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April 18, 2012 5:44:16 AM

I was planning on purchasing my build many months ago and made some forums here for help and got lots of responses and a good understanding of what to buy. Lot's of time has passed and now I am seriously 100% guaranteed going to buy everything by the end of July because I will have the money to do so. However since then there have been the release of the new nVIDEA 600 serious (although I don't believe you can buy anything yet) and Intel's 7-series chips, and probably even more new stuff but that's all I know about.

So with all this new stuff I really don't know what to look for anymore. I'm starting from scratch.

My budget is $1,200, although if I had to I could wait another month and it can go to $1,500.

What will I be using this new system for?

- Lot's and lot's of gaming, on the highest possible settings, with 0 lag, 0 frame rate drop
- Virtual DJ software
- Video editing (I have CyberLink Power director on this PC although haven't used it yet)
- Video recording (fraps, etc)
- Voice recoring
- Coding, 3D modeling, programming with java, basically making video games (something I plan on getting heavily into)
- Maybe watching a movie here and there

Parts I don't need would only be the case, which I have sitting in a corner collecting dust:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

I live in Canada, right near a bunch of NCIX's and even the Direct Canada hardware place (although I don't believe you can go there and buy stuff) is very close to me. I bought my case at the NCIX. I don't know if just going to an NCIX store would be better than dealing with let's say Newegg who apparently has excellent customer service. Plus I wonder which has better waranties etc just in case a part is DOA or something.

I would prefer if I didn't have to overclock anything, I don't want to go through the hassle also I've never done it before, and I'd have to get a CPU cooler fan etc.

SLI or crossfire; I would prefer to start off with a single powerful card, then when graphical requirements in the future get higher than my card can handle I'll get another one.

In terms of monitor resolution, well the bigger the resolution the better the detail, so I would say the bigger the better, although nothing really exceeding "24 because those are around $200 and anything more expensive than that may exceed my budget. Plus my desk is fairly small and don't want a huge screen close to my face ruining my eyesight.

I was looking at this I think awhile ago: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Additional information: Good brands and new fancy technology is a plus. For example, before I prefered the Z68 chipset since it was the newest and best, however with the release of new chipsets I'm not quite sure. Important: if the newer (usually more expensive) version does not affect the performance of the system, or does not help me in any way considering what I will be using the system for, then don't recommend the new parts.

Thanks and pelase help me out!!!

P.S. I have been a nVIDEA and intel guy for a very long time and have not even scratched the surface with AMD or RADEON! What is the main differences and which is better or which brand would help me out more? Thanks.

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April 18, 2012 5:53:06 AM

thetechnoobguy said:
I was planning on purchasing my build many months ago and made some forums here for help and got lots of responses and a good understanding of what to buy. Lot's of time has passed and now I am seriously 100% guaranteed going to buy everything by the end of July because I will have the money to do so. However since then there have been the release of the new nVIDEA 600 serious (although I don't believe you can buy anything yet) and Intel's 7-series chips, and probably even more new stuff but that's all I know about.

So with all this new stuff I really don't know what to look for anymore. I'm starting from scratch.

My budget is $1,200, although if I had to I could wait another month and it can go to $1,500.

What will I be using this new system for?

- Lot's and lot's of gaming, on the highest possible settings, with 0 lag, 0 frame rate drop
- Virtual DJ software
- Video editing (I have CyberLink Power director on this PC although haven't used it yet)
- Video recording (fraps, etc)
- Voice recoring
- Coding, 3D modeling, programming with java, basically making video games (something I plan on getting heavily into)
- Maybe watching a movie here and there

Parts I don't need would only be the case, which I have sitting in a corner collecting dust:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

I live in Canada, right near a bunch of NCIX's and even the Direct Canada hardware place (although I don't believe you can go there and buy stuff) is very close to me. I bought my case at the NCIX. I don't know if just going to an NCIX store would be better than dealing with let's say Newegg who apparently has excellent customer service. Plus I wonder which has better waranties etc just in case a part is DOA or something.

I would prefer if I didn't have to overclock anything, I don't want to go through the hassle also I've never done it before, and I'd have to get a CPU cooler fan etc.

SLI or crossfire; I would prefer to start off with a single powerful card, then when graphical requirements in the future get higher than my card can handle I'll get another one.

In terms of monitor resolution, well the bigger the resolution the better the detail, so I would say the bigger the better, although nothing really exceeding "24 because those are around $200 and anything more expensive than that may exceed my budget. Plus my desk is fairly small and don't want a huge screen close to my face ruining my eyesight.

