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April 17, 2012 4:30:09 AM

Approx purchase : 5 weeks from now
Budget: $400-$475 after rebates
System usage: Gaming, Gaming, and gaming
Parts not required: OS, keyboard, mouse, monitor
Website: whatever is the cheapest
Country: US
Parts preferences: AMD CPU, AMD graphics card, g skill ram
Overclocking: NO
SLI/Crossfire: NO
Other notes: nice looking case, possibly micro atx, dont need top of the line i just want to play WOW on ultra and other games like grand theft auto and call of duty on high settings. I have nothing selected yet but i was thinking about the 77.99 amd athlon ii x3 with an asus mATX mobo that unlocks the 4th core. Thanks. :bounce: 

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April 17, 2012 4:35:48 AM

For $400, you'll actually be better off getting a pre-built... building it yourself would actually cost more.
April 17, 2012 4:43:46 AM

no it wont. that doesnt make any sense. a prebuilt comp with this price would have a 1 core cpu with 1 mb or ram and a 1 mb hard drive with *** graphics.
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April 17, 2012 4:44:03 AM

If you can extend your budget just a tad:

Both have: NVIDIA GT 520 Series Graphics
With 1GB dedicated graphics memory

How both cases look:

[Click the links to see bigger]

iBUYPOWER Gamer Power WA501D3 Desktop PC with AMD FX-4100 Processor, 8GB Memory, 500GB Hard Drive and Windows 7 Home Premium (Monitor Not Included)

http://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-Gamer-Extreme-WA501...

$498






-OR-

iBUYPOWER Gamer Power 579D3 Desktop PC with AMD Athlon II X3 440 Processor, 8GB Memory, 500GB Hard Drive and Windows 7 Home Premium (Monitor Not Included)

http://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-Gamer-Power-579D3-D...

($448)
April 17, 2012 4:46:41 AM

nvidia geforce gt 520 graphics? that plays most games on low settings...
April 17, 2012 4:50:09 AM

and doesnt even play a lot of them at all...
April 17, 2012 4:57:57 AM

Unless you go with :
4GB RAM =24$
Athlon x2 2.6ghz or 3.2 Ghz =70$ to 120$
Motherboard = 59$
160 GB HDD = 25$
ATI 5770 or GTX 460 = 110$
Window 7 home premium =99$

Canadian $
April 17, 2012 5:03:55 AM

Something like this maybe:

Intel Pentium G850-$90
Radeon 6770-$110 ($20 rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hard Drive-$75
4GB of some memory-$25
H61 micro atx mother board-$50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
optical drive-$20
case-$40-50 choose one you like
PSU-$35 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That should bring you decent performance within your budget. If you have extra money spend it on a nicer graphics card. Also if you live near a Microcenter store you can upgrade the CPU to an intel i3-2100 ($100) for only $10 more.

Finally you might want to reevaluate before you buy. With new wave of Ivy bridge and GTX 600 series there might be some price changes on other products.

Edit: I know you said AMD cpu but I think intel will give you more bang for your buck as far as gaming.
April 17, 2012 5:20:07 AM

I'm sorry but you can't expect to play WoW on ultra and other new games on high for $450 without making some compromises...

A radeon 7770 should do the job for most things now that the price should go down to $140. Maybe a core i5 2400, cheap mobo, 8GB of DDR3 1333 ram, cheap psu and case. I don't know US pricing coz I'm in Australia but you should be able to get all that for $470?
April 17, 2012 5:25:38 AM

Do not get a nzxt gamma case. I had that case and the quality was so pathetic I went mad and just bought a corsair 550d. Sad thing it retails for 50 dlls plus shipping.
a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2012 9:07:12 AM

AMD is only a competitive option if you're willing to overclock. At stock clocks, intel will give you better gaming and all around performance for the $$.

