600-650$ gaming build

[inthecage]

approximate Purchase Date: Within the next week or two.

Budget Range: 600-650$

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Parts Not Required: Monitor, mouse, keyboard, cd drive , speakers, hard drive. (I have all these already).

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon

Country: US, fort myers florida

Parts Preferences: AMD, nvidia

Overclocking: yes

SLI or Crossfire: No

will be used for diablo 3 and LoL

Memory -G.SKILL 8GB (2 x 4GB) Ripjaws X Series DDR3 1333MHz - http://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripjaws-PC3-10666-240-Pin-F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL/dp/B004ISXB4C/ref=sr_1_26?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1334630195&sr=1-26]

Drive controllers -???

GRAPHICS CARD-EVGA GeForce GTX480 1536MB GDDR5 - http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GTX480-Graphics-015-P3-1480-KR/dp/B004EHWMP6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1334630686&sr=1-1

Motherboard -BIOSTAR TA990FXE- http://www.amazon.com/Biostar-990FX-6Gbps-Motherboard-TA990FXE/dp/B005THXZDS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1334630764&sr=1-1

cpu processor -amd phenom ii 965 black edition - http://www.amazon.com/Phenom-Black-3-4Ghz-512KB-4000MHZ/dp/B002SRQ214/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1334630785&sr=1-1

Case -Apevia X-TRP-RD X-TROOPER - http://www.amazon.com/Apevia-X-TRP-RD-X-TROOPER-Series-Computer/dp/B0051QRFN8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1334630824&sr=1-1

total price= 572.46$

diablo 3 system requirements- http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/diablo-iii-system-requirements

 

[andrewcarr]

You seem to be forgetting a PSU (power supply) and OS (operating system) those alone add another $150 to the price.
I would get this for the price (I chose an AMD CPU because you wanted that but didn't chose a NVidia GPU because the one's for the price are simply better, also I would prefer to get Intel CPU but you specifically wanted AMD although Intel would be better for gaming).
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=23883367

 

[andrewcarr]

If you would be willing to get an Intel processor I would get this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157246
You could also take away the CPU cooler then since the i3 can't be overclocked.
That would be all you would have to change.

Reasoning behind all of the parts I picked.
GPU it is the best card in the price range.

CPU the AMD is the OEM version of the CPU which just means it doesn't come in the box with a cooler, since you would overclock anyways the cooler that comes with the CPU is unneeded. The Intel is better for gaming that the AMD and it offers a better upgrade line. The Intel 1155 socket is being updated while the current AM3+ socket processors are worse than the AM3 processors.

Case is a better brand that Apevia but if you really like the case you found by all means take that over the Antec one because it's your computer build.

Memory is just good cheap 1333 speed.

The PSU is a good reliable brand that has the power to power the GPU and is a good price.

Both motherboards have the ability to upgrade the memory (2 unused slots) and have USB 3.0 on the back.

For the CPU cooler (only needed for AMD processor) the model is an updated (slightly better) version of one of the most popular coolers on the market, also performs great for the price.

Lastly the OS is windows 7 64Bit so that it can handle the 8GB of memory and possibly more.

 

[inthecage]

thanks and i forgot to add i do have a PSU and OS
psu- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004W2T2UQ/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
os- windows 7 home premium 64bit

 

[andrewcarr]

I guess besides that your build looks fine but I would get some of the parts off of http://www.newegg.com/ because they are cheaper. That website is one of the most used in the US for computer parts and is very good for RMA's and shipping times.

Since you don't live in a state where they have a warehouse you don't have to pay tax either. Just mentioning it so that you might be able to save a bit of money.

Are you sticking to your budget or going over by $75? If you had a bit more of a price cap you could consider getting the 560Ti or even the 7850.

 

[inthecage]

I guess besides that your build looks fine but I would get some of the parts off of http://www.newegg.com/ because they are cheaper. That website is one of the most used in the US for computer parts and is very good for RMA's and shipping times.

Since you don't live in a state where they have a warehouse you don't have to pay tax either. Just mentioning it so that you might be able to save a bit of money.

Are you sticking to your budget or going over by $75? If you had a bit more of a price cap you could consider getting the 560Ti or even the 7850.

