Card help GTX 460 Oc or 550 Ti CU?

[InsidiouSFoX]

hi everyone have been away from comp gaming for quite a while around 2 years...swtor and Cs:go are getting me back into it(YAY). i would really just like to play newer games on ultra settings(starcraft,swtor,league of legends,Cs:Go,etc...) i know they're not the most demanding games and the two cards i picked might be overkill for my system and for the games i play...but i dont want to upgrade for at least another year or two and these cards sound perfect for me to do that and i need an honest opinion

so my comp specs are as followed:
Win 7 64-bit
intel core 2 quad q8200: 2 cpu @ 2.33GHz
6GB ram
Nvidia 9500 GT 512mb
2 500Gb HDDs
350w upgrading to at least 500w
47" 3d tv... i know i know 47" with a 9500...playing swtor on1280x720 with medium settings i want to do 1920x1080 on high.

the budget i choose was 160$... $200 including the power supply, which i found for $40(all canadian $ Btw)
any help or info on what i should do would be much appreciated thx!

 

[mubin]

Hi, Between gtx460oc and 550ti, of course gtx 460 oc. 460 is faster than 550ti without oc.

 

[PaperBoy]

Well my I suggest to you this combo -

PSU - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63238&vpn=P1450SX2B9&manufacture=XFX

GPU - http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66291&vpn=H685QNT1GD&manufacture=HIS&promoid=1029

 

[PaperBoy]

GTX 460 OC (1GB 256-bit) will smash the GTX 550 Ti (1GB 192-bit) quite handily.
$200 might get you a HD 6870, look for one of those as an alternative.
I'd pass on the HD 6850 and go GTX 460 OC or GTX 560 over it.

but the GTX 550 Ti is NOT a gaming card, I have one in more of a HTPC unit.

6850 is better than GTX 460 plus it only takes one 6pin

 

[InsidiouSFoX]

thank you so far. "the GTX 550 Ti is NOT a gaming card, I have one in more of a HTPC unit"
very helpful. leaning alot more towards the 460 normal or OC now, but do you dont think its overkill at all... or does it sound pefect for what im asking?
for my specs will it "bottleneck" or anything like that?

Love the Yoda avatar BTW!!!

 

[PaperBoy]

slow down.
your right on the 1 6-pin plug but depending on the model GTX 460 it can be better and
I have one that is better.
I have proven this several times, so back to the thread and OP..
thanks.

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/graph-01.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/graph-04.jpg

How bought some non Nvidia biased and optimized pumping Nvidia benchmark suites.

 

[PaperBoy]

OP GTX 460 no longer or limited available and 6850 pulls ahead of it in gaming but in Nvidias own benchmark suites they make there own cards look better naturally.

 

[InsidiouSFoX]

its a prebuilt HP that came with a 9400 or 9800 gs...if i remember right(2years ago...)9500gt was a free upgrade from a buddy so i could play source games nicely.

 

[PaperBoy]

anyways, staying on topic which is the OP's thread........
(argue with yourself, that's not why we're here. let's agree to disagree. move on).

OP - what model HP because of that case might be of hindrance, you already know about the power supply upgrade needed.

Why rip off OP and try and sell him on an inferior card that is only better in it's own tailor made and optimized synthetic benchmarks and not in most games overall in real time gaming situations. Sorry but GTX 460 is a good card but not good enough to recommend over a 6850 that I may add is cheaper and will be far more available.

 

[PaperBoy]

let's agree to disagree. move on....
AGAIN.
(showing your immaturity)

Admit that you misinformed OP about the value and performance of GTX 460

 

[InsidiouSFoX]

yea i kinda figured that with my case. it is the pavilon elite m9425f. getting the 9500 in was a lil squeeze but its mostly the way they wrap the power supply cords around the card down to my fans... i figured the new power supply should have nicer-longer cords to play with(hopefully)

 

[PaperBoy]

yea i kinda figured that with my case. it is the pavilon elite m9425f. getting the 9500 in was a lil squeeze but its mostly the way they wrap the power supply cords around the card down to my fans... i figured the new power supply should have nicer-longer cords to play with(hopefully)

The PSU I recommended will do you well it is 80+ Bronze and enjoys great user acclaim and I have use one they are solid.

 

[PaperBoy]

no, you are....
and for someone who doesn't even list his hardware, you lack validity..

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/HD6800-OC-62.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/HD6800-OC-69.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/HD6800-OC-74.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/HD6800-OC-78.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/HD6800-OC-42.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/HD6800-OC-48.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/HD6800-OC-55.jpg

ALL of those games are Nvidia Sponsored titles bud try again.