Here's a build you can use as a starting point, you'll be able to play most games easily @1920 around medium settings on this rig:


$45 ($25 after mail-in)
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 (CMPSU-430CXV2) 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$88
Pentium G850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$55
ASRock H61M-VS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$42
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$80
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$140 ($130 after mail-in)
HIS H685FN1GD Radeon HD 6850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$40
Rosewill Blackbone
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

____________

$490 ($460 after mail-in)
April 17, 2012 11:14:23 AM

Not all pre-builts come with IGP. If you've noticed, all of these builds are above $400... because it's next to impossible to buy separate parts that add up to less than $400
a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2012 11:37:53 AM

ddan49 said:
Not all pre-builts come with IGP. If you've noticed, all of these builds are above $400... because it's next to impossible to buy separate parts that add up to less than $400


It's pretty easy, actually. The only reason the builds are over $400 is because the OP's budget cap is $475, so the builds will use all of it. If he had said $400 max, then the builds would be under that.

Here is a build I put together for $340 that stomps any pre-built for that price, both in speed and quality of parts.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/342356-31-guys-build-...
a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2012 12:19:26 PM

quilciri said:
AMD is only a competitive option if you're willing to overclock. At stock clocks, intel will give you better gaming and all around performance for the $$.

Here's a build you can use as a starting point, you'll be able to play most games easily @1920 around medium settings on this rig:


$45 ($25 after mail-in)
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 (CMPSU-430CXV2) 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$88
Pentium G850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$55
ASRock H61M-VS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$42
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$80
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$140 ($130 after mail-in)
HIS H685FN1GD Radeon HD 6850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$40
Rosewill Blackbone
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

____________

$490 ($460 after mail-in)

+1 Good build.

Could shave off some coin, though. Especially if you're like me and hate MIRs.

Pentium G620 will perform about the same. $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec EA-430D PSU is the same for $10 less right now. $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Redbone Case has the PSU mounted on bottom which is better for cooling. $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HIS iCooler HD 7750 is a decent, very low-power card with an amazing cooler that will perform as well as an HD 6770 or GTX 550Ti. $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Save you about $50 - though I would definitely recommend the HD 6850 if you can fit it in your budget.
April 17, 2012 12:20:29 PM

^Your RAM would cost more for four sticks of 1GB each than buying 8GB of RAM in two sticks (DDR3-1600). Also, the PSU is the most important part of the build, thus you should be willing to spend more money on it. I'm not sure it would trump a pre-built since the PSU you have has a high rate of failure.
April 17, 2012 3:08:11 PM

Rosewill Blackbone Computer Case - 39.99

Antec EarthWatts 430W Power Supply - 34.99

Intel Pentium G850 Desktop Processor - 87.99

GIGABYTE GA-H61MA-D3V LGA 1155 Intel H61 Motherboard - 59.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) Desktop Memory - 25.99

EVGA 01G-P3-1464-KR GeForce GTX 560 SE Video Card - 129.99

Seagate SV35 Series 500GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive - 74.99

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner - 13.99

TOTAL = $467.92 + 6.77 shipping = $474.69

I just ordered this exact rig for a budget gamer for my wife, only I had an extra 250gb HDD laying around so I put in a Mushkin 60gb SSD for her as a boot drive for the same price as the HDD I listed for you. I'll know more this weekend when I can build it for her :D 

Although when you go to buy/build this computer in 5 weeks approx, the prices will have changed by then.
April 17, 2012 6:49:57 PM

Keep in mind that the Antec Earthwatts doesn't ship with a power cable... so you'll have to get your own. Or if you have one lying around...
a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2012 7:38:02 PM

ddan49 said:
^Your RAM would cost more for four sticks of 1GB each than buying 8GB of RAM in two sticks (DDR3-1600). Also, the PSU is the most important part of the build, thus you should be willing to spend more money on it. I'm not sure it would trump a pre-built since the PSU you have has a high rate of failure.


LOL! You failed at reading comprehension. Big time.

Why don't you actually scroll down to MY post in that thread before you comment.