Thanks and i maybe be able to the 560Ti! also the first link to a newegg wishlist you sent me was empty

 

[andrewcarr]

Thanks and i maybe be able to the 560Ti! also the first link to a newegg wishlist you sent me was empty

I don't know why but I don't have a lot of time so I'm just posting the links.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103924
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157305
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

Hope that helps.

 

[inthecage]

thanks

 

[Rockdpm]

Right now dude, the best thing you can do if you absolutely want a AMD processor...

Phenom II 980
Phenom II 975
Phenom II 1090T (if you can find one, since AMD has taken Phenom off the market) What kinda board do you want? Mid range?

 

[inthecage]

I have decided to go with the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077 and my motherboard will be a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138352 also im wondering if they will fit into this case

 

[Cold_War]

Yes it will fit in the case, but I would think about getting a HAF 912 of Newegg. It's a great case and is only $50 after a rebate. You could also go for a NZXT Source 220 if you wanted, it's the same price as the Apevia.

 

[inthecage]

Ok so im going to order this the 20th and this is what i have decided to buy any last minute changes are still appreciated

graphics card- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130621

OS- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

cpu/mobo deal- http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.900319

the reason im not buying a case and buying a OS instead is because i currently have a Emachine et1331g so im just going to use its case/hard drive and i dont belive i can just plug my hard drive into my new mobo and have it will run my current OS so if im rite im going to have to wipe it clean then put a new OS on it?

 

[andrewcarr]

One change you can make to save you quite a bit of money is to switch to the 7850 it performs about the same as the 570 in most games and is $50 cheaper.
proof- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-review-benchmark,3148.html & http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-4.html
The 7850 I would get- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102986

Yes you will have to do a fresh install of windows.

Just check the inside dimensions of the case to make sure the GPU you are looking at will fit (although I believe it will just to be sure).

Also you should be able to use a PSU at 500w to get the job done with either GPU (570 or 7850) http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

I like your motherboard choice because it allows you to easily upgrade to Ivy Bridge in the future and if you get a k model CPU it will allow you to overclock it, good find.

 

[aznshinobi]

I would go Intel. AMD just fails in comparison. Specially in frames.
Check out my $650 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Since you don't need an HDD, switch the 6870 to the 7850. (+90)
http://www.amazon.com/HD7850-DC2-2GD5-DisplayPort-Utilities-PCI-Express-Graphics/dp/B007JLFV7U%3FSubscriptionId%3D19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2%26tag%3Dsquid1240995-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB007JLFV7U

i5 2400 vs 965
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=363

The 7850 will save power, have lower temps, better overclocks, higher performance after overclock, and at stock it's close to the 480 in performance.

 

[andrewcarr]

I would go Intel. AMD just fails in comparison. Specially in frames.
Check out my $650 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Since you don't need an HDD, switch the 6870 to the 7850. (+90)
http://www.amazon.com/HD7850-DC2-2GD5-DisplayPort-Utilities-PCI-Express-Graphics/dp/B007JLFV7U%3FSubscriptionId%3D19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2%26tag%3Dsquid1240995-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB007JLFV7U

i5 2400 vs 965
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=363

The 7850 will save power, have lower temps, better overclocks, higher performance after overclock, and at stock it's close to the 480 in performance.

Some people need to read the entire thread, he has decided on an i3-2120 and an Z77 motherboard.

 

[aznshinobi]

Oh well sorry.

Seeing as OP needs OS. Solid route. Wouldn't suggest the 570 as you stated. Go with the 7850. Lower power consumption, costs less, cooler, and overclocks better. As I stated. After overclocks it's able to surpass a 570 at max OC.

 

[guerrero]

i3 2120 will give better performance on gaming

 

[andrewcarr]

i3 2120 will give better performance on gaming

lol Again read the thread people.

 

[guerrero]

lol Again read the thread people.

lol it will give better performance for that 965 i read a little

 

[andrewcarr]

Now that the 9650 was pointed out I noticed something weird, sorry I'm off topic.
http://www.amazon.com/Phenom-Black-3-4Ghz-512KB-4000MHZ/dp/B002SRQ214/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1334630785&sr=1-1
Apparently the original CPU he posted runs at "3.4 GHz" or "4000 MHz". Am I missing something?

