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April 17, 2012 6:22:50 PM

This is my first computer build and im trying to go for something that will mainly run D.A.W.s programs and the programs associated with it for producing music, and a little (or alot) of world of warcraft every now and then. My only 2 concerns right now are the processor and cooling fan. For the processor i am wondering if i should do the 8 core that i have in the cart that only does 3.1 ghz or would it be more beneficial to go with a 4 core that does 3.7 ghz? The software that i run has multiple programs linked to one central program and im wondering if for the multitasking if 8 cores would be over kill and if i would really feel the speed difference between the two. My concern for the fan is if it is really necessary but for $27 its not really a big deal just an inquiry. Eventually i will plan on adding a video card, sound card and probably more ram but for now i didnt want to skimp on the main components. Thanks for any help and suggestions :D  my shopping cart is linked below
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April 17, 2012 6:38:23 PM

tazer101 said:
This is my first computer build and im trying to go for something that will mainly run D.A.W.s programs and the programs associated with it for producing music, and a little (or alot) of world of warcraft every now and then. My only 2 concerns right now are the processor and cooling fan. For the processor i am wondering if i should do the 8 core that i have in the cart that only does 3.1 ghz or would it be more beneficial to go with a 4 core that does 3.7 ghz? The software that i run has multiple programs linked to one central program and im wondering if for the multitasking if 8 cores would be over kill and if i would really feel the speed difference between the two. My concern for the fan is if it is really necessary but for $27 its not really a big deal just an inquiry. Eventually i will plan on adding a video card, sound card and probably more ram but for now i didnt want to skimp on the main components. Thanks for any help and suggestions :D  my shopping cart is linked below
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Sub...

April 17, 2012 6:42:50 PM

You need to fix your link - it just links to the shopping cart.
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April 17, 2012 6:52:29 PM

Its not letting me edit the post for some reason so i have it here:

ASUS 24X DVD Burner
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COOLER MASTER Elite 430
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SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM
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CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W
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CORSAIR XMS3 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3
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ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
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April 17, 2012 6:53:30 PM

Or he needs to pass the cookie... :) 
April 17, 2012 6:54:52 PM

That processor will not work with that motherboard. Get the 2500K @ $220 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... ).

Everything else is decent. That case surprised me when I put a build together recently. It's a pretty good smaller mid tower with decent airflow. The fans are a little loud, but that's what you get in that price range. No big deal. That Hyper 212 is a great cooler at a low price. This is why it sells so well.

The onboard video is decent on the 2500k, but you won't be playing many games with it. I really don't think you'll like WoW with the lack of video capability if it even runs, but your plan is to get the video card in the future. If you have the patience, great.

Everything else looks fine for what your trying to do. I built a proTools-based DAW on a 1366 platform that works great so on that newer 1155 platform it should run just fine. Even though it's not extremely video intensive, some DAW software does have a minimal video card capability requirement though. Most of the required cards are very low-level though (ie I'm using a Geforce 210 @ $20-30 in my DAW).

Everything looks good. You're just lacking the video capability and you should get the processor I've listed above (2500k) or get a 2600k if you have the cash as it will help even further with production of your compositions. When you want to get a little more serious about gaming, consider a GTX 460 or better ($150+).
April 17, 2012 6:56:40 PM

ubercake said:
That processor will not work with that motherboard.

How can i tell what processor will be compatible to a mother board? sorry for the stupid questions im very new to this
April 17, 2012 6:57:09 PM

ubercake said:
That processor will not work with that motherboard.


Plus the FX-8150 isn't a good choice anyways. What's the budget on this build? I see no GPU as well - that's something you will definitely need.