Hint 1: I'm NOT the OP
Hint 2: it's the one with my avatar next to it

for your convenience:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/342356-31-guys-build-...
a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2012 7:58:13 PM

Oh, one other thing. If you're willing to trade directx 11 support for raw power, 4870x2 cards can be had for $160 right now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's a DX 10.1 card, but as far as pure performance, you won't find a better card for that amount, it's on par with a 6970 acc to tom's hardware.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

The manufacturer recommends a 600w PSU with it, but that's more or less poppycock. You just need a strong 12v rail. The card draws 265w at load (pretty much the same as 2 4870's in xfire would :D ), and the 430w PSU i linked has 336w consistently on it's +12v.
April 17, 2012 8:00:55 PM

I wouldn't reccommend going with a refurb'd graphics card.
a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2012 8:01:42 PM

Normally I wouldn't either, but it's got a free 1 yr. warranty attached to it.
April 17, 2012 8:03:23 PM

And unless I am mistaken (I know my 560ti does have this) that EVGA cards come with a lifetime warranty.

So the 560 I listed is still the better deal and it's not a refurb.
a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2012 8:10:57 PM

Evga cards do come with a limited lifetime warranty. However Most brand new cards don't even come with a 1 year warranty unless you pay extra, so the free 1 yr. on the 4870x2 is above average even for a new card.

the 4870x2 puts up the same numbers as a 570 for only $30 more than your 560 .
A 570 will run you $290, and that's for the model that only has 1280mb RAM!. The 4870x2 has 2gb.

If the card you were recommending was a 560 Ti for $130, that would be closer, but the 4870x2 would still be more power for the money. It's just not even close on that front.

Your recommendation is still good, and if the OP wants the lifetime warranty over performance (or DX11 over performance), go for it.

I'm just providing options.

>.< think I talked myself into buying a pair of these. I love the xfire 6770's i'm using, and they mostly match a 7870, but they hiccup on massive texture loads. I would have thought they'd offer us the option to pool the RAM in sli/xfire by now instead of replicating data across, especially since sli/xfire works by having each card render a potion of the screen. At very high resolutions, and for graphic editing, the performance loss from using the pci-e bus to transfer data between RAM would be less than the loss from having to load from HDD 3 times as often.
a b 4 Gaming
April 17, 2012 8:46:35 PM

I like that build, except for the single channel RAM.

If you went with the 430w corsair, with the mail in, that'd free up enough for a second stick of the ripjaws.
April 18, 2012 2:03:37 AM

quilciri said:
LOL! You failed at reading comprehension. Big time.

Why don't you actually scroll down to MY post in that thread before you comment.

Hint 1: I'm NOT the OP
Hint 2: it's the one with my avatar next to it

for your convenience:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/342356-31-guys-build-...


What are you talking about? I know you're not the OP... I just said that the build you posted (and reposted again up there) is not price or performance efficient. Why did you think I thought you were the OP? I was giving a comment on your build.

Reading comprehension? You mean the thing I got an 800 on on the SATs... in sixth grade? That reading comprehension? (hint: I'm not much older now)
April 18, 2012 2:45:21 AM

... you've got an AMD chip, DDR2 800 RAM, and Windows 7 Pro 32-bit! Who do you think you are?!

No, I'm kidding :p 
I get drawn into these things too easily ;) 

(By the way, I'm running on a 1.83 GHz T2400 Dual-Core with 1GB of like DDR-10 RAM (I exaggerated), IGP... my Windows Experience Index is 2.3. Which just shows you don't need to OWN the hardware to be an expert on the hardware)
April 18, 2012 2:50:58 AM

For an AMD chip, that's a nice one, jessterman21
a b 4 Gaming
April 18, 2012 2:52:10 AM

ddan49 said:
What are you talking about? I know you're not the OP... I just said that the build you posted (and reposted again up there) is not price or performance efficient. Why did you think I thought you were the OP? I was giving a comment on your build.

