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Gtx 560ti still a viable card ?

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I'm planning my build . Ive planned ( till this point ) to go with a gtx 560 ti to begin with and buy another to sli when finances permitted . But is the 560ti going the way of the dinosaur . I read some disparaging remarks to that effect in a thread . So is it still a good choice or save up a bit longer and go for a 570 or bigger ? all thots appreciated :sweat:

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It's still a viable card, but if you can wait you might be better served waiting a month until AMD's 7xxx series midrange cards come in and (possibly) nVidia's 6xx series midrange cards come in.

If you do that, you'll probably get GTX 570+ performance at current GTX 560ti prices.

If you can't wait, the 560ti is a fine card for $205 (last price I remember seeing it for on newegg).

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560ti is a good mid range card today and it will remain a good card for another 2 years before it really starts to struggle in some new games. 560ti SLI will be golden @ 1080P or under for at leased another 2 years or a bit longer in most games.

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rufus_22 wrote :

I'm planning my build . Ive planned ( till this point ) to go with a gtx 560 ti to begin with and buy another to sli when finances permitted . But is the 560ti going the way of the dinosaur . I read some disparaging remarks to that effect in a thread . So is it still a good choice or save up a bit longer and go for a 570 or bigger ? all thots appreciated :sweat:



as of today its radeon counter part is cheaper.

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Im 3 months away from the gpu purchase as things look now so maybe that will play in my favor . Where I'm planning to wc the gpu's is there a particular card out there thats as good as the rest but maybe low points on its fan asembly that I can save money on ?

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well if you can wait 3 month then wait to see whats the 600's will be looking like.


Message edited by venur on 02-11-2012 at 03:50:54 AM
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rufus_22 wrote :

Im 3 months away from the gpu purchase as things look now so maybe that will play in my favor . Where I'm planning to wc the gpu's is there a particular card out there thats as good as the rest but maybe low points on its fan asembly that I can save money on ?


In three months there will be newer cards that offer a better value than 560ti and competing values of today but even as it will stand the 560 ti will still be a good card in three months just as good as it is today.


Message edited by Gamer Dude on 02-11-2012 at 04:07:26 AM
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In 3 months the 560ti will probably be a terrible purchase. You should plan on picking up a midrange option from either the Radeon 7xxx series or the GTX 6xx series.

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BigMack70 wrote :

In 3 months the 560ti will probably be a terrible purchase. You should plan on picking up a midrange option from either the Radeon 7xxx series or the GTX 6xx series.


Not the best choice in three months I agree but it will still be a good performing card in three months as it is today.

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Which is why I said it would be a terrible purchase, not a terrible card...

There's a difference.

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BigMack70 wrote :

Which is why I said it would be a terrible purchase, not a terrible card...

There's a difference.


Sorry but its just because people assume to much so I had to clarify 560ti = good card but not best value.

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ty for the input all . Good to know Ill have some options . The 560 ti's were my choice as they fit neatly in to the budget window for the component . So in a few months if theres a better unit at todays 560 price then it should be a no-brainer .

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rufus_22 wrote :

ty for the input all . Good to know Ill have some options . The 560 ti's were my choice as they fit neatly in to the budget window for the component . So in a few months if theres a better unit at todays 560 price then it should be a no-brainer .


Not that you are but even if you did buy a gtx 560ti today for around $200 it would still be a decent card down the road and not a stupid decision at all because remember the 560ti can overclock to almost the same speed of a reference GTX 570.

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Who knows.... when the 7870 comes out I can see a good price drop on these cards.

Reply to spentshells

I think you should wait for nvidia's Kepler cards to come out. maybe you could get the 660.

Reply to ihatehismap

wow I may save some bux . Perhaps a pair of overclocked 560 ti's on the w/c I'm planning would still be fairly competitive performers .

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spentshells wrote :

Who knows.... when the 7870 comes out I can see a good price drop on these cards.


Price drops on cards never have happened cause a new card comes out but more small price reductions over years never price slashes like what most people think it should be when new cards come out.GTX 580 at release was only $40 more than today so that's not a big savings over 1year +. Gtx 580 will not drop much in price from where it is at today all the way to when Nvidia calls it quits on the 580 end of line and this is how it will go for all cards. Typically the new cards are a bit cheaper upon there release then they jack the price up when the hype wheres off.

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Some quotes from the latest Kepler report (Nvidia's 600 series cards):

"First and foremost, in NVIDIA's internal nomenclature, this part should be named GeForce GTX 660 (the company is debating GeForce GTX 660, 670 or 680 - and the final verdict will 99% be GTX 680). This is a 349-399 dollar part which in conventional way would replace the 300-dollar "GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB", but will offer higher performance than GTX 580. Significantly higher… and more importantly, not just beating the $449 Radeon HD 7950 3GB, but also endangering the $549 Radeon HD 7970. Yeah, it is that fast."

"You won't need to wait for too long, as NVIDIA is already starting pre-sale activities, and getting ready to counter AMD and their momentum with the Radeon 7700 (Cape Verde, February 15), 7800 (Pitcairn, March 6) and 7900 Series (released)."
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matto17secs wrote :

Some quotes from the latest Kepler report (Nvidia's 600 series cards):

"First and foremost, in NVIDIA's internal nomenclature, this part should be named GeForce GTX 660 (the company is debating GeForce GTX 660, 670 or 680 - and the final verdict will 99% be GTX 680). This is a 349-399 dollar part which in conventional way would replace the 300-dollar "GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB", but will offer higher performance than GTX 580. Significantly higher… and more importantly, not just beating the $449 Radeon HD 7950 3GB, but also endangering the $549 Radeon HD 7970. Yeah, it is that fast."

