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April 17, 2012 4:09:00 PM

I want to get my brother a nice birthday gift, and aside from just being an upgrade from his current one (he's using some old dell pos) I wanted to get him one he can develop with. I'm looking for a simple build with components that allow expansion, but also offers a good experience.

Approximate Purchase Date: This week

Budget Range: $850 (usd) Maximum

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Quality gaming, Movies, web surfing

Parts Not Required: I've a spare Corsair CX430 PSU
Preferred Website: Newegg

Country: USA

Overclocking, SLI/Crossfire: Not Immediately, but needs to be available

Additional Comments: I'm not a complete noob when it comes to assembling/installations, but the more compatible the better.


Items I have in mind:

Cooler Master HAF 912
Asrock P67 Extreme4 Gen3
i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1 ghz

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April 17, 2012 4:22:34 PM

i5 2500k (got K on it meaning you can overclock it whenever you want)
cm hyper 212 evo/plus cpu cooler.
asrock z68 extreme3 gen 3
cooler master haf 912
sapphire hd 6850/6870/7850/7870
samsung drive
23" samsung monitor 1920x1080
windows7 home premium

I'll try putting up links later after I'm done listing this build.
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April 17, 2012 4:40:38 PM

I don't think you can keep that power supply and realistically consider any SLI/Crossfire option.

The HAF 912 is great @ $50
I would grab a Cosair 750W @ $130
ASrock P67 Extreme4 @ $150
i5-2400 @ $190
any combo DVD @ $20
any 8GBRAM 2x4 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ) @ $43
250GB WD Blue ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ) @ $70
GTX 460 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ) @ $160 before $20 rebate = $140
Windows Home Premium OEM = $99

Comes in at $892, but will give your bro a decent gaming experience. Does he need a monitor?

Again, that PSU is not enough for an SLI or Xfire setup and you expressed the need for it to be available.
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April 17, 2012 4:47:13 PM

To allow future expansion to max, I agree with Tavo-Nova on 2500K and Z68. The biggest mistake in my build was 2400 on H67 MB, which is perfectly fine at the moment but there is no room to expand for CPU department. Don't get me wrong, I still like my build 8 months later, and I'm talking about only expansion allowance here, not current performance.

If you will overclock/SLI, you need more juice from PSU. It seems that many people here recommend at least 600W. Make sure the PSU has good rating, enough ampere, and SLI-ready cabling.

Hyper 212 is awesome, and even if you don't overclock now, still it's much better than stock cooler.

For the case, you may want to consider your brother's design preference. If he is a minimalist, I recommend Antec Three Hundred Two. My Three Hundred lacks cable management, which is the only complaint of mine, but the version two provides a basic cable management.

For graphics card, you need to ask him what kind of game he wants to play and on what graphics quality. For something like Diablo 3, you don't need the latest card, but just a decent GTX 5xx or HD 68xx. For more demanding 3D games like Skyrim, you can look for over GTX 560 Ti or HD 6850. Since the new generation cards from both camps are high-end only at the moment, unless you plan to have multi-display setup, you don't need to look at them.

For Windows 7, grab a student version if you can. It's a lot cheaper.
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April 17, 2012 5:07:13 PM

Processor: 219.99$
Intel i5 2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: 104.99$
ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: 44.99$
G.SKILL Ares 8GB (2X4GB) 1600Mhz CL9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card: 149.99$>134.99$
Sapphire HD 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Disk Drive: 79.99$
Samsung spinpoint F3 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Disk Drive: 13.99$
Samsung DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Power Supply: 89.99$>79.99$ after rebate
Corsair TX650 V2 650W 80PLUS Bronze
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Chassis: 59.99$>49.99$ after rebate
Cooler Master Haf 912 Mid Tower Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


OS: 99.99$
Windows 7 Home Premium
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: 34.99$>29.99$ after rebate
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total = 898.9$
858.9$ after rebate
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April 17, 2012 5:10:51 PM

btw my build above that is concidering you don't have an OS as this is what you wrote

"I've a spare Corsair CX430 PSU "javascript: validform(this);

also you might not have a monitor and we need adjustment to the build to an i3 2100. i drop down the psu and gpu to 6870 and 650W to fit in that home premium just in case you got no os.

btw we can easily stretch it out. don't worry. it's just a small reference to give you a good idea.


edit: just in case you got monitor/keyboard/mouse/headset/os/speaker already (tell us if you don't have at least if you got no monitor,keyboard,mouse,headset or speaker)(maybe your using a laptop ^_^)

I posted something here on this thread maybe you like one of them. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/342779-31-gaming-desk...

Processor: 189.99$
intel i5 2400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: 121.99$
asrock z68 extreme3 gen3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: 44.99$
g.skill ares 8gb 2x4gb 1600mhz cl9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card: 249.99$
sapphire hd 7850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Disk Drive: 79.99$
samsung spinpoint f3 500gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Solid Slate Drive: 145.99$
crucial m4 128gb ssd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Disk Drive: 13.99$
samsung dvd burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: 89.99$>79.99$ after rebate
corsair tx650 V2 650W 80plus bronze
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Chassis: 59.99$>49.99$ after rebate
cm haf 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: 996.91$
after rebate = 976.91$


BUILD 2



this is the 2nd version which is much cheaper and should be able to run you great at 1920x1080 resolution