He just had the i3-2120 picked out for a bit and it annoys me when people jump in like that and don't read so I always make sure I do read if I contribute to a thread.

 

[pfunkmd]

I think the choice to change from amd to Intel was a good one. I recently built up a AMD rig with the FX 6100 (because I was on a budget) ASUS ATI Radeon EAH6870 DC/2DI2S/1GD5 and the GigaByte GA-970A-ud3 mbu. Let me tell you it was crap for games and just about everything else. Even after I updated everything and got all of the correct drivers it just was not that good. Its hard to explain its almost like the amd chip was not really compatible with everything and it seamed so inconsistent.In fact I have a note book Lenovo g770 with the older i5 dual core that runs so much smoother than the amd chip. So what I did was took it all apart and returned the cpu and mbu and purchased the i3 with the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 mbu. I can say the in my opinion the i3 performs much better. Also the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 mbu is a killer looking board and it has tons of features. From what I have read the mbu is arguably the best bang for your buck Intel board so soy may want to think about kicking out the extra 20 bucks and getting that one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

 

[andrewcarr]

Yes the board is a good bang for the buck but he doesn't want to CF/SLI his GPU in the future so there is no benefit of the extra money everything else him current motherboard can do and has the Z77 chip set for an Ivy Bridge upgrade in the future (although yes the Z68 is also compatible with Ivy Bridge, I don't know if their could be any problems that could arise with that, such as only certain vendors making them compatible).

 

[pfunkmd]

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One change you can make to save you quite a bit of money is to switch to the 7850 it performs about the same as the 570 in most games and is $50 cheaper.
proof- http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-review-benchmark,3148.html & http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-4.html
The 7850 I would get- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102986

Yes you will have to do a fresh install of windows.

Just check the inside dimensions of the case to make sure the GPU you are looking at will fit (although I believe it will just to be sure).

Also you should be able to use a PSU at 500w to get the job done with either GPU (570 or 7850) http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

I like your motherboard choice because it allows you to easily upgrade to Ivy Bridge in the future and if you get a k model CPU it will allow you to overclock it, good find.

I have a ASUS EAH6870 and I am wondering what the performance differences are is it really worth the extra 75 dollars for the SAPPHIRE 11200-00-20G Radeon HD 7850 2GB and would you notice in games? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121418&Tpk=asus%206870 I can play all of my games like battlefield 3 and Crysis maxed out and its perfectly smooth. If the performance of the more expensive card will not be noticeable the op could save lots of cash going with a ASUS EAH6870 DC/2DI2S/1GD5 Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5. HE could take the saved cash and get a 60gb ssd for Windows. I got a ssd for my machine and I love it boots in like 20 seconds and my computer is much snappier.

 

[andrewcarr]

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I have a ASUS EAH6870 and I am wondering what the performance differences are is it really worth the extra 75 dollars for the SAPPHIRE 11200-00-20G Radeon HD 7850 2GB and would you notice in games? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121418&Tpk=asus%206870 I can play all of my games like battlefield 3 and Crysis maxed out and its perfectly smooth. If the performance of the more expensive card will not be noticeable the op could save lots of cash going with a ASUS EAH6870 DC/2DI2S/1GD5 Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5. HE could take the saved cash and get a 60gb ssd for Windows. I got a ssd for my machine and I love it boots in like 20 seconds and my computer is much snappier.

The 7850 performs similar to the 570 and 6970 and is cheaper than those two and it outperforms the 6950. So yes it is a worthwhile $75 spent. The SSD doesn't help in games only for windows load times. This article has the performance in games for both the 7850, 6970 and 570.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-review-benchmark,3148.html

 

[aznshinobi]

You would notice it immensely. Specially after overclocks. Temps and sound are much quieter on the 7850. The 7850 is capable of overclocking to the performance of a 7870/slightly better or in other words a GTX 580. The 6870 can barely overclock to the performance of a 560 Ti for that better the stock performance, the 7850 already was better.

It goes GPU > Majority of the system. If you're on a small budget. You take the i3 2100 instead of the i5 2400 to get a better GPU. Though it depends on the performance you require. Some actually need the i5 2400 so there is always that exception.

SSDs are nice, but on a small budget, you get the critical towards what you want to do first. That would be CPU and GPU first.