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1500$ Gaming Pc. Tell me if i should change something

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April 15, 2012 3:29:51 PM

Hi I already started buying my pc ,I'll put the list under the preference .

Approximate Purchase Date: .:Soon.

Budget Range: : 1300-1800)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (I want ultra quality and high fps.),Watching blu-ray , ...

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS,Case,blu-ray drive,Processor,PowerSuply,SSD,)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Directcanada ,newegg.com, ncix.com

Country: Canada

Parts Preferences: Intel,nvidia but Ati 7000 series look good.

Overclocking: Later .

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe later.

Monitor Resolution: Minimum 1920x1080, 1920x1200.

So here's what i already have :
Processor:I5 2500k , http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD1527&v...
Powersuply:Antec High Current Gamer 620W http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC7760&v...
Case:Silverstone RV03B-W Raven 3 Black ATX http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC5642&v...
SSD:o CZ Vertex 3 250gb . http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59355&vpn=VT...

And I think i will buy :
Motherboard: Gigabyte z77 http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD9658&v...
Or Asus Z68-v Pro Gen 3 , http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD5676&v...
Im really not sure wich one is beter .... please help :( 

Video card :Gigabyte 7870 http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD8406&v...
But i kinda would had liked the 680 :|

Ram: 16 gb http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD8406&v...

Please let me know what you think ...

Ill be back in 8 hours after works .
Thank a lot for your help and have a good day .
(Sorry im bad in english but i do my best :)  )




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April 15, 2012 4:27:14 PM

Well... I'd get a Z68 motherboard since you don't have IB. I'd get the ASRock Extreme3 Gen3... it's a favorite.

For the GPU: The GTX 680 is not in stock that often, and is also very expensive. The 7870 can be overclocked to 680 performance. I would suggest the MSI Twin Frozr II OC edition.

RAM: 8GB is enough. Your link to the RAM is the same as the GPU, so I don't know what type you have. Just get 8GB of DDR3-1600 CAS9 1.5v or lower RAM

CPU cooler: Hyper 212 Evo
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April 15, 2012 4:46:36 PM

But you may want a GTX 680 to max out on that res...

That's a beautiful setup. Except for the Apple keyboard... :o 
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April 15, 2012 5:16:39 PM

@solder,great setup especially the monitor but apple keyboard with a razor mouse LOL
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April 15, 2012 6:35:51 PM

How long from now is soon ?

I would definitely stick with getting a Z77 motherboard though, it's not like they are wildly more expensive or anything. Either of those are good.

You should invest $30 or so in a good after market cpu cooler, like this one:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

The 7870 is a really good card. At it's price point it can't be beat. Buy the PowerColor PCS+ version of the card. It performs ALMOST as good as a 7950!!!

Here is a link to it:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
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April 15, 2012 6:46:57 PM

Powercolor? MSI Twin Frozr OC all the way, baby! SO much better! Also, the PowerColor only has one fan... making the cooling pretty loud.
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April 15, 2012 6:56:10 PM

ddan49 said:
Powercolor? MSI Twin Frozr OC all the way, baby! SO much better! Also, the PowerColor only has one fan... making the cooling pretty loud.


Not necessarily true. The Powercolor PCS+ card is quieter than most 7870's though it runs a bit hotter.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5691/the-retail-radeon-hd...

This article could be much better if it showed every 7870 though. In the end almost any 7870 is going to be a good choice.
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April 15, 2012 7:07:04 PM

I do know that Twin Frozr is designed for cooling quietly...

I think it's personal preference, though. Unfortunately, information about MSI Twin Frozr OC's 7850 and 7870 is limited on newegg, and it doesn't state noise levels like on other models (GTX 560 Ti).

I haven't had any experience with Powercolor, though. Ar e they good overclockers? MSI cards cost a bit more, though... I'd personally suggest MSI, but I don't know how it compares to PowerColor.
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April 15, 2012 7:41:39 PM

I'm not sure as I don't speak from experience, I would suspect that the MSI card you mentioned overclocks better, although the "stock" settings on the PowerColor card are higher.