Processor: 124.99$
Intel i3 2100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: 104.99$
ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: 44.99$
G.SKILL Ares 8GB (2X4GB) 1600Mhz CL9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Card: 179.99$>169.99$ (this one got 12$ off promo code it's such a steal)
Sapphire HD 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Disk Drive: 79.99$
Samsung spinpoint F3 500GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Disk Drive: 13.99$
Samsung DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: 89.99$>79.99$ after rebate
Corsair TX650 V2 650W 80PLUS Bronze
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Chassis: 59.99$>49.99$
Cooler Master Haf 912 Mid Tower Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total = 698.92$
668.92$ after rebate

the 2nd one using an i3 2100 can also be upgrade to i5 2500k or the i5/i7 ivy bridge, and so is the 1st one, both have upgrade options in the next 2-3 years if you want


IMO this is not a fixed build, it's very flexible and also gives you a great idea on which one you want to cut off in price or add in price IMO for crossfire/sli option I promt at least 750W psu for more headroom and 850 for mostly bigger headroom, but 650W should be fine but it's quite packed there.(not like you would draw out 650W from the wall) just make sure those A's have enough power.
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April 17, 2012 5:16:46 PM

Hmmm, a HD7850 should run on that PSU.
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April 17, 2012 5:17:11 PM

Tavo nova thats the best damn build thats hit this thread yet! only problem... his budget can't go over 800.
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April 17, 2012 5:34:21 PM

yeah sadly but that can be fixed by removing the SSD on the other build with SSD. and insteado f i5 2400 for 189.99$ at newegg, if he can go to microcenter and buy a i5 2500k for 179.99$ (for me this is worth it) then he is solved.

at least compare it to my local shop
1 U.S. dollar = 42.6348327php
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=9381159
Promo Cash Only: php9,990 (IF i pay in cash) = 234.50$
Regular Price : 12,010 (If I pay in credit card) = 281.92$
it has promo but if we buy it with promo we have to pay
a. Intel i5 2500K unlocked @10500 = 246.47$

lol take a look at this crap
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=16283967
gtx680 asus and reference card for 29500php = 692.48$ (now this is unreasonable)

ok back to topic,

if that build above 900bucks, if he were to go with 6870 sapphire he can drop it down to his affordable price or even the 6850 (but it would lower performance)

btw if my calculations are right, if he remove the awesome crucial m4 128gb ssd he would get this total.

850.92$ before rebate
930.92$ after rebate

but sadly crucial m4 128gb is too awesome, I can barely look at it being removed but well it's TS's money and choice.

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April 17, 2012 5:42:02 PM

My apologies, all I need is the pc. I have the peripherals, and a 16:9 res monitor.

And just to clarify, I don't need it to Crossfire/SLI or overclock "out of the box". I just need the components capable of doing so. My brother (he's autistic) won't have a clue how to do any of this, and I just want the option available.

That being said, will my psu make the computer work? I know for advanced computing it will need a hell of a lot more power, but if I can use my resources to get better performing components now and upgrade whatever else is needed later then I'm going to do that.
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April 17, 2012 6:03:38 PM

We understand that you don't need such feature right now. However, when you indicate that you want "components capable of doing so", you are asking for parts that can handle such things if demanded. All the recommendations above are based on that idea.

For example, non-K version CPU cannot be overclocked, whether out of box or in the future. With P or Z board, limited overclock is possible, though. If you want full-potential overclock, you need K version. For a motherboard to be capable of Crossfire/SLI in the future, not now, still it has to have at least 2 PCIe 2.0/3.0 x 16 connectors, even if you will leave one empty. For PSU, with 460W, crossfire/SLI/overclock can be unstable, or downright impossible depending on configuration. With that in mind, again, if you need components to be capable of handling such future needs, you have to have those features already integrated, albeit not utilized now. Otherwise, you have to buy new components later when you want to upgrade the performance of the system.

Since I didn't plan CPU overclock, which now I regret for the future, not now, and SLI, which I still don't plan, I chose non-K cpu with H67 board. This configuration has completely blocked any improvement in CPU department. Also there is no possibility of Crossfire/SLI.
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April 17, 2012 6:41:43 PM

I don't think you necessarily have to plan for an overclock. I don't overclock my CPU and with my 2 680s, I get framerates similar to those in every 680 SLI review I see.

If you know your brother is not going to be doing this, you don't have to plan for it. I don't see it as necessary if you buy equipment outright that gets you where you're going.

With that ASrock motherboard your considering, your brother could always upgrade to a 2700k if he were so inclined at some point and overclock the hell out of it with a water system or other refrigerant of some type, but like you said, he's most likely not going to go there. I still can't recommend a decent card that will work with that power supply.

You could go with the corsair builder 500 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ) and run with the GTX 460 which requires a 450W supply. Basically you need around 13-14A available on the 12V rail for the 460 and at least an additional 12A-16A plus for your processor (about 8A-10A) and other devices.

I'd still upgrade the power supply, but if you know you're not going to SLI anything right away, you could forgo the expense of an SLI capable PSU for this build and substitute a builder 500 @ $60. Putting $70 back into your pocket from my original figure=$822.
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April 18, 2012 3:12:55 AM

well if you are sure you will never regret getting the 2500K go for he i5 2300 or i5 2400 cpu much cheaper.

also go with corsair builder series like the corsair cx500 it's cheap on newegg or the corsair cx600 if you want a little more headroom.

for the sli part you can always choose a board which only lets you put 1 graphics card. it makes things cheaper without sacrificing the graphics card and lets you stay at the 7850 range.

but for the cpu don't count your eggs yet, even at stock clock the i5 2500k is still better, even if you don't overclock you won't lose anything.

it's better to cheap out on the z68 and get a z68 that has 1 slot or less which should make it go down the price but if you look at what I put above, just by removing the SSD, your brother can get this.

i5 2500k
cpu cooler
hdd
mobo
psu
gpu
case
everything else actually just not the ssd for 850bucks after rebate.
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