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Card help GTX 460 Oc or 550 Ti CU?

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February 9, 2012 5:31:44 PM

hi everyone have been away from comp gaming for quite a while around 2 years...swtor and Cs:go are getting me back into it(YAY). i would really just like to play newer games on ultra settings(starcraft,swtor,league of legends,Cs:Go,etc...) i know they're not the most demanding games and the two cards i picked might be overkill for my system and for the games i play...but i dont want to upgrade for at least another year or two and these cards sound perfect for me to do that and i need an honest opinion

so my comp specs are as followed:
Win 7 64-bit
intel core 2 quad q8200: 2 cpu @ 2.33GHz
6GB ram
Nvidia 9500 GT 512mb
2 500Gb HDDs
350w upgrading to at least 500w
47" 3d tv... i know i know 47" with a 9500...playing swtor on1280x720 with medium settings i want to do 1920x1080 on high.

the budget i choose was 160$... $200 including the power supply, which i found for $40(all canadian $ Btw)
any help or info on what i should do would be much appreciated thx!

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February 9, 2012 5:43:57 PM

Hi, Between gtx460oc and 550ti, of course gtx 460 oc. 460 is faster than 550ti without oc.
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February 9, 2012 5:59:25 PM

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GTX 460 OC (1GB 256-bit) will smash the GTX 550 Ti (1GB 192-bit) quite handily.
$200 might get you a HD 6870, look for one of those as an alternative.
I'd pass on the HD 6850 and go GTX 460 OC or GTX 560 over it.

but the GTX 550 Ti is NOT a gaming card, I have one in more of a HTPC unit.

6850 is better than GTX 460 plus it only takes one 6pin
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February 9, 2012 6:06:30 PM

thank you so far. "the GTX 550 Ti is NOT a gaming card, I have one in more of a HTPC unit"
very helpful. leaning alot more towards the 460 normal or OC now, but do you dont think its overkill at all... or does it sound pefect for what im asking?
for my specs will it "bottleneck" or anything like that?

Love the Yoda avatar BTW!!!
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February 9, 2012 6:22:24 PM

OP GTX 460 no longer or limited available and 6850 pulls ahead of it in gaming but in Nvidias own benchmark suites they make there own cards look better naturally.
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February 9, 2012 6:22:49 PM

its a prebuilt HP that came with a 9400 or 9800 gs...if i remember right(2years ago...)9500gt was a free upgrade from a buddy so i could play source games nicely.
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February 9, 2012 6:27:24 PM

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anyways, staying on topic which is the OP's thread........
(argue with yourself, that's not why we're here. let's agree to disagree. move on).

OP - what model HP because of that case might be of hindrance, you already know about the power supply upgrade needed.

Why rip off OP and try and sell him on an inferior card that is only better in it's own tailor made and optimized synthetic benchmarks and not in most games overall in real time gaming situations. Sorry but GTX 460 is a good card but not good enough to recommend over a 6850 that I may add is cheaper and will be far more available.
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February 9, 2012 6:34:25 PM

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let's agree to disagree. move on....
AGAIN.
(showing your immaturity)

Admit that you misinformed OP about the value and performance of GTX 460
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February 9, 2012 6:36:33 PM

yea i kinda figured that with my case. it is the pavilon elite m9425f. getting the 9500 in was a lil squeeze but its mostly the way they wrap the power supply cords around the card down to my fans... i figured the new power supply should have nicer-longer cords to play with(hopefully)
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February 9, 2012 6:45:34 PM

InsidiouSFoX said:
yea i kinda figured that with my case. it is the pavilon elite m9425f. getting the 9500 in was a lil squeeze but its mostly the way they wrap the power supply cords around the card down to my fans... i figured the new power supply should have nicer-longer cords to play with(hopefully)

The PSU I recommended will do you well it is 80+ Bronze and enjoys great user acclaim and I have use one they are solid.
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February 9, 2012 6:46:34 PM
February 9, 2012 6:47:31 PM

not the most computer savvy sry... does that mean itll take up two slots on my motherboard or out the back? the 9500 only takes up one out the back but i have two more slots above it. will it take up two slots going upwards or downwards?wish i could send a pic on here i have two that i took
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February 9, 2012 6:55:48 PM

2560205,25,644818 said:


Naturally Nvidia sponsored games will favor GTX 460 a bit but 6850 is a stronger card just artificially crippled by Nvidia in games like Lost Planet etc So if OP plays Starcraft and Lost Planet than mabye a Green card will be a better choice for him but if OP plays many games and not just Nvidia pumping ones 6850 is better.

YOUR PROPAGANDA WILL NOT FOOL ME !
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February 9, 2012 7:00:21 PM

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thread:
Card help GTX 460 Oc or 550 Ti CU?

It obvios that OP is open to suggestions beings he states a budget of $200
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February 9, 2012 7:03:17 PM

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and the HD 6870 or the GTX 560 falls in that category, question is with that besides power supply is can he fit it into his case because of the length...?