Yeah MSI do usually make cards for quieter/cooler operation. They often have a triple-slot sized card in most card families to do just that.

Honestly though the 7870 the OP selected looks like a really good choice too so long as there is proper clearance in his case.
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April 15, 2012 10:07:39 PM

Yeah.. valid on all points.
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April 15, 2012 10:09:27 PM

Hi again , thank for your help :) 
-1:By soon I mean that I want to buy it the next week.
-2:I will stick to the z77 since the price's not rlly higher and later i could maybe switch to IB *******(please tell me if you think there's a better model than the model i choose ).
-3:About the 7870 Im still unsure about the one ill take http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12980BD2405&v... or http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD8406&v... or http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=13630BD3577&v... or http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... newegg powercolor look like the best ...

-4:I will also add this http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683... to my config or http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC0554&v... ? :(  .

-5:About the ram this is the one I had found http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12410AC0661&v... would 8gb of these be allright ? .

So far :
XMotherboard: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD2158&v... *Is there a better model?
Processor: i5 2500k
XGPU:7870 Wich model ?
SSD:o CZ vertex 3
Case: Raven 3
PSU:Antec High Current Gamer 620W
XRAM:Kingston KHX1600C9D3K4/16GX 16GB 1600MHz DDR3 NON-ECC CL9 DIMM (Kit of 4) XMP (will be changed for 8gb).
Cooler:Very unsure .

Thank again .
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April 15, 2012 10:16:50 PM

1/2)Don't switch from SB to IB... but if you're buying then you might was well get an IB. You can't wait an extra week?

3) I'd take the MSI... it's 50MHz slower than the fastest, and 50 higher than the lowest... yet it can overclock and cool like a beast. It's also cheaper than the Gigabyte and PowerColor (newegg), and a little more expensive than the other PowerColor

4) Good choice. Get the Direct Canada one... it's cheaper. Only 39 left, though!

5) No... it's 1.65v :( 
You need 1.5v or lower. It didn't show it on the retailer's page, but on the Kingston web page for that specific RAM, it says it's 1.65v

Mobo: That's really pricey... try an ASRock Extreme4

I think that's all. The Cooler is the Hyper 212 Evo... I thought you picked that. Why are you still very unsure?

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April 15, 2012 10:48:18 PM

1-Do you think IB is worth it ? Is it not max 15% more perf ?Wont the first one be ginea pig like ? I mean full of probleme .
2- Z77 Extreme4 is out of stock :(  Maybe go for the z77 Extreme 6 ?
3-Ok ill go with the MSI and the cooler master :)  so 2 thing's clear ^.^
4-About that ram , I have been told to watch RADS for the cooler ? got an idea why ? (also been told ripjaw was bad for this because of rad ... it would have something to do with the case and the rad ...++ doesnt fit with z77
5- if I say the price does'nt mater for the motherboard would you stay with the Extreme 4 ? (max 300$.)

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April 15, 2012 11:06:12 PM

Krazy's RAM is 1866... which is not really worth it imo. 1600 is plenty fast enough... and you've got an SSD, so it's not like loading speeds will be slow. Anyway...

1) I think it's worth it, especially because:

2) Z77 Extreme4 boards will be shipped in soon. There is a very high demand for them... the US newegg is out of stock on them, too. Just make sure you buy the right Extreme4... there's a micro version out there. While you're waiting for IB, I'm sure that the Extreme4s will get shipped into newegg.

3) Good! I just like MSI because it doesn't just give you the card, it enhances it. I'd suggest using either MSI afterburner or the ASUS utility... I've heard the ASUS is great (for overclocking, I mean. Those are for overclocking the GPU). PSU seems to be fine, although possibly you may want to go to the PSU section of the forums and ask them to make sure Amps and stuff is right.

