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July 31, 2012 6:27:25 AM

At the moment i have a 1100t processore oc'ed to 4ghz and was thinking about getting a new FX chip.
The FX-4170 seemed to make the most since because i really only play games and would not need more than 4 cores however the other option i would get is the FX-6200 which is 6 cores but at a lower speed. the 6 cores would help with my other programs in the background like antivirus skype and itunes which i uasually always have up howwever idk if this would be a fast enough processor.
i would be hoping to overclock it to atleast 4.6ghz
I have been told that my 1100t really bottlenecks my crossfired 2 6950's and was wondering if this would aleviate that bottleneck?


Any opinions, expierences, and comparisons with these chips would be greatly appreciated :) 

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July 31, 2012 6:30:24 AM
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Any FX CPU would be a downgrade not an upgrade from an 1100T for anything. Anyone who told you that about bottlenecking would make me stick my head out the door if they told me its raining outside.
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July 31, 2012 7:54:42 AM

Whoever told you that is bottle necking is a retarded muppet.

As nekulkturny says ANY FX chip would be a downgrade.
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July 31, 2012 9:31:24 AM

Not only is the 1100t OCd to 4.0 ghz a mighty fine CPU, but it will also leave all the FX chips trailing in its wake and even show a clean pair of heals to some of the stock clocked intel offerings, as for bottle knecking 2 6950s, not a chance buddy, and even if it was slightly, then the FX will just make matters worse.

Its more likely that your just suffering from typical Xfire incompatibility woes and micro stutter, you would be much better off keeping the 1100t, selling the 2 6950s and buying a single HD 7970, or even a GTX 670.
July 31, 2012 4:00:03 PM

Alright thank you very much for your answers.
in a thread i made a while back most people where telling me i would have to switch to intel to get the full performance out of my 2x 6950's which i thought was ridiculous. My frames in crysis 2 and bf3 have been stellar despite the fact, but i was being told i would see a 15% performance increase if i switched to a faster intel chip oce'd to like 4.6ghz -_-
Mostly i was looking for a performance boost in sc2 the most cpu demanding game i own but of course it only uses 2 cores... so the best i could do is try oc to where i can keep turbo on or disable a couple cores possibly.
thanks again for your quick and knowledgable input!
July 31, 2012 4:00:21 PM

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August 3, 2012 7:41:33 AM

If you upgraded to an Intel Chip you might still run into problems like shuddering or what not. The i7 over the 1100T wouldn't be much of an upgrade, and I wouldn't wast the money for it. Wait till later on like end of this year or 2013 to upgrade if there is anything worth it. Don't let anyone say that the 1100T is weak or a bottleneck.

Mess with the drivers to fix micro shuddering.
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August 3, 2012 8:46:27 AM

You basically have your answer but why on earth would you give up the ol hammer when there is nothing wrong with it other than memory bandwidth.
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August 3, 2012 8:56:16 AM

Yeah keep it its a decent CPU, i have a real love for mine and runs any and all games combined with my GTX580.
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August 3, 2012 10:44:12 AM

All I can say is, if you decide to ditch your 1100T, I'll gladly take it off your hands.
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August 3, 2012 10:47:18 AM

nekulturny said:
All I can say is, if you decide to ditch your 1100T, I'll gladly take it off your hands.

YEAH ! give it to the nice pussy cat.
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August 3, 2012 12:36:22 PM

Uther will know too the only thing the X6 is slower on is memory bandwidth but there is absolutely nothing this chip cannot do that a new chip Intel or AMD does. It was critisized on its release for flogging a dead horse architecture, only for a year later to find just how good it actually was. Honestly you can't do much better than the ol hammer.
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August 3, 2012 5:51:00 PM

sarinaide said:
Uther will know too the only thing the X6 is slower on is memory bandwidth but there is absolutely nothing this chip cannot do that a new chip Intel or AMD does. It was critisized on its release for flogging a dead horse architecture, only for a year later to find just how good it actually was. Honestly you can't do much better than the ol hammer.


