HTPC help i want to buy something good

[dariendelvalle]

ok hello I'm new around here and my English is not the best, I want to buy a HTPC and my dilemma is whether to arm myself one or get one done because I have seen some already built design that attracts me this is the case of

Acer Revo RL100 -u1002

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004X5XVY0/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1PYWJMVQXDN9T5MH84JY&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846


or the case of

Zotac zboxhd i36br3d-plus

http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-ZBOXHD-ID36BR3D-PLUS-PC-Barebone-System/dp/B004VUODNU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1334667836&sr=1-2

those are the two most q attract me, I want the best 3D gaming something very special but I have a samsung smart UN46D7000 and I want to exploit her ability for 3D thanks in advance and sorry for my English I'm new in the states and the google translator helps me PLEASE hELP

 

[gary1]

Wait, you want a HTPC, but use it for gaming?

 

[Tavo_Nova]

well you don't use htpc for 3d gaming or at least the best, it's better to build one and it's called a gaming pc or ethusiast pc whichever you want. give us more info, if you like to crossfire (using more 2 or more graphics cards) or overclock (to increase performance at the cost of the components life time) and what's your budget? is i t the same as those you put in the link?

 

[dariendelvalle]

I do not want to play in 3d just want to be able to watch movies in 3D and also have a good pc q fits all, my budget I do not want to exceed 600. thank you both for responding

 

[dariendelvalle]

Wait, you want a HTPC, but use it for gaming?

no that's not what I want, I want to have a q serve more or less for all, I would like to see 3D movies and games I'm not very demanding on the forum got two of the options I'm looking at I wonder if there better but above that size

 

[dariendelvalle]

well you don't use htpc for 3d gaming or at least the best, it's better to build one and it's called a gaming pc or ethusiast pc whichever you want. give us more info, if you like to crossfire (using more 2 or more graphics cards) or overclock (to increase performance at the cost of the components life time) and what's your budget? is i t the same as those you put in the link?

I do not want a super pc I'm looking for something like what I put in a forum is the Acer Revo and the other is ZOTAC what if I want it to be 3D and games I'm not very picky, but I do not want to freeze watching movies or listening music

 

[Tavo_Nova]

well actually you can build something like a gaming pc for 500-600bucks in usd that can help you watch HD Videos and maybe(maybe) look at 3d games or something but gaming on 3d would be nearly playable just in case you want to know.

oh and just in case you decide to game you should be able to play at 1920x1080 resolution with very playable fps (of course not on the same level as those 500bucks graphics card)



edit: here's a amd build since the dude is looking for one. oh and just choose the sapphire hd 6850 and add in a amd phenom II x4 960T or something and it should perform well.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/342751-31-build-build-choosing-rest-parts#t2570984

should be around 580-620 bucks or something the like before rebate. that is without OS/Monitor/mouse/keyboard/speaker/mousepad/head set/chair/table

add this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
and if you buy it with the combo thingy maybe you don't need to buy a ODD so that shaves off 17.99bucks off your price tag

w/odd = 634.9$ before rebate>604.9$ after rebate
W/o odd = 616.91$ before rebate>586.91$ after rebate

oh this is using the sapphire hd 6850 and this is a single gpu mobo no crossfire.

oh and I'll try and put up an Intel variation for you too.


edit: btw this is the intel variation and a bit more expensive and you can probably cut off prices here and there if you want.

same thing above but the difference is the processor and the mobo.

124.99$ i3 2100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078

104.99$ asrock pro3 gen3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157279

why this?

1st- so you can upgrade it to a i5 2500k or something on ivy bridge when you want to upgrade in the next 2-4 years
and no point going ivy bridge imo just go what comes after ivy bridge once your upgraded i5 2500k after 2-4 years later, (those that are after ivy bridge) since those after ivy bridge should show you much more difference in performance increase.

btw both build include the thermalpase and the aftermarket cooling which you wouldn't need but those fans should help cool the inside of your case.

 

[dariendelvalle]

well actually you can build something like a gaming pc for 500-600bucks in usd that can help you watch HD Videos and maybe(maybe) look at 3d games or something but gaming on 3d would be nearly playable just in case you want to know.

oh and just in case you decide to game you should be able to play at 1920x1080 resolution with very playable fps (of course not on the same level as those 500bucks graphics card)



edit: here's a amd build since the dude is looking for one. oh and just choose the sapphire hd 6850 and add in a amd phenom II x4 960T or something and it should perform well.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/342751-31-build-build-choosing-rest-parts#t2570984

should be around 580-620 bucks or something the like before rebate. that is without OS/Monitor/mouse/keyboard/speaker/mousepad/head set/chair/table

add this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
and if you buy it with the combo thingy maybe you don't need to buy a ODD so that shaves off 17.99bucks off your price tag

w/odd = 634.9$ before rebate>604.9$ after rebate
W/o odd = 616.91$ before rebate>586.91$ after rebate

oh this is using the sapphire hd 6850 and this is a single gpu mobo no crossfire.