4) I don't know anything about that. That might be something you ask about in the Memory section... I really don't know. But the RAM krazyjamus suggested is 1866... which is more expensive than 1600, and also not worth it imo (especially because you have an SSD).

5) Er... I know that the Extreme4 is plenty good enough for all of the needs... if price wasn't an issue and you wanted to Crossfire in the future, then I would get a Crossfire-certified mobo with at least three slots for Crossfire (three so that you can space them out... heat issues). However, if you're sticking to one GPU, I think the Extreme4 is plenty good enough. ASUS makes good boards, as well as Gigabyte, but theirs are expensive. I don't know enough about motherboards to really recommend anything... :( 

As you can see, I'm not really an expert in motherboards or PSUs (NVidia GPU selections I'm also hazy in). However, I can judge how well the build is going to perform, so hopefully I've helped you enough to get on the right track!
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April 15, 2012 11:10:54 PM

The Ripjaws should fit under a Hyper 212 no problem. It's only with MASSIVE coolers like a NOCTUA DH-14 do you have to get lower profile ram.

As for getting a pricey'er motherboard you have to ask yourself what you really want to get out of this motherboard. In general more expensive motherboards will offer more connections on the I/O bracket like more USB, dual-LAN, and that sort of thing. They also usually have slightly better cooling for their chipsets and overclock a bit better than their mid-range cousins.
The extreme4 board is probably all you need but if you really want a big mean motherboard you could get one of these, they all look very promising:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

About my ram choice being 1866mhz and it "not being worth it". That is sort of true. The difference in price is about $15 over 1600mhz ram and you will only get 0-3fps more with the 1866mhz ram. 1600mhz is definitely the sweet spot for price/performance, but we aren't talking about a lot of money of a difference and if money isn't a bit issue then I think you might as well get the 1866mhz stuff. Just my opinion though.
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April 15, 2012 11:38:05 PM

Ok so I will wait for the Extreme 4 to ship in . I already have my i5 2500k so i cant really just wait for IB that's why I was wondering if it would be woth switching later .

Could you give me a link to the best 1600mhz ram i could buy ? :| i was looking at the
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... but it aint on the motherboard support list .
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April 15, 2012 11:50:55 PM

get the ocz aglitiy3 120gb for 129.99 + 20 MIR an 10 Gift Card at ncix
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April 16, 2012 1:00:57 AM

I would rather get a Mushkin 120GB.
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April 16, 2012 1:24:38 AM

Crucial m4 all the way!
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April 16, 2012 2:41:26 AM

Yeah, that's what I was going for :) 

If you wait, SSD prices will fall even more...
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April 16, 2012 3:24:04 AM

$147 for a very reliable 128gb ssd is a great deal.
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April 16, 2012 3:25:42 AM

I paid $105 for my Corsair Force Series 3 90gb SSD a few months ago. I find it to be a very reliable and fast drive. They are often on sale and/or have mail in rebates, good deal.
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April 16, 2012 4:02:11 AM

Three months ago, that would have been a steal... a real steal.
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April 16, 2012 11:50:15 AM

Hi :)  cancelled the SB and ill wait for IB . But its too late for SSD i already have my 250gb ...
So its gonna be :

MotherBoard:Z77 Extreme 4.
Processor:IB ???
XX Powersuply:Antec HCG 620w
XX Case: Raven 3.
VideoCard:Radeon MSI 7870 OC Twin frozr
Ram:G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9Q-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24
XX SSD:o CZ vertex 3 250GB

What do you think about it ? Would you change anything ?
Im also waiting for the 7xxx series price to fall since it has been predicted to be very soon . . .

**XX mean that i already have it (aint gonna change it .)
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April 16, 2012 12:07:07 PM

looks great to me.but i hate OCZ drives.two ocz drives failed in my dads pc.at last he got a 830 128gb ssd which is working fine.i wouldn't recommend OCZ ssds
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April 16, 2012 12:14:02 PM

Processor: i5-3750k

Everything else seems good.
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