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How can i tell what processor will be compatible to a mother board? sorry for the stupid questions im very new to this


Match the socket on the box of the CPU to the socket indicated on the motherboard. FX will require socket AM3+, Sandy Bridge will require socket LGA 1155, and so on.
April 17, 2012 7:00:48 PM

With the mother board you have selected, go with the core i5 2500k ( or 2550k ). As for the hex cores, they are mostly useless as there isn't much if anything that benefit from using one.
April 17, 2012 7:03:10 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Plus the FX-8150 isn't a good choice anyways. What's the budget on this build? I see no GPU as well - that's something you will definitely need.

My budgets around $800-$900 what would be a better alternative to the fx-8150?
April 17, 2012 7:09:00 PM

tazer101 said:
How can i tell what processor will be compatible to a mother board? sorry for the stupid questions im very new to this


That Asrock MoBo has the socket LGA 1155 for intel processors. The one you chose is an AM3+ socket processor. Just make sure that the chip matches the socket in the mobo (e.g. LGA 1155 processor to an LGA 1155 MoBo).
April 17, 2012 7:11:11 PM

I updated my post above. Check it out.
April 17, 2012 7:29:16 PM

ubercake said:
I updated my post above. Check it out.

Awesome! thanks for the help :)  ill go with the 15 2500k and just shell out the extra $150 for a nice video card to just so its all there
April 17, 2012 7:39:34 PM

One more thing to consider is most audio recording/production software works best if you run it from one hard drive and record to another drive. You should have a second drive exclusively for recording your music.
April 17, 2012 8:17:00 PM

tazer101 said:
My budgets around $800-$900 what would be a better alternative to the fx-8150?


The Intel Core i5-2500K would be ideal but if you get that on a $900 budget you're not going to get any good GPU to go with it. The i5-2400 is an excellent bang-for-buck option - it lacks an unlocked multiplier which means you can't overclock but that probably isn't a big deal to you, I'm guessing.

Try this setup:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $59.99
PSU: Seasonic M12 II 620W - $89.99
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Pro 4 - $110.99
CPU: 3.1GHz Intel Core i5-2400 - $189.99
RAM: 8GB G.Skill Ripjaw X 1600MHz 1.5V - $46.99
HD: 500GB Seagate Caviar Blue 7200 RPM - $79.99
Optical: Lite on Bulk DVD Burner - $17.99
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 - $249.99

Total: $854.92

With this setup you get the 2400 and a really killer GPU and you don't have to sacrifice anything. Add a windows license and monitor, keyboard, etc and you're good to go.
April 19, 2012 12:56:31 AM

g-unit1111 said:
The Intel Core i5-2500K would be ideal but if you get that on a $900 budget you're not going to get any good GPU to go with it. The i5-2400 is an excellent bang-for-buck option - it lacks an unlocked multiplier which means you can't overclock but that probably isn't a big deal to you, I'm guessing.

Try this setup:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $59.99
PSU: Seasonic M12 II 620W - $89.99
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Pro 4 - $110.99
CPU: 3.1GHz Intel Core i5-2400 - $189.99
RAM: 8GB G.Skill Ripjaw X 1600MHz 1.5V - $46.99
HD: 500GB Seagate Caviar Blue 7200 RPM - $79.99
Optical: Lite on Bulk DVD Burner - $17.99
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 - $249.99

Total: $854.92

With this setup you get the 2400 and a really killer GPU and you don't have to sacrifice anything. Add a windows license and monitor, keyboard, etc and you're good to go.


Whats the benifite to over clocking and how hard would it be to upgrade my processor if i wanted to upgrade t the 2500k?

April 19, 2012 1:02:13 AM

tazer101 said:
Whats the benifite to over clocking and how hard would it be to upgrade my processor if i wanted to upgrade t the 2500k?


It's actually really easy - it's just basic math. You set your memory multiplier to one level, your voltage to another, and your CPU multiplier to another and that's it. If you get a motherboard with a graphical UEFI interface you can set speeds with a few clicks. It may take a couple of tries to get a stable setting but it's mainly trial and error.

You need a good heat sink to achieve speeds higher than 4.2GHz but even say a Hyper 212 Evo won't be that much - it's only like $35.
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