OP needs an PSU and GPU within his specified $200 max budget.
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February 9, 2012 7:03:34 PM

as long as the new supply has longer(or at least neater) cords i think i should be fine they built a nice cranny in the middle of the case for cordage. more worried about height/width than lengh honestly. thanks for all the help everyone... definatly coming back here.

and for the little tiff ^ there... im picking Nvidia over raedon because ive always been a Nvidia guy and they are super easy for me to find in my city without ordering.
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February 9, 2012 7:08:39 PM

InsidiouSFoX said:
as long as the new supply has longer(or at least neater) cords i think i should be fine they built a nice cranny in the middle of the case for cordage. more worried about height/width than lengh honestly. thanks for all the help everyone... definatly coming back here.

and for the little tiff ^ there... im picking Nvidia over raedon because ive always been a Nvidia guy and they are super easy for me to find in my city without ordering.

Not being a fan boy here or anything cause I run a GTX 460 myself but a GTX 460 might be hard to find cause they are discontinued and 6850 only takes one 6pin
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February 9, 2012 7:14:48 PM

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I'm just a messy sarcastic a** who is really just having fun...

remember:
modular power supply.!

How does OP fit a decent modular PSU and GTX 460 into his $200 max budget ?
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February 9, 2012 7:14:56 PM

"may the CUDA be with you..." ahaha
i cant wait to start up Swtor when this is all done. thx for all the help mal,paper,everyone else...
"It obvious that OP is open to suggestions beings he states a budget of $200"
yes i am open to other suggestions just after a decent talk with my buddy it boiled down to these two for what i wanted/needed...(roughly 2yr life,wont blow up my pc lol,and will play around high/ultra at 1920x1080 on a 47")
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February 9, 2012 7:17:01 PM

InsidiouSFoX said:
"may the CUDA be with you..." ahaha
i cant wait to start up Swtor when this is all done. thx for all the help mal,paper,everyone else...
"It obvious that OP is open to suggestions beings he states a budget of $200"
yes i am open to other suggestions just after a decent talk with my buddy it boiled down to these two for what i wanted/needed...(roughly 2yr life,wont blow up my pc lol,and will play around high/ultra at 1920x1080 on a 47")

SWTOR like Radeon cards FYI
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February 9, 2012 7:18:21 PM

and if anyone is wondering the store im shopping at thats in my city is memoryexpress.com throw out any suggestions from there if u like.
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February 9, 2012 7:18:27 PM

OP: I personally love my MSI Twin Frozen GTX460. I currently have it overclocked above the 560 factory superclocked versions (a 560 is just an optimized/overclocked 460, so I believe you can compare clock speeds directly.) For your information I can run Skyrim with default textures at 60fps easily. With Battlefield 3 I get 35-45fps on high graphics settings, and 55-65 on medium settings. (I have a OC'd Q6600 at 3.0Ghz, and 4GB DDR2 ram.)

In my opinion grabbing a overclocked/superclocked version of a 460 or 560, and then overclocking the crap out of it seems like a good plan. The OC/SC cards in general have better coolers on them, allowing you to reach higher overclocks.

Since they are "dual slot" cards, they will take up two slots in the back of your case, the one in line with the PCI-E slot and the one below it. This also means that it will take up some extra room below the PCI-E slot on the motherboard, meaning you may not have room for a PCI card directly below it(I'm not sure your motherboard layout).

EDIT:
I just checked the website you linked, it looks like it only sells the weaker 192 bit GTX 460's. I'm retracting my recommendation of those 460's at least. You want the 256 bit one.

If we have to hold to a $160 budget for the graphics card from memory express, the best I see is the Gigabyte 6850 for $140. If you are willing to bump up to $170, the Asus 6850 becomes an option (it isn't quite as fast, but I feel more comfortable buying Asus than Gigabyte, I personally have had bad luck with Gigabyte products). Their is a Gigabyte 560 available for $170 as well.

Really I think you would be happy with any of those, any of them are going to be a huge jump in performance.
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February 9, 2012 7:27:22 PM

InsidiouSFoX said:
and if anyone is wondering the store im shopping at thats in my city is memoryexpress.com throw out any suggestions from there if u like.

Or you going to Memory cause you can drive there and get her all done in a day cause if NCIX is near you or you can wait for the shipping NCIX has better pricing and selection but Memory Express is all good to I shopped there in Edmonton North and South many times it's my favorite store LOL.
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February 9, 2012 7:31:03 PM

PaperBoy. Those benchmarks you linked. I'd like to know how someone managed to get an EVGA GTX460 to o/c to 895/1023. It must get hot as hell!
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February 9, 2012 7:33:23 PM

DelroyMonjo said:
PaperBoy. Those benchmarks you linked. I'd like to know how someone managed to get an EVGA GTX460 to o/c to 895/1023. It must get hot as hell!

Which one I linked a 6850 Cyclon Radeon not GTX 460
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February 9, 2012 7:36:30 PM

DelroyMonjo said:
PaperBoy. Those benchmarks you linked. I'd like to know how someone managed to get an EVGA GTX460 to o/c to 895/1023. It must get hot as hell!