I was looking at this I think awhile ago: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

Additional information: Good brands and new fancy technology is a plus. For example, before I prefered the Z68 chipset since it was the newest and best, however with the release of new chipsets I'm not quite sure. Important: if the newer (usually more expensive) version does not affect the performance of the system, or does not help me in any way considering what I will be using the system for, then don't recommend the new parts.

Thanks and pelase help me out!!!

P.S. I have been a nVIDEA and intel guy for a very long time and have not even scratched the surface with AMD or RADEON! What is the main differences and which is better or which brand would help me out more? Thanks.


First off, I'm just going to say this, with a budget of 1200$, and 200$ reserved for a monitor, you will not be pleased with the system according to your usage.

Yes, Intel's Ivy Bridge is coming out next week, and nVidia is going to release the rest of the 6xx cards. However, Ivy Bridge may have problems, so you should look out, and TSMC (supplier for nVidia and AMD) is having trouble supplying chips, so the 6xx cards are getting delayed. The main difference between Intel and AMD is that Intel crushes AMD in gaming, period. AMD and nVidia trade blows in video card performance.

Again, I just want to reiterate that you will not be pleased with the performance of a 1000$ build if you want to play on the highest settings, with 0 lag, and 0 frame rate drop.

July is much too far away also. Wait a month or two and see what goodies they bring.
April 18, 2012 6:57:03 AM

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http://www.directcanada.com

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This build allows you to add another one of those cards in the future.

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OCZ ZS Series 750W ATX12V V2.2 24PIN ATX SLI Ready 80PLUS Bronze Performance Power Supply 135mm Fan

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Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Z77DDR3 3PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 HDMI CrossFireX/SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard

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Intel i5-3750K Ivy Bridge CPU 3.4Ghz

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Intel i7-3770K Ivy Bridge CPU 3.5Ghz

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Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366/1155/1156/2011 120MM

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Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 2X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 1.5V CL9 Dual Channel Memory Kit

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ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

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Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 64MB SATA 6Gbps 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive - OEM

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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT SP1 DVD OEM

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ASUS ML228H 21.5IN Widescreen LED Backlit LCD Monitor Black 1920X1080 2MS 10M:1 HDMI DVI-D VGA

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ASUS Radeon HD 7850 860MHZ 2GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD5693&v... $353.98
ASUS Radeon HD 7870 1000MHZ 2GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD8406&v... $352.80
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 OC 1100MHZ 2GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 DVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card

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April 18, 2012 4:29:02 PM

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you will not be pleased with the system according to your usage.


Well, I'm mainly going to be gaming on it. Virtual DJ is a guarantee, I will be using that program, although I don't need much to run it: http://www.virtualdj.com/products/virtualdj/index.html (scroll down to PC system requirements). Video editing and video game programming are things I wish to try out, nothing too hardcore, and if I get into then I may make improvements to my PC accordingly. I'm pretty sure my budget is good enough to run the newest games max settings no lag, I mean, I'm getting like $300 GPU and $250+ processor, I don't think I would need the $500 cards etc to get what I'm asking for. Plus, I can always SLI or crossfire in the future if I notice any performance problems, although I highly doubt I will.


Alright so all that together plus the i7 3770K and the ASUS 7870 Radeon card total to $1404.87, (without HST) or if I wanted the cheaper card and CPU it would go to around $1,200. Would the $350 card make a big difference between the other? Also which one should I go for? The gigabyte card looks to be better than the ASUS one. Also I've never dealt with AMD Radeon cards, what would be the difference between these and a GeForce GTX 570 or maybe one of the new 6xx series cards. Also, would I need the hyperthreading on the i7?
April 18, 2012 4:32:24 PM

thetechnoobguy said:
So with all this new stuff I really don't know what to look for anymore. I'm starting from scratch.


It would be a waste of time to put together a build 3 months before a buy date. ANy recommendation made today would be substantially obsolete in 3 months.
April 18, 2012 4:36:37 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
It would be a waste of time to put together a build 3 months before a buy date. ANy recommendation made today would be substantially obsolete in 3 months.


Good point, so should I just ignore this thread/ get it closed and then 4 months from now re-open it?
April 18, 2012 4:43:30 PM

thetechnoobguy said:
Good point, so should I just ignore this thread/ get it closed and then 4 months from now re-open it?

Just start a new thread about a week before you plan on purchasing.
April 18, 2012 4:47:48 PM

Why_Me said:
Just start a new thread about a week before you plan on purchasing.


This.

I found that sometimes you will come across deals while you are waiting that will perfectly fit your needs and save you a few bucks then do it. Personally it took me about half a year to build my system (reused an AMD system till I fully replaced everything)

Pretty much take whatever build suggestions you get right now as a template for what you should look for while your buy date comes up normally. Sometimes like now for instance with Ivy Bridge and new Nvidia cards coming out soon it makes it much harder to recommend things.
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