To be honest, if he thinks that the memory bandwidth is a problem, Just OC the CPU-NB clock, might help with his stuttering (damn auto correct). He would see a decent inprovment if he clocked it to 2600 - 2800mhz without much of a voltage bumb. I upped my 1100T 4.ghz cpu-nb to 2925mhz 1.3v and I gained an extra 10fps in ArmA II Benchmark 1 test.
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August 3, 2012 5:58:34 PM

OK who wants to start an 1100t fan club, or maybe an X6 fan club.
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August 3, 2012 6:01:15 PM

If someone gives me one I'd join. I still kick myself every now and then. At the time 1100Ts were still available on newegg when I bought my 975 Deneb. I guess it really doesn't matter with what my computer usage habits are. Just a coulda/shoulda/woulda thing.
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August 3, 2012 6:09:08 PM

Uther39 said:
OK who wants to start an 1100t fan club, or maybe an X6 fan club.


Lol, wasn't there already 1 on Tom's?

nekulturny said:
If someone gives me one I'd join. I still kick myself every now and then. At the time 1100Ts were still available on newegg when I bought my 975 Deneb. I guess it really doesn't matter with what my computer usage habits are. Just a coulda/shoulda/woulda thing.


The 975 is still great CPU, Clocks great from what I'v read. Not to much uses six cores yet, I bought my 1100T to run a home server type deal I got going and to do all my gaming needs. If I didn't do much of home server I would of been on my old Phenom II x4 940.
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August 3, 2012 6:13:51 PM

nekulturny said:
If someone gives me one I'd join. I still kick myself every now and then. At the time 1100Ts were still available on newegg when I bought my 975 Deneb. I guess it really doesn't matter with what my computer usage habits are. Just a coulda/shoulda/woulda thing.



I have 3 still on my shelves, if you were UK id sell you one for cost price.
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August 3, 2012 6:19:29 PM

We need the X6 club, there is something nostalgic about having this beast of burden.
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August 3, 2012 6:29:51 PM

I would love to have an 1100T. That processor is probably AMD's best desktop processor. I definitely would rather have an 1100T over an FX chip.
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August 3, 2012 6:59:53 PM

sarinaide said:
We need the X6 club, there is something nostalgic about having this beast of burden.


If someone makes 1, im in!
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August 3, 2012 7:05:12 PM

sign me up I may not have the Rolls Royce 1100T but I got the Boy Racer 1600T (complete with go-faster stripe)
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August 3, 2012 7:22:19 PM

wr6133 said:
sign me up I may not have the Rolls Royce 1100T but I got the Boy Racer 1600T (complete with go-faster stripe)


1600t defo qualify too, just for the effort to get them there.
October 1, 2012 12:57:42 PM

Uther39 said:
OK who wants to start an 1100t fan club, or maybe an X6 fan club.

Love my 1100t but keep seeing stuff about 1600t? how do we get a 1600t? Is it an overclocked 1100t please explain if anyone knows
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no problem mate wr6133 told me all about 1600t's but thanks anyway
October 1, 2012 1:05:09 PM

wr6133 said:
sign me up I may not have the Rolls Royce 1100T but I got the Boy Racer 1600T (complete with go-faster stripe)

what is a 1600t? I have an 1100t can i make it into a 1600t? or is 1100t better. Never heard of a 1600t now seeing them in peoples specs write ups all over the place :( 
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October 1, 2012 1:41:04 PM

It's a 960T that successfully unlocked
October 1, 2012 4:33:00 PM

wr6133 said:
It's a 960T that successfully unlocked

Thanks for your fast reply
so it's unlocked to a 6 core but with faster clock speed than 1100t right? What clock speed? and which is best standard 1100t or unlocked 960t/1600t? gonna try OC my 1100t again when my Zalman Z11 plus case arrives :) 
Temps were too high I think co's cit mars case is too small and hyper 212 barely fits inside
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October 1, 2012 7:06:10 PM

