750GB Hard Drive (Salvaged this old drive from my last computer)
-Sony Optical Drive (Salvaged from old computer)
-W7 Home Premium

I highly recommend the ASRock Extreme3 Gen3 for your mobo choice. As for your PSU, chose a 650W from Corsair. Whether you want modular or not is your choice, but I'd save my money and go with the non-modular.

I'll put together another build with all the links in a second.
April 15, 2012 2:09:35 AM

kajabla said:
That mobo CAN handle Ivy Bridge. That's the cool part.

Yes, 650W will cover two 7850s.

Wow, I thought only the Z77's could use the Ivy Bridge. And thank you for the power supply help, now I know what to get, but I'm still kinda unsure about the processor and motherboard...
April 15, 2012 2:11:46 AM

Unless you feel like waiting for Ivy, the 2500K is the only possible choice.

darkclown, I think the EVO's worth the $5. EDIT nope it's $9! The 212+ is probably the way to go, then.
April 15, 2012 2:12:16 AM

darkclownjoe said:
I just built a system with the same budget range as you. I pretty much was in the same position as you are. This was my first build
Here's what I got:
-Intel 2500k
-ASRock Extreme3 Gen3
-Sapphire RHD 7850 Factory OC'd Edition
-8GB G.Skill Ripjaws
-CM Hyper 212+ (Cheaper than the EVO with the same performance really.)
-Antec 650W PSU
-Rosewill Gear X3 Case (Case is personal preference depending on the money you have to spend)
-WD Caviar Black 750GB Hard Drive (Salvaged this old drive from my last computer)
-Sony Optical Drive (Salvaged from old computer)
-W7 Home Premium

I highly recommend the ASRock Extreme3 Gen3 for your mobo choice. As for your PSU, chose a 650W from Corsair. Whether you want modular or not is your choice, but I'd save my money and go with the non-modular.

I'll put together another build with all the links in a second.

Thanks! That's really cool. I can't salvage anything from this computer except a wire maybe, it's really bad. 4 years old and with Intel integrated graphics, bleh.
April 15, 2012 2:16:53 AM

kajabla said:
Unless you feel like waiting for Ivy, the 2500K is the only possible choice.

darkclown, I think the EVO's worth the $5. EDIT nope it's $9! The 212+ is probably the way to go, then.

I think I'll wait for the Ivy Bridge Processors. Hopefully they won't be out of stock all the time. If they're in stock and they're worth getting, I'll probably get it. If they're no better than the i5-2500K's, I definitely WILL NOT get it. Actually, I might, it consumes less power. Hopefully the i5-2500K's price will go down because of the Ivy Bridge processors.
April 15, 2012 2:24:59 AM

kajabla said:
That mobo CAN handle Ivy Bridge. That's the cool part.

Yes, 650W will cover two 7850s.

I was just looking at this motherboard, and it looks great and cheap, but does it support Crossfire?
April 15, 2012 2:25:58 AM

Yep. Incidentally, you can get the 2500K for $180 at a physical Microcenter store.
April 15, 2012 2:29:48 AM

kajabla said:
Yep.

Okay, that's great. Sorry if I ask too many questions, I'm a real noob at this kind of stuff. I'll get that motherboard. This power supply seems legit, I want a modular one because I don't want my case to look messy. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and what were you talking about when you said not to get the Corsair Vengeance?
April 15, 2012 2:31:19 AM

Those super-tall spiky heatsinks. They don't do anything, and they may get in the way. You'll do better getting RAM that doesn't have them.