"You won't need to wait for too long, as NVIDIA is already starting pre-sale activities, and getting ready to counter AMD and their momentum with the Radeon 7700 (Cape Verde, February 15), 7800 (Pitcairn, March 6) and 7900 Series (released)."
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/ne [...] k-out.aspx


Why listen to sales hype like it is the word of god. Hype is there fool you up into thinking it is more than the sum of it's parts and mark my words the GTX 680 or GTX 580 replacement will be the most expensive card on the market albeit a bit faster in Nvidia sponsored games and the same or a bit slower in all the rest as compared to 7970. Nvidia cards have always been priced higher what says they will change when history has proven you wrong over and over every single New card Nvidia has released.

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wow think I hit a nerve with this thread ? I like it though . keep it comming . I'm learning . ty

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Gamer Dude wrote :

Price drops on cards never have happened cause a new card comes out but more small price reductions over years never price slashes like what most people think it should be when new cards come out.GTX 580 at release was only $40 more than today so that's not a big savings over 1year +. Gtx 580 will not drop much in price from where it is at today all the way to when Nvidia calls it quits on the 580 end of line and this is how it will go for all cards. Typically the new cards are a bit cheaper upon there release then they jack the price up when the hype wheres off.



Actually they do. It happened with the 460 when the 6870 and 6850 came out
It also happened to the 5870 and 5850 when the 480 and 470 came out
it happened to the 6870 when the 560 came out. I honestly don't feel like providing more examples but I will
4890 dropped in price when the GTX275 was released. The 88/9800GTX was lowered when the 4870/50 were released. And it has been happening like that since I can remember. Mind you the top of the line cards only drop in price when production has completely stopped. Like the msi lightning 480GTX I saw it for 300 brand new on newegg.ca in March/April 2011 and Im still kicking myself.

Reply to spentshells

If u have a little extra, why not try getting an HD 6950. plus, from the reviews on tom's, Xfiring a 6950 is more viable than putting two 560 ti's in SLI.

 

If I were you, i'd wait for 7870 to come out. That's when I suppose 6950 would drop in price, coz a 7870 can outperform a 6950 I heard. So obviously, 6950 wud get cheaper, since it's older and is a weaker choice to a 7870.

 

It'd hardly be a two month wait.

 

And I am no veteran, but I know that some 6950s can be unlocked to 6970 by OCing. Google it up.


Message edited by gam0reily on 02-12-2012 at 09:19:35 PM
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spentshells wrote :

Actually they do. It happened with the 460 when the 6870 and 6850 came out
It also happened to the 5870 and 5850 when the 480 and 470 came out
it happened to the 6870 when the 560 came out. I honestly don't feel like providing more examples but I will
4890 dropped in price when the GTX275 was released. The 88/9800GTX was lowered when the 4870/50 were released. And it has been happening like that since I can remember. Mind you the top of the line cards only drop in price when production has completely stopped. Like the msi lightning 480GTX I saw it for 300 brand new on newegg.ca in March/April 2011 and Im still kicking myself.


Slight price drops are nothing to get excited about and it's not like for example the 4890HD dropped from $300 to $225 it dropped $10 or $20 no big deal like what people claim.

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The 460 went from 230 to 180 in under 2 months hardly a slight price drop.

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spentshells wrote :

The 460 went from 230 to 180 in under 2 months hardly a slight price drop.


LOL and it is still overpriced that's not a big drop when you can get a 6870 for $160 all day for the past like 6 months and 6850 which is the GTX 460 competition is $140 all day.

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Well I'll take any drop in price that I can get but " yah "when they unveil a new product with all the expectaions , boasts , fanfair and the overall implication that the new release antiquates its predecessor you would expect an equivalent drop in price . ty all for the feedback .

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Gamer Dude wrote :

LOL and it is still overpriced that's not a big drop when you can get a 6870 for $160 all day for the past like 6 months and 6850 which is the GTX 460 competition is $140 all day.



22 % cheaper is not good? an immediate drop of 1/5th of the price. Jesus I must be getting old.

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spentshells wrote :

22 % cheaper is not good? an immediate drop of 1/5th of the price. Jesus I must be getting old.


No I agree price dropping is always good for us as end users and consumers however a gtx 460 being case in point is now old by two whole and almost three whole generation and still only now is it drooped to almost the same price as it's competition that is newer and better being HD 6850. So as you can see price dropping is set up to benefit Nvidia and AMD far more than the end user and doesn't scale with new releases even remotely like it should.

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Gamer Dude wrote :

No I agree price dropping is always good for us as end users and consumers however a gtx 460 being case in point is now old by two whole and almost three whole generation and still only now is it drooped to almost the same price as it's competition that is newer and better being HD 6850. So as you can see price dropping is set up to benefit Nvidia and AMD far more than the end user and doesn't scale with new releases even remotely like it should.




i agree. A cheaper gtx 460 wud have seen AMD flipping lyk crazy, coz then 460 wud be the choice card for light to medium gamers. :sol:

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gam0reily wrote :

i agree. A cheaper gtx 460 wud have seen AMD flipping lyk crazy, coz then 460 wud be the choice card for light to medium gamers. :sol:


The GTX 460 was the Radeon HD 6850 of one year+ ago.

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