oh and I'll try and put up an Intel variation for you too.

thanks friend, then you do not recommend any of the 2 that I have put in my question would be better to build a pc

 

[Tavo_Nova]

yes as the one you put

this for 418$
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004X5XVY0/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1PYWJMVQXDN9T5MH84JY&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846&tag=vglnk-c1001-20

and this for 503.99$
http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-ZBOXHD-ID36BR3D-PLUS-PC-Barebone-System/dp/B004VUODNU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1334667836&sr=1-2&tag=vglnk-c1001-20

look at the first one, this is his specs
Product Features
AMD Athlon II Neo Dual-Core Processor K325 (1.3GHz, 2MB Total Cache)
4GB DDR3 Memory
750GB SATA Hard Drive,Optical Drive Type-DVD-Writer, Optical Media Supported-DVD-RAM/±R/±RW
Integrated NVIDIA Ion Graphics
Windows 7 Home Premium
Processor, Memory, and Motherboard
Processor: 1.3 hertz AMD Athlon
RAM: 4 GB
Memory Slots: 2
Hard Drive
Size: 750 GB
Speed: 5400 rpm
Ports and Connectivity
USB Ports: 3
Cases and Expandability
Size (LWH): 7.09 inches, 11.81 inches, 1 inches
Weight: 2.65 pounds

and the 2nd one this is the specs.
(sorry I can't find it there, but I'll ask Mr. Google he knows alot)
Product Features: Chipset: Intel NM10 Express; Installed Memory: 2 GB (DDR3-SDRAM); Processor: Intel Atom 1.8 GHz; HDD Size: 252 GB; Processor Type: Intel Atom; Max Processors Qty.: 1; Processor Speed: 1.8 GHz; Processor Manufacturer: Intel; Installed Cache Memory: 1 MB; RAM Technology : DDR3-SDRAM; Installed RAM: 2 GB; Max Supported RAM: 4 GB; Integrated Input/Output Ports: 1 x eSATA, HDMI x 1, RJ45 Lan Port x 1, USB 2.0 x 2, USB 3.0 x 2; Hard Drive Interface: Serial ATA; Controller Type: Serial ATA; Hard Drive Capacity : 252 GB; Hard Drive Rotation Speed : 5,400 RPM; Graphic Processor: NVIDIA Ion; Data Link Protocol: Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet, IEEE 802.11b, IEEE 802.11g, IEEE 802.11n; Networking Type: Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card

(this ones a better one)

clearly either of the 2 builds I posted(1 on the other link) and the other is the intel one would beat it not only in gaming at 1920x1080 resolution but also in playing HD video

(the amd one would be closer to the price of those with extra stuff like the thermal paste and the aftermarket cooling) and we can even go lower for the motherboard by using older versions but works wonder for you.

 

[Tavo_Nova]

phenom IIx4 965be and the i3 2100 either of the two vs the first ones athlon II dual core, and 8gb memory from either of my two builds vs 4gb of ether of your listed build. only advantage they have is they got windows 7.
4 ram slots vs 2 ram slots as either of the build I put up there and both has 4 ram slots for more ram just in case you want to go uber and never see your memory usage go above 40% in usual cases.
I'm using 500gb vs their 750gb so it's 250gb higher not much difference. besides I'm using 7200rpm drives and reliable one compared ti a 5400rpm drive which I don't know where they come from.
both should have usb 3.0 from my build so they are a tie over there.
btw the 2nd one is even poor in hard drive capacity (only had 252gb)

only downside is the custom build is bigger but better (the case is actually a mid tower case not really big but at least bigger than those 2)

overall I believe me and a lot of people here would agree that building your own not only gives you experience as well as you might get addicted to it like me.

IMO just add a few more bucks and get a amd build compared to that 500bucks trash, or add a few more bucks and get the blue side, overall to what your doing you won't notice much difference between my 2 builds or if someone has something better to put up here.

but if your comparing the intel and amd build I put above and it will totally destroy those 2 built pc combined ^_^.