Reading comprehension? You mean the thing I got an 800 on on the SATs... in sixth grade? That reading comprehension? (hint: I'm not much older now)



And you're senile?
You wrote this:

Quote:
^Your RAM would cost more for four sticks of 1GB each than buying 8GB of RAM in two sticks (DDR3-1600). Also, the PSU is the most important part of the build, thus you should be willing to spend more money on it. I'm not sure it would trump a pre-built since the PSU you have has a high rate of failure.


1. I didn't use 4 1gb sticks in my build, the OP did
2. the PSU I used in that build is a corsair 430w 80plus; the same one i posted in this thread. If you think that has a high failure rate, you think diamond is a soft mineral. More likely you're reading the OP's build again

Hence, you fail at reading comprehension. You attributed the OP'S build to me, and it looks like you STILL havent'a actually looked at *my* build in that thread.

Once again, the $340 build I posted in that thread trounces any pre-built. make sure you're actually looking at my build this time.
a b 4 Gaming
April 18, 2012 2:52:13 AM

ddan49 said:
... you've got an AMD chip, DDR2 800 RAM, and Windows 7 Pro 32-bit! Who do you think you are?!

No, I'm kidding :p 
I get drawn into these things too easily ;) 

(By the way, I'm running on a 1.83 GHz T2400 Dual-Core with 1GB of like DDR-10 RAM (I exaggerated), IGP... my Windows Experience Index is 2.3. Which just shows you don't need to OWN the hardware to be an expert on the hardware)

Haha - I thought someone might catch that comment before I ninja-edited it... :na:  And thanks - I have had no complaints with it at all outside intense games.
April 18, 2012 3:29:52 AM

jessterman21 said:
Haha - I thought someone might catch that comment before I ninja-edited it... :na:  And thanks - I have had no complaints with it at all outside intense games.


That's why I usually don't quote others' posts... to allow for editing :) 
You had a point. Now let me take care of a little something... :whistle: 

quilciri said:
And you're senile?
You wrote this:

Quote:
^Your RAM would cost more for four sticks of 1GB each than buying 8GB of RAM in two sticks (DDR3-1600). Also, the PSU is the most important part of the build, thus you should be willing to spend more money on it. I'm not sure it would trump a pre-built since the PSU you have has a high rate of failure.


1. I didn't use 4 1gb sticks in my build, the OP did
2. the PSU I used in that build is a corsair 430w 80plus. If you think that has a high failure rate, you think diamond is a soft mineral. More likely you're reading the OP's build again

Hence, you fail at reading comprehension. You attributed the OP'S build to me, and it looks like you STILL havent'a actually looked at *my* build in that thread.

Once again, the $340 build I posted in that thread trounces any pre-built. make sure you're actually looking at my build this time.


Geez... what is up with you? Okay, I don't even care all that much! There's a different OP HERE that needs our help! Why are you even getting personal? So I was wrong... I'm helping a lot of people all at the same time (ranked 3rd in April for Systems... joined a month ago). No need to start insulting my... reading comprehension? :heink:  And my... mental health? :heink:  :heink:  I don't know... but seriously. We're done. Don't start flame wars... they don't help anybody. I'm not going to reply to anything else you said/are going to say unless it directly applies to the original post, so cool it.
a b 4 Gaming
April 18, 2012 3:38:51 AM

Interesting that you only say "why are we arguing about this" *after* you've misread and then insisted you didn't misread. You seemed plenty fired up about arguing when you thought you were right. Of course *you're* the victim here. poor you.

I also loved your irrelevant "I post a lot" statistic.