 

[InsidiouSFoX]

not the most computer savvy sry... does that mean itll take up two slots on my motherboard or out the back? the 9500 only takes up one out the back but i have two more slots above it. will it take up two slots going upwards or downwards?wish i could send a pic on here i have two that i took

 

[PaperBoy]

FYI

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_r6850_cyclone/5.htm

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_r6850_cyclone/7.htm

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_r6850_cyclone/11.htm

 

[PaperBoy]

Naturally Nvidia sponsored games will favor GTX 460 a bit but 6850 is a stronger card just artificially crippled by Nvidia in games like Lost Planet etc So if OP plays Starcraft and Lost Planet than mabye a Green card will be a better choice for him but if OP plays many games and not just Nvidia pumping ones 6850 is better.

YOUR PROPAGANDA WILL NOT FOOL ME !

 

[PaperBoy]

thread:
Card help GTX 460 Oc or 550 Ti CU?

It obvios that OP is open to suggestions beings he states a budget of $200

 

[PaperBoy]

and the HD 6870 or the GTX 560 falls in that category, question is with that besides power supply is can he fit it into his case because of the length...?

OP needs an PSU and GPU within his specified $200 max budget.

 

[InsidiouSFoX]

as long as the new supply has longer(or at least neater) cords i think i should be fine they built a nice cranny in the middle of the case for cordage. more worried about height/width than lengh honestly. thanks for all the help everyone... definatly coming back here.

and for the little tiff ^ there... im picking Nvidia over raedon because ive always been a Nvidia guy and they are super easy for me to find in my city without ordering.

 

[PaperBoy]

as long as the new supply has longer(or at least neater) cords i think i should be fine they built a nice cranny in the middle of the case for cordage. more worried about height/width than lengh honestly. thanks for all the help everyone... definatly coming back here.

and for the little tiff ^ there... im picking Nvidia over raedon because ive always been a Nvidia guy and they are super easy for me to find in my city without ordering.

Not being a fan boy here or anything cause I run a GTX 460 myself but a GTX 460 might be hard to find cause they are discontinued and 6850 only takes one 6pin

 

[PaperBoy]

I'm just a messy sarcastic a** who is really just having fun...

remember:
modular power supply.!

How does OP fit a decent modular PSU and GTX 460 into his $200 max budget ?

 

[InsidiouSFoX]

"may the CUDA be with you..." ahaha
i cant wait to start up Swtor when this is all done. thx for all the help mal,paper,everyone else...
"It obvious that OP is open to suggestions beings he states a budget of $200"
yes i am open to other suggestions just after a decent talk with my buddy it boiled down to these two for what i wanted/needed...(roughly 2yr life,wont blow up my pc lol,and will play around high/ultra at 1920x1080 on a 47")

 

[PaperBoy]

"may the CUDA be with you..." ahaha
i cant wait to start up Swtor when this is all done. thx for all the help mal,paper,everyone else...
"It obvious that OP is open to suggestions beings he states a budget of $200"
yes i am open to other suggestions just after a decent talk with my buddy it boiled down to these two for what i wanted/needed...(roughly 2yr life,wont blow up my pc lol,and will play around high/ultra at 1920x1080 on a 47")

SWTOR like Radeon cards FYI

 

[InsidiouSFoX]

and if anyone is wondering the store im shopping at thats in my city is memoryexpress.com throw out any suggestions from there if u like.

 

[AxemanACL]

OP: I personally love my MSI Twin Frozen GTX460. I currently have it overclocked above the 560 factory superclocked versions (a 560 is just an optimized/overclocked 460, so I believe you can compare clock speeds directly.) For your information I can run Skyrim with default textures at 60fps easily. With Battlefield 3 I get 35-45fps on high graphics settings, and 55-65 on medium settings. (I have a OC'd Q6600 at 3.0Ghz, and 4GB DDR2 ram.)

In my opinion grabbing a overclocked/superclocked version of a 460 or 560, and then overclocking the crap out of it seems like a good plan. The OC/SC cards in general have better coolers on them, allowing you to reach higher overclocks.

Since they are "dual slot" cards, they will take up two slots in the back of your case, the one in line with the PCI-E slot and the one below it. This also means that it will take up some extra room below the PCI-E slot on the motherboard, meaning you may not have room for a PCI card directly below it(I'm not sure your motherboard layout).

EDIT:
I just checked the website you linked, it looks like it only sells the weaker 192 bit GTX 460's. I'm retracting my recommendation of those 460's at least. You want the 256 bit one.

If we have to hold to a $160 budget for the graphics card from memory express, the best I see is the Gigabyte 6850 for $140. If you are willing to bump up to $170, the Asus 6850 becomes an option (it isn't quite as fast, but I feel more comfortable buying Asus than Gigabyte, I personally have had bad luck with Gigabyte products). Their is a Gigabyte 560 available for $170 as well.

Really I think you would be happy with any of those, any of them are going to be a huge jump in performance.