Btw in the end it's your call, I do advice you to make it, there won't be much problem, just go youtube.com and type how to build a gaming pc or just PC or look here at toms there should be a guide somwhere,

if anything you need to ask there are thousands of us here willing to answer your questions (depends on the time thought)

Don't worry I your not the only one who has bad english, my grammar is not bad but not good either maybe just normal for people who are "not" up there on the normal english level over all most likely below average but everything is good, we don't have much grammar pricks here at toms as everyone else is very nice and will do their best to understand you at the best of their understanding ^_^

 

[dariendelvalle]

yes as the one you put

this for 418$
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004X5XVY0/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1PYWJMVQXDN9T5MH84JY&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846&tag=vglnk-c1001-20

and this for 503.99$
http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-ZBOXHD-ID36BR3D-PLUS-PC-Barebone-System/dp/B004VUODNU/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1334667836&sr=1-2&tag=vglnk-c1001-20

look at the first one, this is his specs
Product Features
AMD Athlon II Neo Dual-Core Processor K325 (1.3GHz, 2MB Total Cache)
4GB DDR3 Memory
750GB SATA Hard Drive,Optical Drive Type-DVD-Writer, Optical Media Supported-DVD-RAM/±R/±RW
Integrated NVIDIA Ion Graphics
Windows 7 Home Premium
Processor, Memory, and Motherboard
Processor: 1.3 hertz AMD Athlon
RAM: 4 GB
Memory Slots: 2
Hard Drive
Size: 750 GB
Speed: 5400 rpm
Ports and Connectivity
USB Ports: 3
Cases and Expandability
Size (LWH): 7.09 inches, 11.81 inches, 1 inches
Weight: 2.65 pounds

and the 2nd one this is the specs.
(sorry I can't find it there, but I'll ask Mr. Google he knows alot)
Product Features: Chipset: Intel NM10 Express; Installed Memory: 2 GB (DDR3-SDRAM); Processor: Intel Atom 1.8 GHz; HDD Size: 252 GB; Processor Type: Intel Atom; Max Processors Qty.: 1; Processor Speed: 1.8 GHz; Processor Manufacturer: Intel; Installed Cache Memory: 1 MB; RAM Technology : DDR3-SDRAM; Installed RAM: 2 GB; Max Supported RAM: 4 GB; Integrated Input/Output Ports: 1 x eSATA, HDMI x 1, RJ45 Lan Port x 1, USB 2.0 x 2, USB 3.0 x 2; Hard Drive Interface: Serial ATA; Controller Type: Serial ATA; Hard Drive Capacity : 252 GB; Hard Drive Rotation Speed : 5,400 RPM; Graphic Processor: NVIDIA Ion; Data Link Protocol: Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet, IEEE 802.11b, IEEE 802.11g, IEEE 802.11n; Networking Type: Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card

(this ones a better one)

clearly either of the 2 builds I posted(1 on the other link) and the other is the intel one would beat it not only in gaming at 1920x1080 resolution but also in playing HD video

(the amd one would be closer to the price of those with extra stuff like the thermal paste and the aftermarket cooling) and we can even go lower for the motherboard by using older versions but works wonder for you.

sorry friend but in the end what is your recommendation that did not understand well what is best for you or if there is something better these two basically the intereza me most is the heart of the PC, as the components then you can make upgrades, but how are you mini pc the mother board is integrated with the microprocessor that is what most interests me discover something really worthwhile

 

[Tavo_Nova]

hmm if you want to build a mini pc then I suggest something like this. as it should be cheaper and performs better. and has integrated graphics on the processor/

give me a second and i'll look at newegg (those are just reference btw) once you've decided I'll help look at amazon for it with you.

 

[dariendelvalle]

hmm if you want to build a mini pc then I suggest something like this. as it should be cheaper and performs better. and has integrated graphics on the processor/

give me a second and i'll look at newegg (those are just reference btw) once you've decided I'll help look at amazon for it with you.

por alguna casualidad hablas español

 

[Tavo_Nova]

Processor: 139.99$
AMD A8-3870K Unlocked Llano 3.0GHz Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 6550D AD3870WNGXBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106001

Motharboard: 64.99$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157261

Memory: 44.99$
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231546

Graphics Card: 74.99$>59.99$ after rebate (you don't need this but if you want better graphics you can add this one as with this the graphics power performs much better than most lower end intel who uses lower end gpu)
SAPPHIRE 100326DDR3L Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102952

Hard Disk Drive: 79.99$
Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181

Optical Disk Drive: 17.99$
ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Power Supply: 59.99$>49.99$
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

Case: 29.99$
Rosewill R102-P-BK 120mm Fan MicroATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147111

437.93$
427.93$ after rebate

and this is even better than the pre built above (btw I Didn't include the GPU,Thermal paste,aftermarket cooling) as you won't need them there.

ok now since I did notice it just a moment ago maybe you Didn't live in US or somewhere else, i'll cook up in amazon and try to find you the best bang for buck much better than the 2 posted above.

