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WIN 7 BSOD 124, 9c, machine check exception, random shut downs...

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July 30, 2012 12:11:55 AM

First started maybe a week ago, started getting stop code 0x00000124 unrecoverable hardware error randomly, mostly while playing a game.
I tried to reseat all cards and cables and my cpu and started getting Machine Check Exception errors with no stop codes, or stop code 0x0000009c with no error message.

After another round of reseating and blowing out all dust these 2 errors (MCE and 9c) are gone.

Now I get random shut downs or stop code 124 unccorectable hardware error. Only 1 stick of RAM, core HD with OS, PSU, mobo, cpu are used right now. The 124 also comes in safe mode.
I am pretty sure it's not the RAM because I have 1 2gb 800mhz stick and 2 1gb 633mhz. They all work in my old machine which I'm currently using. (by the way can I mix and match to get 3gb if I set it from auto to 633 in BIOS? both are corsair but they are of course diff mem size and speed)

What can I do to solve this issue? What could be the problem?
a few versions of the BSOD
0x00000124 (0x00000000, 0x856CA024, 0xB220000B, 0x00080A01)
0x00000124 (0x00000000, 0x85CCA024, 0xB220000F, 0x00080A01)

Mobo - MSI 613M (MS-7379 model)
GPU- Nvidia geforce 210 (galaxy make)
CPU - Intel E8400 Core 2 Duo, 3ghz
PSU- turbolink atx-cw420w 12v

EDIT: I also have an asus 300w PSU 12v I was wondering if I could swap them out to test if my PSU is failing on the machine with errors?
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July 30, 2012 4:54:01 AM

try using memtest, that will bring out memory errors alot better http://www.memtest86.com/ burn it to a disk or extract it to a usb

and a dying psu will result in other errors than such, like your hardrive spinning down semi-randomly and causing system lock ups
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July 30, 2012 11:53:03 AM

Both those BSOD messages indicate an unstable mobo/CPU. Could be due to some other component though [PSU, for example].
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July 30, 2012 11:57:56 AM

Could you post the information provided from the dump file Windows should have created? That would provide more detailed information about your crash.
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July 30, 2012 3:14:24 PM

raise vcore cpu
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July 31, 2012 4:20:15 AM

@henydiah how do I raise vcore CPU? I can't find it in the BIOS (if that's where I'm supposed to look)

@neieus I need help with posting dump files, I was unable to install windows 7 debug tools, there were multiple ones that worked with 7, maybe I got the wrong one.
Someone please help with how to do this. Also, a lot of the time I'm unable to get into my desktop for more than a few minutes in safe mode.. and that's if I'm lucky. So if I need to get there to get my dump files..

0x0000000A ( 0x00000000, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x8307B133
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL - had a few hard drives unhooked when I got this.

0x00000124 ( 0x00000000, 0x856CA024, 0xB620000B, 0x00080A01) - in safe mode no networking

0x00000124 (0x00000000, 0x856CC024, 0xB620001F, 0x00080A01) - safe mode w/ network

0x0000007B (0x80D86B50, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) - after uninstalling drivers, this came in safe mode w/ and w/o network

0x00000124 (0x00000000, 0x85CCA024, 0xB220000F, 0x00080A01)

0x00000124 (0x00000000, 0x85636024, 0xB6200000, 0x00080A01) - in safe mode

all the 124's are unrecoverable hardware errors
I did not write down the 9c errors, they always come after swapping hardware, usually until I try the "Last good settings" options.

Earlier today I was able to get into my normal desktop with everything hooked up, including my old PSU and was playing WoW and using skype to stress test. Everything was going okay and so I went to the gym and left it with the game still on. When I came back, had a 124 error. Since then it's gotten worse and worse, like it was yesterday and the day before.

Someone help me with the dump files and I'll try to get those, I'm sure it would help out more than what I have here.

Thanks
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July 31, 2012 12:33:20 PM

At this point, I recommend the following steps:

1: Run memtest. Granted, I don't think this is a RAM problem, but may as well try the easy solution.

2: Raise VCore a bit. I don't think its a voltage related problem either, but a slight bump won't hurt too much.

Right now, I'm fairly certain its HW related. 0x124 and 0x9C generally indicates hardware instability, usually the mobo and CPU. If the above two steps yield nothing, then one of the two is probably bad.
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July 31, 2012 1:42:55 PM

gamerk316 said:
At this point, I recommend the following steps:

1: Run memtest. Granted, I don't think this is a RAM problem, but may as well try the easy solution.

2: Raise VCore a bit. I don't think its a voltage related problem either, but a slight bump won't hurt too much.

Right now, I'm fairly certain its HW related. 0x124 and 0x9C generally indicates hardware instability, usually the mobo and CPU. If the above two steps yield nothing, then one of the two is probably bad.


I mentioned earlier I'm unable to find the option to raise Vcore in BIOS, and I don't know where else to look since the guides I found say it's in the BIOS. Could you help me with this?
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July 31, 2012 2:11:02 PM

300 watt PSU is really low, some PSU at 300 watt don't even give you 300 watt full output power, only 82%, the same applies to the 420 watt.

Also, all of your ram would be running at the lower mhz of 633mhz, it's not 663mhz, it should be 667mhz.

This is a Windows XP? Surely not Windows 7?

FujitsuSiemens computer model Scaleo P2 MS-7379

http://uk.ts.fujitsu.com/rl/servicesupport/techsupport/...


You probably over used the ram to the point it actually faltered, usually happens when compiling or running a game at high output or for a long time. You wouldn't notice it if you only played Spider Solitaire.

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July 31, 2012 3:57:27 PM

It's not Windows XP... it's Windows 7 like the beginning of the title states.

Not sure what the link is for but that isn't my computer and my mobo isn't even listed there, like I said it's - http://www.msi.com/product/mb/G31M.html

Unless the RAM falters only in that machine it's not the RAM, because like I said earlier, I used all of them separately in my old machine for hours, and they do not falter even under high stress.

Doubt it's the PSU because it fails in safe mode with 1 stick of ram and my c drive. This is not a very high power draw, and the same PSU works with a video card (8500gt), multiple hard drives, cd drive, and ethernet card plugged in (and has for about 6 years). Maybe I'm wrong but it just doesn't seem plausible that it's my PSU.


As soon as someone can help me with raising vcore or figuring out how to get my dump files since I can't get debug tools to install from the windows website, I'll post results of either.
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July 31, 2012 4:07:44 PM

hmmm CPu not compatible with mobo
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July 31, 2012 4:12:00 PM

henydiah said:
hmmm CPu not compatible with mobo


How does it work for a few years then (3-4 I think? someone else had it then upgraded)
Can non-compatible hardware run that long, or at all?
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July 31, 2012 4:57:53 PM

xcrafter2 said:
How does it work for a few years then (3-4 I think? someone else had it then upgraded)
Can non-compatible hardware run that long, or at all?


it shouldn't run properly at all
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August 1, 2012 9:41:01 PM

it has worked for years until recently, still unable to find a way to raise vcore, and can't get into my desktop to get dmp files needing help with this still
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