The OP has plenty of options already, cin19's is the best (with a 2nd stick of ripjaws), but a large part of that is a daily deal on newegg, so only a few more hours for that to be viable.
April 18, 2012 3:49:26 AM

TMC, hopefully you're still checking this anyway, as we DO have some relevant info spaced out here and there :) 

A great website to get short-term deals (right when you're about to buy) is slickdeals.net

It's a great website, but most of the deals last around a day. Check the ones with a tag of "computer parts". Usually there'll be some quality parts on massive sales every now and then. cin19's is nice, though... we've got some basic parts laid out. What you want to do with them is your choice... hopefully, slickdeals.net will help (no, I'm not spamming this website. A forum member who I was helping introduced me to it, and it's amazing. It directs to third-party websites like newegg and amazon, so it can't rip you off... it's not a coupon thing, it just shows really steep price drops and sales.)
April 19, 2012 5:17:16 AM

wow that was a lot of argument spam lol. after reading up on intel vs amd, i now want intel. Also, i realize i wont get ultra settings i was misinformed. If i am correct, battlefield 3 needs a quad core processor ( i may want to play that too) . Does the i3 with hyper threading count as 4 cores? to narrow it down, i only need 4gb of ram, a build that plays games on at least medium settings at 35+ fps, and suggestions on where to buy. I live in southern california so if anyone knows of any good places please feel free to share. thanks for everyones' help thus far :) 
a b 4 Gaming
April 19, 2012 7:18:36 AM

2 cores will run BF3 just fine.

@1920, on high settings, 4 cores do perform better than 2, but that's out of budget for this build.

A i3-2120 @$128 will take a prohibitive chunk out of your budget (even a 2100 is $125). after buying decent parts for the rest of the build, you won't be left with enough for a card that can fully use that processor.

A Pentium G series is your best bet. It's still a sandy bridge, socket 1155 chip, so when the times comes to upgrade, you can just pop in an i5 2500k or what-have-you.

If you *absolutely* want 4 cores, AMD is a more practical solution at that budget, but the dual-core G series will give you better gaming performance.

A rule of thumb you can use for a balanced game machine right now (where the processor doesn't hamstring the video card, and the video card fully uses the CPU) is to spend 2-3x as much on your video solution as you do on your processor.
April 19, 2012 12:10:19 PM

TMCxGmr17 said:
wow that was a lot of argument spam lol. after reading up on intel vs amd, i now want intel. Also, i realize i wont get ultra settings i was misinformed. If i am correct, battlefield 3 needs a quad core processor ( i may want to play that too) . Does the i3 with hyper threading count as 4 cores? to narrow it down, i only need 4gb of ram, a build that plays games on at least medium settings at 35+ fps, and suggestions on where to buy. I live in southern california so if anyone knows of any good places please feel free to share. thanks for everyones' help thus far :) 


quilciri is right. Basically, four cores aren't needed right now at this moment... though games are starting to use them more and more. You simply can't afford a four-core Intel CPU, and AMD... well... don't get it because it has four cores. If all you're doing is gaming, then a Pentium is a good idea. However, if you want to do other CPU-intensive things, you may want to use an i3-2120.

Hyper-threading doesn't really count... few applications use it.
a b 4 Gaming
April 19, 2012 1:28:28 PM

quilciri said:
A Pentium G series is your best bet. It's still a sandy bridge, socket 1155 chip, so when the times comes to upgrade, you can just pop in an i5 2500k or what-have-you.

If you *absolutely* want 4 cores, AMD is a more practical solution at that budget, but the dual-core G series will give you better gaming performance.

A rule of thumb you can use for a balanced game machine right now (where the processor doesn't hamstring the video card, and the video card fully uses the CPU) is to spend 2-3x as much on your video solution as you do on your processor.

Totally agree with you - an LGA-1155 Pentium is perfect for this build.

I don't really agree with the 3x on the video card, though... I did that with my rig, and my $65 Athlon II is seriously bringing down my $175 HD 6870 in most games. (My framerates are equal to an HD 6790 most times...)