 

[dariendelvalle]

Processor: 139.99$
AMD A8-3870K Unlocked Llano 3.0GHz Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 6550D AD3870WNGXBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106001

Motharboard: 64.99$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157261

Memory: 44.99$
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231546

Graphics Card: 74.99$>59.99$ after rebate (you don't need this but if you want better graphics you can add this one as with this the graphics power performs much better than most lower end intel who uses lower end gpu)
SAPPHIRE 100326DDR3L Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102952

Hard Disk Drive: 79.99$
Samsung by Seagate Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181

Optical Disk Drive: 17.99$
ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Power Supply: 59.99$>49.99$
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

Case: 29.99$
Rosewill R102-P-BK 120mm Fan MicroATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147111

437.93$
427.93$ after rebate

and this is even better than the pre built above (btw I Didn't include the GPU,Thermal paste,aftermarket cooling) as you won't need them there.

ok now since I did notice it just a moment ago maybe you Didn't live in US or somewhere else, i'll cook up in amazon and try to find you the best bang for buck much better than the 2 posted above.

yes man i am in miami but i am cuban

 

[Tavo_Nova]

lol I noticed how come I see ram sticks of kingston 8gb of 1600mhz for 90dollars? lol that's overpriced unless I'm not viewing it right
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=amb_link_6488902_10?ie=UTF8&sort=reviewrank&ref=c3_nav_dtMem&rh=n%3A172503%2Cp_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-2&pf_rd_r=02EP48MZC7AKZ8HXMEZG&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1346075322&pf_rd_i=193870011#/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=node%3D172503&field-keywords=ddr3+1600&rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Addr3+1600


wait for a moment i'm still looking around for great deals on amazon as seeing you would be buying there

 

[dariendelvalle]

lol I noticed how come I see ram sticks of kingston 8gb of 1600mhz for 90dollars? lol that's overpriced unless I'm not viewing it right
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=amb_link_6488902_10?ie=UTF8&sort=reviewrank&ref=c3_nav_dtMem&rh=n%3A172503%2Cp_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-2&pf_rd_r=02EP48MZC7AKZ8HXMEZG&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1346075322&pf_rd_i=193870011#/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=node%3D172503&field-keywords=ddr3+1600&rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Addr3+1600


wait for a moment i'm still looking around for great deals on amazon as seeing you would be buying there

man dou you speak spanish

 

[Tavo_Nova]

Processor: 139.99$
AMD APU A8 3870K (has great amd integrated graphics)
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-A8-3870K-Graphics-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B006J420UE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1334674801&sr=1-1

Motharboard: 64.99$
http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-MB-A75MHVS-Socket-USB3-0-Motherboard/dp/B0058HBO46/ref=sr_1_9?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1334674810&sr=1-9

Memory: 45.99$
Kingston Technology HyperX 8 GB (2x4 GB Modules) 1600 MHz DDR3 (finally found a better one)
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Technology-Modules-KHX1600C9D3K2-8GX/dp/B0037TO5C0/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1334676560&sr=1-7

Graphics Card: 74.99$
Sapphire 6670
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-HD6670-PCI-Express-Video/dp/B005HH35KS/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1334675959&sr=1-4

Hard Disk Drive: 79.99$
seagate barracuda 500gb 7200rpm
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST500DM005/dp/B002J65AHQ/ref=sr_1_12?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1334674835&sr=1-12

Optical Disk Drive: 19.99$
Samsung Dvd Drive
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SH-222BB-BEBE-Internal-Software/dp/B006B7R9PU/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1334674857&sr=1-5

Power Supply: 52.24$
Corsair CX500 500Watts
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-500-Watt-Certified-Compatible-Platforms/dp/B004W2T2U6/ref=sr_1_9?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1334674848&sr=1-9

Case: 34.99$
Rosewill Micro ATX Case
http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-R102-P-BK-120mm-MicroATX-Computer/dp/B004FWJ34S/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1334675385&sr=1-7

this one has 1 thing you don't need which is the sapphire 6670 because your processor have good graphics already.

total = 513.17$ on amazon and now I will not include the sapphire 6670 because you don't need it.

if you remove the sapphire 6670 graphics card you get a total of 438.18$ from amazon



note: the memory I picked is not the best because I'm having trouble choosing memory there and their search is not helping much.
you need a windows 7 home edition (don't use 32bit but use 64bit when installing windows 7, you will see it when you install)

I'm quite shocked to see amazon prices to be very high although it's price are even lower compared to where I live (on most parts)

 

[dariendelvalle]

Best answer selected by dariendelvalle.

 

[Tavo_Nova]

btw get this if you don't have windows 7

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q0PT3I/ref=s9_simh_bw_p65_d0_g65_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=12G92KX1JBVR334P41W9&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1341187182&pf_rd_i=229534

for 99.99$

 

[Tavo_Nova]

processor = 139.99$
motherboard = 64.99$
RAM = 45.99$
Power Supply = 52.24$
Case = 34.99$
Hard Disk = 79.99$
Disk drive = 19.99$

total = 438.18$

add Windows 7 Home Premium = 99.99$

Total =538.17$

links are above.