My MSI twinforzen II GTX460 is overclocked to 900/1050, and never gets above 62C, when running at 100%. The fan never gets above 50% for me. Granted it is a beast of a cooler.
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February 9, 2012 7:37:50 PM

PaperBoy said:
Or you going to Memory cause you can drive there and get her all done in a day cause if NCIX is near you or you can wait for the shipping NCIX has better pricing and selection but Memory Express is all good to I shopped there in Edmonton North and South many times it's my favorite store LOL.


haha yea basically its easy and they are decently cheap(my fav store too lol) im planning to buy it there and my friend is going to put it all together for me while i watch and hopefully learn...but the research is very tedious so i came here.
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February 9, 2012 7:39:22 PM

I play SW:TOR with 2 GTX-460 (1gig) in SLI and I run everything on ultra with zero lag.
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February 9, 2012 7:43:15 PM

InsidiouSFoX said:
haha yea basically its easy and they are decently cheap(my fav store too lol) im planning to buy it there and my friend is going to put it all together for me while i watch and hopefully learn...but the research is very tedious so i came here.

My best day at Memory Express South Edmonton location was in 06 or 07 or when the 8800GTX launched and when I picked up my pre ordered Nvidia 8800GTX 768mb world first DX10 card $700 paid cash and all the staff treated me like a king and admired I had the funds for a GTX 8800 they were just like oh my god hail thee 8800GTX and so was I then I load Crysis 1 and got 8fps LOL
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February 9, 2012 7:47:08 PM

xaephod said:
I play SW:TOR with 2 GTX-460 (1gig) in SLI and I run everything on ultra with zero lag.


that doesnt help me...that just tells me u play swtor on ultra with no lag on 2 gfx cards...im not even that comp savvy and i know thats overkill for swtor,u could run one and have 0 lag...which is what i want to accomplish
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February 9, 2012 7:49:18 PM

PaperBoy said:
My best day at Memory Express South Edmonton location was in 06 or 07 or when the 8800GTX launched and when I picked up my pre ordered Nvidia 8800GTX 768mb world first DX10 card $700 paid cash and all the staff treated me like a king and admired I had the funds for a GTX 8800 they were just like oh my god hail thee 8800GTX and so was I then I load Crysis 1 and got 8fps LOL


ahahaha 8Fps story of my life...have had crysis for like 4 years now still cant max the setting out hopefully the card i get fixes that lol
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February 9, 2012 7:49:52 PM

Well a few weeks ago I played it on my spare computer which uses a 8800GT and a Q6600 and it ran fine on average settings. So, I think one GTX460 will run it very well.
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February 9, 2012 7:56:33 PM

InsidiouSFoX said:
ahahaha 8Fps story of my life...have had crysis for like 4 years now still cant max the setting out hopefully the card i get fixes that lol

Here is a good Bench and review video UNsubjective just cold hard facts the way it is let me now what you think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eMGqg8k-h0
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February 9, 2012 7:57:34 PM

xaephod said:
Well a few weeks ago I played it on my spare computer which uses a 8800GT and a Q6600 and it ran fine on average settings. So, I think one GTX460 will run it very well.


thank you, thats much better at least now i can see u were/ have in the same situation...and u were giving me your 2 cents.
i can run it decent in 720 on high, minus the shadows/bloom,but go inside a building and she slows right down.
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February 9, 2012 8:08:05 PM

InsidiouSFoX said:
thank you, thats much better at least now i can see u were/ have in the same situation...and u were giving me your 2 cents.
i can run it decent in 720 on high, minus the shadows/bloom,but go inside a building and she slows right down.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/star-wars-gaming-te...
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February 9, 2012 8:30:04 PM

wow u guys are awesome, giving me alot to think about. paperboy thx for the vids they were great and with the swtor graphs thats perfect, just what i was looking for but didnt know it yet lol. .
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February 9, 2012 8:49:59 PM

Best answer selected by InsidiouSFoX.
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February 9, 2012 8:56:20 PM

InsidiouSFoX said:
hi everyone have been away from comp gaming for quite a while around 2 years...swtor and Cs:go are getting me back into it(YAY). i would really just like to play newer games on ultra settings(starcraft,swtor,league of legends,Cs:Go,etc...) i know they're not the most demanding games and the two cards i picked might be overkill for my system and for the games i play...but i dont want to upgrade for at least another year or two and these cards sound perfect for me to do that and i need an honest opinion

so my comp specs are as followed:
Win 7 64-bit
intel core 2 quad q8200: 2 cpu @ 2.33GHz
6GB ram
Nvidia 9500 GT 512mb
2 500Gb HDDs
350w upgrading to at least 500w
47" 3d tv... i know i know 47" with a 9500...playing swtor on1280x720 with medium settings i want to do 1920x1080 on high.

the budget i choose was 160$... $200 including the power supply, which i found for $40(all canadian $ Btw)
any help or info on what i should do would be much appreciated thx!

Well don't cry when down the road you find out you will have been better off going with a more up to date than GTX 460 card LOL good day peace.
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February 20, 2012 12:11:51 AM

I have EVGA 460 SC's SLI'ed and clocked to 840/1680/2000 and can go toe to toe with a 580. But then there's that pesky PSU problem. Unigine 2.5 68FPS 1713 score
2500K@4.5GHZ.
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