But the stronger Sandy-Bridge Pentiums will be able to keep up with an HD 6870/GTX 560.
April 20, 2012 4:25:25 AM

would this be good? and what fps and graphics settings would it run on?

intel sandy bridge pentium g850 2.9 ghz cpu (87.99)
Biostar H61MGC LGA 115 motherboard, micro atx (49.99)
4 gb g skill ripjaws 1333 ram (25.99)
EVGA nvidia geforce 550 ti 1 gb (114.99 after MIR)
Seagate Barracuda 500 gb hard drive (79.99)
Raidmax rx500AF 500 watt 80 plus bronze psu (34.99 after MIR), Coolermaster elite 361 case (49.99)

parts off of newegg.com, total is 443.93 after MIR.
a b 4 Gaming
April 20, 2012 2:12:50 PM

TMCxGmr17 said:
would this be good? and what fps and graphics settings would it run on?

intel sandy bridge pentium g850 2.9 ghz cpu (87.99)
Biostar H61MGC LGA 115 motherboard, micro atx (49.99)
4 gb g skill ripjaws 1333 ram (25.99)
EVGA nvidia geforce 550 ti 1 gb (114.99 after MIR)
Seagate Barracuda 500 gb hard drive (79.99)
Raidmax rx500AF 500 watt 80 plus bronze psu (34.99 after MIR), Coolermaster elite 361 case (49.99)

parts off of newegg.com, total is 443.93 after MIR.

Don't waste extra cash on a GTX 550 ti - get a much stronger HD 6850 for barely more. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

To stay closer to budget, you can drop that Pentium to a G620 for $70 (you won't notice a difference). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The best thing with that LGA 1155 socket is you can upgrade in the future to an i7 if you want.
April 20, 2012 8:33:29 PM

so this should be sufficient?

intel pentium g620 2.6 ghz (69.99)
XFX amd radeon hd 6850 w/dirt 3 coupon (119.99)

this takes 12 or 13 dollars off. the new total would be about 430...
April 20, 2012 8:34:22 PM

o forgot asus dvd drive (19.99), so 450 total
April 20, 2012 10:03:12 PM

XFX are sometimes really loud. Where did you find an XFX 6850 for $120??? That's way more than the $135 (w/ rebate) Sapphire I found:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
By the way, Sapphire is a good company, if you want to go that way.

Anyway, it should be fine. All games will be playable, most on medium, some on high. BF3 will probably be set at low-lowmedium, but that's the most taxing game.
a b 4 Gaming
April 20, 2012 10:03:33 PM

Yep that will play all games at high settings @ 1080p. 40+ fps depending on the game.
a b 4 Gaming
April 21, 2012 3:05:56 AM

ddan49 said:
I'm helping a lot of people all at the same time (ranked 3rd in April for Systems... joined a month ago).


Quality over quantity.
April 21, 2012 3:13:52 AM

TMCxGmr17 said:
Approx purchase : 5 weeks from now
Budget: $400-$475 after rebates
System usage: Gaming, Gaming, and gaming
Parts not required: OS, keyboard, mouse, monitor
Website: whatever is the cheapest
Country: US
Parts preferences: AMD CPU, AMD graphics card, g skill ram
Overclocking: NO
SLI/Crossfire: NO
Other notes: nice looking case, possibly micro atx, dont need top of the line i just want to play WOW on ultra and other games like grand theft auto and call of duty on high settings. I have nothing selected yet but i was thinking about the 77.99 amd athlon ii x3 with an asus mATX mobo that unlocks the 4th core. Thanks. :bounce: 



DONT LISTEN TO ATUNZUMAN, i dont care what he says i bought at prebuilt ibuy power for 650$ and i found later that i could have built 5X the computer with the same amount of money....in otherwords, dont do it LOL
April 21, 2012 12:28:03 PM

slomo4sho said:
Quality over quantity.


Go ahead and find something I told the OP that was:
1) incorrect
2) not the best advice I could have given
3) overpriced
4) irrelevant

Arguing with other forum members is not something I spend energy and time on.

Anyway, that'll PLAY any game out there. I don't know about high for GTA or CoD... they are both fairly old, so it'll get medium for sure. The 6850 is a better card than most give it credit for, though.
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