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April 15, 2012 2:32:30 AM
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Here it is:
-Intel 2500k - $219.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - $34.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-ASRock z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 Motherboard - $121.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 - $249.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB RAM Kit - $41.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD - $139.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced - $134.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Corsair TX650M Modular Power Supply - $109.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Lite-On CD/DVD Burner - $17.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Windows 7 Home Premium - $99.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1171.90 with the modular PSU
$1151.90 with the non-modular PSU

Notes:
-You can choose the modular or non-modular power supply. I put the modular one up there.^ If you don't care for it you can get the non-modular for $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Case is your choice really. As long as it has decent airflow you're good. You can find some Rosewill cases if you wanted to save some cash.
-The G.Skill Ripjaws X Series are out of stock right now. If they are in stock when you decide to buy, get them.
-I'm not exactly sure about taxes in Texas, but for me (in CA) taxes can be annoying. You can buy most of the things from Amazon depending on whether they charge taxes for you.
-If you can get the a Microcenter Store, you can save on your CPU and motherboard. You can get the CPU for $179.99 & the mobo for $74.99 in a combo deal. It's the same parts I listed up there. (The 2500k and the ASRock z68 Extreme3 Gen3
April 15, 2012 2:33:10 AM

kajabla said:
Those super-tall spiky heatsinks. They don't do anything, and they may get in the way. You'll do better getting RAM that doesn't have them.

But they look so sexy and I've heard so many good things about them. I'll trust you though because you seem to be an expert :sol:  . Do they really get in the way? Are you saying it can't fit in the case? Also what I have for the optical drive is correct right?
April 15, 2012 2:36:30 AM

darkclownjoe said:
Here it is:
-Intel 2500k - $219.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - $34.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-ASRock Extreme 3 Gen 3 Motherboard - $121.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 - $249.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB RAM Kit - $41.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD - $139.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced - $134.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Corsair TX650M Modular Power Supply - $109.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Lite-On CD/DVD Burner - $17.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Windows 7 Home Premium - $99.99 (Newegg)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1171.90 with the modular PSU
$1151.90 with the non-modular PSU

Notes:
-You can choose the modular or non-modular power supply. I put the modular one up there.^ If you don't care for it you can get the non-modular for $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Case is your choice really. As long as it has decent airflow you're good. You can find some Rosewill cases if you wanted to save some cash.
-The G.Skill Ripjaws X Series are out of stock right now. If they are in stock when you decide to buy, get them.
-I'm not exactly sure about taxes in Texas, but for me (in CA) taxes can be annoying. You can buy most of the things from Amazon depending on whether they charge taxes for you.

Wow, thanks a lot for taking your time darkclownjoe and kajabla, it's very much appreciated. So is that power supply better than this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... The one I posted seems expensive, is it worth the money?
April 15, 2012 2:40:55 AM

icyshark said:
Wow, thanks a lot for taking your time darkclownjoe and kajabla, it's very much appreciated. So is that power supply better than this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... The one I posted seems expensive, is it worth the money?

Seasonic is a VERY good and highly rated brand. Also, the Seasonic PSU is Gold Certified compared to the Bronze certified Corsair one. If you have the money, you can go with the Seasonic.
April 15, 2012 2:46:37 AM

darkclownjoe said:
Seasonic is a VERY good and highly rated brand. Also, the Seasonic PSU is Gold Certified compared to the Bronze certified Corsair one. If you have the money, you can go with the Seasonic.

Thank you very much, I was actually thinking of buying a very expensive motherboard, but you guys really helped me out there. I'll get rid of the spiky ram also. I don't really want to change the case, it just seems so good. I'll check other sites for better deals.
April 15, 2012 2:52:02 AM

Thanks to you guys, I know what I'll get now and how would I install all the drivers and overclock all this stuff? Tell me or give me a link please.
April 15, 2012 2:52:48 AM

If you wanted the spiky heatsinks, you could probably set the RAM in the 2nd and 4th slots to make it work. I'm not exactly sure how big the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is compared to the Hyper 212+, but you should be able to make it work. As for the case, it's all personal preference that will fit in your price range pretty much.
April 15, 2012 2:55:32 AM

icyshark said:
Thanks to you guys, I know what I'll get now and how would I install all the drivers and overclock all this stuff? Tell me or give me a link please.

For physically building the system and installing the software, I used a Newegg video guide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok

For Overclocking there's a thread in the OC'ing section especially for 2500k's.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265056-29-2600k-2500k...
April 15, 2012 2:56:57 AM

Thank you, I won't need anymore help.
April 15, 2012 3:00:22 AM

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