At unlock it has the speed of a 960T I can get mine up to 4GHz though on a 212 with some work you should hopefully get yours to 4.0GHz thats a reasonably common figure for Phenom II's. 1100T is in theory better as my 960T was deactivated down to 4 cores so sometimes the 2 extra cores are faulty sometimes they are not faulty and were done to meet demand for X4's. I amongst others was lucky and they were not faulty meaning essentially its the same (all the thubans 1045t 1055t 1090t 960t 1100t are the same silicone).
October 2, 2012 2:27:33 AM

wr6133 said:
At unlock it has the speed of a 960T I can get mine up to 4GHz though on a 212 with some work you should hopefully get yours to 4.0GHz thats a reasonably common figure for Phenom II's. 1100T is in theory better as my 960T was deactivated down to 4 cores so sometimes the 2 extra cores are faulty sometimes they are not faulty and were done to meet demand for X4's. I amongst others was lucky and they were not faulty meaning essentially its the same (all the thubans 1045t 1055t 1090t 960t 1100t are the same silicone).

wow, interesting
So what temps are you running at 4.0ghz with when stressed ie prime or 100% usage? would like to know co's want to do mine but am worried about going too hot and damageing it. I am waiting for my Zalman Z11 before I try co's little room in my cit case as I said before.

But the Zalman looks like it has plenty of room and nice large fans all over. So what temps should i be worried about when trying to get stable with prime? may want more help with my O'C co's when I have tried it has been a bitch and when overclocked was booting up with only 5 core's showing in CPU'Z which scared me so hope I never damaged anything. at stock all 6 cores are back and it's stable.
Is It normal for it to have the cores missing on a bad overclock attempt or is it a big "that shouldn't be happening" I hope not lol maybe i just needed more voltage or the CPU NB O'C'd I am a noob but have common sense so shouldn't have put it under any major stress (he says) lol

So why does it get a higher number than mine then lol will my 1100t be called a 1600t when it's running at 4.0ghz if not what's different if they are essentially the same chip at same speed they should be both same (1600t) right? confusing otherwise lol
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October 2, 2012 8:42:07 AM

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/343245-10-club

This is an old dead thread for advice you should post in the one I just linked more people are likely to respond.

You should be keeping your CPU under 60

Losing a core is odd. Were you OC'ing from, the BIOS (good) or software (Bad), you will find to get stable OC's your going to need to raise the NB 2600 (or more) is a ballpark figure gor 4GHz OC's

1100T/1600T etc... its just names assigned means nothing

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October 2, 2012 12:40:17 PM

Keep the Chip under 62c and all is good, rule of thumb is to keep it below 55c, But if you don't see instability at 57 - 59c the I wouldn't worry to much, even 65c is fine as long as it stable. In reality these chips can take a heck of a lot more heat then 62c and still operate just fine, but can reduce the life span. But I mean who's going to keep this CPU for more then say 10 years, I know I wont, There will be 20 core 8ghz CPU by then, lol.

AMD likes cold!! Cooler you run it, the more stable the Chip will probably be. If you stress it and it hits 60C and its not stable, don't add more vcore, that might make things worse stability wise. My old Phenom II x4 940 would shutdown at 70c, so I would think thats the same with these 6 cores, unless the bios some how bypasses that, still not a good idea. My 940 hit 65c all day everyday playing BF3 at 4ghz for almost 4 years, and the thing is still going even at 4ghz as a server PC. Do I recommend going 65c, heck no, lol. But I have nothing to lose with that build now.

This is the 4.2ghz I run on my 1100t 24/7 and has been working and running good ever since, not errors in even log related to the CPU, and 6 hours stable primed. No need to stress it longer. Took for ever to get my ram stable at 1800mhz. http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2461122
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